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NEW PS3 owners' answer thread
CZroe
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The last thread got a little out of control. It was supposed to be a place for owners to ask and answer inevitable questions* other new owners and potential owners will have and for any curious person with a question that only an owner can answer. The whole "impression" thing was to document the unexpected problems and positive aspects that aren't generally known to someone without direct experience. I think I was quite thorough documenting just that in my first post, though much of it is outdated. I would never have had those questions until after I took the plunge and bought one, though they are very relevant to any buyer about to spend $600.
Just so I don't have to recount it all... HERE.
*That'd be, tiny little "not even thread worthy on their own" questions with no other place to go (no chat thread).
Anyway, I'm gonna stay out of this for a few weeks because I have finals, but I thought I'd go ahead and get it started... on the right foot this time.
My response to Megathread-Phobia:
Hmm, I see what you mean in the last few pages...
Maybe DietarySuppliment and DewtheKingAJD missed the megathread memo? That said, the elimination of megathreads was supposed to put things exactly where they are on other forums that never had them in the first place... It was not to make something new for mods to police and enforce. The problem was that all conversations and topics were being forced into one hard to navigate and usually hostile thread. The benefit was that you could have casual conversation about the topic that would not be thread-worthy otherwise. The act was not supposed to end this conversation, but rather it was supposed to send it into other threads. Instead, because forumers believe that casually relevant conversation will be perceived as "megathread activity which is BAD," I see a HUGE effort by forumers to "stay on topic" (see all of Threepio's posts in PS3 threads DESPERATELY trying to stay on-topic). This is exactly opposite of the intentions when removing the megathreads. Think about it:
Threads are conversations. There is NO chat thread. There either needs to be, or people should be able to bring up any logically related topic they want in a conversation. Otherwise, these questions and their answers have been effectively silenced.
So how are the mods going to get the right message across to the forum members? How about FIRST not policing the threads to weed out megathreads. It's not a megathread unless people are forced to post in it instead of making a new thread. No one was forced to post in the PS3 owner's impression thread. No new threads were criticized for not being taken to the PS3 impressions thread. The forumers leery about creating other threads were wary because of the negativity in the forum toward the PS3. This is a different problem that needs to be dealt with differently. Sorry, I have no suggestions for that.
Edit: I shouldn't have to say it, but DON'T DISCUSS IT HERE. It's posted as an example of what NOT to do. It's not "casually related" to PS3 owner stuff at all.
Just so I don't have to recount it all... HERE.
*That'd be, tiny little "not even thread worthy on their own" questions with no other place to go (no chat thread).
Anyway, I'm gonna stay out of this for a few weeks because I have finals, but I thought I'd go ahead and get it started... on the right foot this time.
My response to Megathread-Phobia:
Captain K wrote:
Hmm, I see what you mean in the last few pages...
DewtheKingAJD wrote:DietarySupplement wrote:I know Motorstorm drops either today or tomorrow (I think?) How do you guys want to handle some on-line racing action? New thread, or keep it here?
I'd say we should keep the discussion on MotorStorm in this thread, easier and I doubt that many people will be playing it on this board.
Unco-ordinated wrote:I was going to make a Heavenly Sword thread for this but it'd end up being filled up with "omg ps3 sux m i rite" crap. But here's some brand new HD footage of the game. I'm still downloading it so I'll edit my opinion in when it's finished.
Maybe DietarySuppliment and DewtheKingAJD missed the megathread memo? That said, the elimination of megathreads was supposed to put things exactly where they are on other forums that never had them in the first place... It was not to make something new for mods to police and enforce. The problem was that all conversations and topics were being forced into one hard to navigate and usually hostile thread. The benefit was that you could have casual conversation about the topic that would not be thread-worthy otherwise. The act was not supposed to end this conversation, but rather it was supposed to send it into other threads. Instead, because forumers believe that casually relevant conversation will be perceived as "megathread activity which is BAD," I see a HUGE effort by forumers to "stay on topic" (see all of Threepio's posts in PS3 threads DESPERATELY trying to stay on-topic). This is exactly opposite of the intentions when removing the megathreads. Think about it:
If not a thread full of PS3 owners, who else do you ask that question? He did the right thing by going to the PS3 owners thread. Ironically, I don't own a single PS3 game but even the fact that I am playing PS2 games on my PS3 is useful information regarding the console from an owner's perspective!DewtheKingAJD wrote:Just curious to see what the PS3 owners are playing atm, since I do not want to start a new thread simply about that.
Threads are conversations. There is NO chat thread. There either needs to be, or people should be able to bring up any logically related topic they want in a conversation. Otherwise, these questions and their answers have been effectively silenced.
So how are the mods going to get the right message across to the forum members? How about FIRST not policing the threads to weed out megathreads. It's not a megathread unless people are forced to post in it instead of making a new thread. No one was forced to post in the PS3 owner's impression thread. No new threads were criticized for not being taken to the PS3 impressions thread. The forumers leery about creating other threads were wary because of the negativity in the forum toward the PS3. This is a different problem that needs to be dealt with differently. Sorry, I have no suggestions for that.
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Yes, I am aware that I am pulling the "if I can't have it, no one can," card, but I'm immature like that.
But by creating ANOTHER one?
This will defnitely turn into a megathread.
I'M A TWITTER SHITTER
It's not a megathread unless people are forced to post in it. You could have made any PS3 thread you wanted. Just because seeing "Page 20" and some conversation happening fires that same neuron (it should) doesn't mean that it's a megathread... it means the conversation and participation went someplace else. THAT is what they wanted to happen when they ended the megathreads. Also, like I was saying, long threads and casually related conversations are not what the elimination of megathreads was supposed to rid us of.
I'm just saying, you aren't helping your case much by getting all pissy when people get along without a megathread.
Point made.
So true. But wait.... isn't THIS a megathread?
Thats really dumb. I mean come on guy....it was a megathread. There is no two ways about it. No one was forced to post in the 360 thread, so therefore it wasn't a megathread? Are you retarded?
YES THEY WERE. The forum would have a fit as soon as another 360-related thread would pop up and they would be directly pointed to the all-encompassing megathread. That's ALWAYS been the case with every kind of thread. It's just like when someone links to another thread discussing the same topic and locks the second one to avoid redundant conversation. When there's a megathread related to your console, EVERYTHING was redundant. It rolled up everything. That was the purpose of the thread before people realized that "perhaps it's a good thing to have many active topics in a forum?" People once thought it kept things cleaner and less chaotic.
Oh, and major edit above.
No. it has a topic. The topic is "PS3 owners." It's a pretty exclusive topic...
...er, that is, it excludes alot of people/topics while providing at least ONE thread where someone can ask a PS3 owner a random question.
If you're worried about creating PS3 threads because you don't want them to be trolled... well, go ahead and create them, and if they get trolled, PM me and the trolling will stop.
Hm...well there is only one problem with your post. Its flat out wrong.
That would be a megathread. Besides, I don't have the time to maintain that (finals) but I will have time to answer a few questions. I don't have any questions myself at the moment, but, as a new owner, I damn sure did and the last thread generated answers to every single one of them. I'm just trying to get ANY kind of PS3 topic back in the forum. Seriously, when I bought my PS3 in January, I couldn't find "Playstation" or "PS3" in the first FIVE pages in G&T.
That said, I see that it's impossible to pre-emptively set up a thread for any sub-topic without it being a megathread or prompting this conversation... unless it's a "X Game DS comes out tomorow! Hi-Scores start now!" thread. May as well lock this one too.
Thanks anyway Captain K.
The PS3 supports SACD's.
When I tried to play an SACD the PS3 told me to remove my optical cable and use something else. Does SACD not support optical for sound?
Both SACD and DVD-Audio formats require you to use an analog-out when you play them, send them to an amp, etc. This is for copy protection, otherwise people could intercept the full-quality decrypted digital signal. Optical is a digital connection for audio, so... there you go.
I read the manual. I had no idea. I must have missed it. I thank you sir. I owe you. Paypal?
Thanks.
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1) I have heard that I can use the cheap Sony PS2 cables with the PS3 and this works great. Is this true?
2) What kind of graphical improvements can I expect using component cables over the standard cables on both my standard def tv and my parents HDTV?
VAST. One issue I encountered immediately when switching between different televisions was that the PS3 may be booting in a mode the SDTV doesn't support... I'll get back to you with the fix I got.
you'll get an actually HD signal with component on your parents TV. HUGE difference
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Here is a question I have been curious about, I am currently running HDMI for my video output, but didn't want to mess with my system to get the audio out of it as it is directly into my TV. I am using Optical for my audio currently, but does anyone on here run HDMI sound and if so, is it THAT much better than Optical?
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FB, I simply do 192 bitrate on MP3 format, which I feel is the best combination for space and quality. I know people choose 160 to others, but my personal preference on everything I rip to, is 192.
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I think that's what I have been using. Space really isn't any issue right now... I just want to go for the best quality. It sound great so far... I just thought there was a better format to use.
(If I'm not mistaken, most PA forum members are adults. If that's true, saying "your parents' TV" is a bit condescending.)
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Here it is. From the last thread:
Many adults visit their parents every day.
It was actually in context. His parents own the HDTV.
It's digital SPDIF, so the audio is identical whether you are using optical, coax, or HDMI. It is more convenient to use a single HDMI cable for both audio and video if you are going directly to the television with no audio system, or if you have an AV receiver that takes HDMI. You only want to use HDMI+optical if you have a seperate audio receiver that takes optical and does not pass-thru HDMI to the TV.
It should be very simple to go into the PS3's settings and set it so that audio goes through the HDMI cable.
I believe you can use the HDMI cable for this. I did some research yesterday, apparently, since it's HDCP-compliant, it should work fine. I'll sit down and tinker late next week to answer this.
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