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VEEP Season 4: Selina Meyer is President, God help us all.

Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
edited April 2015 in Debate and/or Discourse
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Veep is a new HBO comedy directed by Armando Ianucci, who is best known for his British political satire The Thick of It and its movie version, In the Loop. Ianucci is known for writing fast-paced, incredibly vulgar but also whip-smart comedy, and Veep is no exception.

Veep is set in the political office of vice-president Selina Meyers (Julia Louis-Dreyfus, in the best post-Seinfeld show for any of its cast) and focuses on the absolute incompetence of people who work in Washington D.C. In many ways, it's like a mixture of The Office and Arrested Development with the sort of breakneck dialogue of Aaron Sorkin. It's also becoming infamous for having an absolutely gratuitous use of vulgarity (New Yorker counted 250 f-bombs in its first eight episodes).

I definitely enjoy the show a lot, way more than the other show it shares the timeslot with, Girls, and even though its characters are just as unlikable, the comedy is actually hilarious.

Characters:

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Selina Meyers

Intelligent vice-president who then shoots herself in the foot during a speech in the pilot. Running for the presidency in Season 3.

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Mike McClintock

Assistant to the Vice President and Director of Communications.

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Gary Walsh

Selina's personal aide, and also Buster.

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Amy Brookheimer

Chief of Staff, also starred in In The Loop.

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Dan Egan

A know-it-all and legend in DC, who likes to think he's smarter than the rest of the room but can also simultaneously be a huge fuckup.

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Jonah Ryan

From the White House, this complete dickhead loves to reiterate that he is, indeed, from the White House. Glad that it's intern season, still has not gotten any pussy.

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Sue Wilson

Selina's secretary, best known for crafting superbly sarcastic remarks and reminding her that no, the President did not call.


Anyway, the first episode is viewable online on Youtube. Why should you watch it? It's vulgar, it's quick humor, and it's Elaine dropping F-bombs everywhere. Isn't that what you always wanted since the subway scene in Seinfeld?

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WHAT THE FFFFFUCK, AMY?!

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular
    I am going to watch this show - it has my attention.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Oh, Buster.

  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    I very much enjoyed the first episode. Will continue.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    what is "incompetency"

    is it incompetence?

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    This is like a plodding version of The Thick of It. Is it the offcuts from the new series?

    The casting isn't fantastic either, particularly the lead. Dan and Amy are the exceptions to this. Maybe the rest will find their feet given some time?

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    I like it.

    I knew I liked it the second I saw the picture of the Veep giving the thumbs up sign in her office.

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Ugh. Screw you, HBO "Not available in your area"

    I should get a citizenship access code for when I'm overseas.

    Love The Thick of It and In the Loop, liked all the previews I've seen. Excited for the show.

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  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    I thought it was okay, but it did feel somewhat like The Thick of It Lite. Then again, that's what The Thick of It would probably have felt like without Malcolm Tucker - that guy really held the room together.

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Wasn't bad. I do hope it picks up from here, as shows tend to do.

    I'm just glad to have Buster back in my TV <3

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  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    For US viewers interested in The Thick of It: BBC America is showing the 3rd season starting this Saturday (April 28).

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  • The JudgeThe Judge The Terwilliger CurvesRegistered User regular
    Opening episode was okay, but not nearly as good as I expected. Hoping the second one strengthens things a bit.

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    This is like a plodding version of The Thick of It. Is it the offcuts from the new series?

    The casting isn't fantastic either, particularly the lead. Dan and Amy are the exceptions to this. Maybe the rest will find their feet given some time?

    Wha? JLD is fantastic.

  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    Haven't even heard of The Thick of It, but since I enjoyed this maybe I should check it out.

    Then again, I'm not really sure how much of my enjoying this show depended on the novelty of seeing Elaine be vulgar on TV, and I'm not sure how a show that leans on that novelty will hold up over time.

  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular
    I thought it was a really good season/show opener.

    I can totally get behind this, especially since there is plenty of room for the premise to take this to fun places.

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    Haven't even heard of The Thick of It, but since I enjoyed this maybe I should check it out.

    Then again, I'm not really sure how much of my enjoying this show depended on the novelty of seeing Elaine be vulgar on TV, and I'm not sure how a show that leans on that novelty will hold up over time.

    If you follow AVClub's TV reviews, they're pleased with where the show's going as they've seen the first three eps. So it's only up from here.

  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    That's so great for me!! ... and the country!!

  • ED!ED! Registered User regular
    I thought the first episode was ok. It's kind of weird being paired with GIRLS (which is getting retarded amounts of bad press, while its getting critical acclaim); really different shows tonally. I didn't hate it, but it wont be a part of immediate Sunday viewing.

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  • TalkaTalka Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Second episode wasn't much better than the first.

    Neither episode was bad. I'll keep watching. But I discovered The Thick of It a month ago and watched the whole series in a weekend, so I have both shows fresh in my mind. And Veep doesn't even come close to a single episode of The Thick of It.

    I'm just not sure the Vice President is as a role as ripe for comedy as the The Thick of It's ineffective minister.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    I know that the Communications guy was the Nazi trampoline dude on Community, but was he also a Secret Service agent on West Wing? Butterfield or whatever?

    IMDB says no. And he doesn't look anything like him. My brain is apparently crazy.

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    HBO greenlit another season. Sweet.

  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    I'm just not feeling it, but I'm enough of a political junkie to keep watching as long as it is sandwiched between Game of Thrones and the rerun of Game of Thrones.

  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Christ has risen.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I know that the Communications guy was the Nazi trampoline dude on Community, but was he also a Secret Service agent on West Wing? Butterfield or whatever?

    IMDB says no. And he doesn't look anything like him. My brain is apparently crazy.
    He's from Upright Citizen's Brigade.

  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    This is like a plodding version of The Thick of It. Is it the offcuts from the new series?

    The casting isn't fantastic either, particularly the lead. Dan and Amy are the exceptions to this. Maybe the rest will find their feet given some time?

    This is about how I feel. Except I'm even more lukewarm about the casting. And not just the casting, but the characters themselves. There just isn't anyone that stands out besides JLD, and that's only because I know her better than the rest. There's nobody who can hold a candle to the likes of Malcolm Tucker, that's for sure, and as much as I like JLD she ain't no Chris Langham, nor is she a Rebecca Front. Maybe I just have an easier time accepting those actors in that type of role.

    Anyway, without someone like Malcolm around to really drive the characters the show feels like an extremely wordy American sitcom. Like the plots and situations are more important than the characters themselves. Maybe it will get better. It wasn't bad, so I'll definitely keep watching.

    It did remind me that series 4 of The Thick of It is finally on the horizon.

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  • UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Kasyn Registered User regular
    Caught an episode of this show finally, really enjoyed it. It's very well-written. Sharp, quick, and quite funny.

  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    This show has a weird ramp to it. It's like, every episode is kind of blah for the first half and then becomes unbearably funny for the remainder. That's happened all three times so far. The "it isn't about me" scene in the room of giant pictures made me laugh so hard.

  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    I loved how much Selina overused the word "nuanced", to the point where it makes you wonder if she even knows what that word even means.

  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    I just figured out who Anna Chlumsky is.

    Also

    "He's got a brother in Rage Against the Machine"

    "That's an Acronym for National Aeronautic..."

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  • UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Kasyn Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    "I'm very excited about this filibuster reform bill. If you can get a Senate reform bill through the place it's designed to reform, that would be amazing. It would be like...persuading a guy to fist himself."

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    "He was really happy.. you know... talking about clean jobs and fisting men!"

  • HeisenbergHeisenberg Registered User regular
    Page- wrote: »
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    This is like a plodding version of The Thick of It. Is it the offcuts from the new series?

    The casting isn't fantastic either, particularly the lead. Dan and Amy are the exceptions to this. Maybe the rest will find their feet given some time?

    This is about how I feel. Except I'm even more lukewarm about the casting. And not just the casting, but the characters themselves. There just isn't anyone that stands out besides JLD, and that's only because I know her better than the rest. There's nobody who can hold a candle to the likes of Malcolm Tucker, that's for sure, and as much as I like JLD she ain't no Chris Langham, nor is she a Rebecca Front. Maybe I just have an easier time accepting those actors in that type of role.

    Anyway, without someone like Malcolm around to really drive the characters the show feels like an extremely wordy American sitcom. Like the plots and situations are more important than the characters themselves. Maybe it will get better. It wasn't bad, so I'll definitely keep watching.

    It did remind me that series 4 of The Thick of It is finally on the horizon.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q4o72jBZRY

    I absolutely fucking need to see all of The Thick of It but it doesn't seem to be available in the states at all.

  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    I was kind of meh about the first two episodes, but I really liked this third one. Maybe I'll start recording it instead of watching it on HBO Go when I remember I havent seen it.

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    Third episode was better than the last two. Good.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
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    Third episode was better than the last two. Good.

    "Dan, why don't you look after Catherine while we attend to this urgent policy matter?"
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    "Dan, you've never met Catherine have you? Catherine, this is Dan, he works in yo' momma's office!"
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    "So why don't you tell Dan about the.... umm... the.... ermmmm"
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    "Experimental theatre course?"
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    My favorite moment. Look at Dan's reaction, haha. I love this show.

    Sure it doesn't have the bite of The Thick of It, mainly because it doesn't have a Malcolm Tucker. But it's still great, and really funny. The thing that made TToI so good was that literally nothing the MPs did in that mattered. The entire Christmas special was two hours of blood and thunder with absolutely no change at the end. That's where the humor came from, because it was insignificant people doing insignificant things and being really worried about it.

    In America, you can't really approach it like that. Politicians in the US have far more personal power and prestige than in the UK, so it wouldn't work. That's why they had to go with the Vice President, because it is one of the least influential positions in the US government. They had to repeat that same feeling of insigificance, which is why Selina's almost catchphrase is 'Did the President call? No? No.' The humor in Veep comes from that, that feeling of complete incompetence and pointlessness. It totally works I think.

    There's certainly less anger than TToI, less swearing and less rage. But it also has a much better flow and a better ensemble cast. Jonah from the White House is another great character, who is sorta a hideous lovechild of Ben Swain and The Fucker.

  • HotandnerdyHotandnerdy Hot and Nerdy Kansas CityRegistered User regular
    Love this!! Totally achieved a spot in my DVR!

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    Sometimes you have to go DOWN to go UP.

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    I think they could really step this up if they moved from having the Veep as the main character and use her as more of a background.

    Dan and Amy are rock solid, Buster is Buster and the rest of the staff have found their place. The lead still isn't working for me at all though.

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