ITP Jax does real work, takes damage in face all game
so once again a bad like @BillGates can get another penta
Damnit stop feeding Bill pentas, his ego doesn't need to swell any more!
The real problem is that he bitches all game long and for an hour afterwards if the jungler doesn't camp the shit out of bot lane when he's the AD carry whenever he vaguely feels like he's losing
I should really just start ignoring his lane out of spite
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ITP Jax does real work, takes damage in face all game
so once again a bad like @BillGates can get another penta
Damnit stop feeding Bill pentas, his ego doesn't need to swell any more!
The real problem is that he bitches all game long and for an hour afterwards if the jungler doesn't camp the shit out of bot lane when he's the AD carry whenever he vaguely feels like he's losing
I should really just start ignoring his lane out of spite
Was he the really whiny-shouty guy in Delph's stream?
Nonono, don't dodge those games and don't rely on the meta to tell you what is good and what is not good. The meta is only truly optimal at high levels of play - at low elos, and especially pre-30, the meta means pretty much nothing and any combination of characters can be good.
You're hurting yourself by not playing those games.
No, I'm hurting myself when I play on a team with a bunch of idiots playing whatever bad matchups against people respecting the meta and dominating our lanes. Blind pick is fine for that stuff, but to me, draft is there for people who want to play to the meta. I don't really dodge a bunch of games, I try to stick it out, but it's such a waste of time when people are so awful. Master yi bottom lane solo against a standard bot lane? Yeah, that's going to work out well.
What you're describing has nothing to do with meta and everything to do with people not understanding lane-matchups properly. Why not send a ranged carry top? I mean, if you do their melee top won't be getting any cs for the first 10 minutes. Why is that, and why isn't this done more?
Wouldn't most melee tops just feast on tasty carry instead?
Not by default, no. A lot of bruisers are weak pre-4 or pre-6 and are very vulnerable to ranged harass. It does not to apply to every match-up, but at least in theory a lot of bruisers can be zoned completely out of farm by a ranged character early, simply because they can't afford to be constantly aaed while trying to farm. This is also a part of why Nidalee works top.
Yeah, they would. It sounds like the range would be an advantage, but a couple auto attacks from an AD carry with no items is nothing compared to an udyr tiger proc, an olaf true damage smack, and don't even get started on somebody like Riven. The top could just keep the ranged from getting much CS at all unless they wanted to trade, and that would end in the ranged being dead quick.
How would Udyr or Olaf even get close? The AD carries you'd send top have escapes. It's not a matter of trading, either. Udyr and Olaf would be constantly attacked every time they go for a creep and if they try to close to trade, they'll eat a ton more attacks in the face. No strong gap-closer=range can potentially dominate you. Harass>sustain, btw, as long as it's applied constantly. Udyr can probably weather it with Turtle-farming, but Olaf's natural sustain pushes the lane and brings him into range for more harass.
Why did you pick someone squishy into Riven? Because it's match-up dependant, you don't first-pick ranged top. Ever. Unless you can get your jungler to camp the lane, you don't pick someone who can be dominated early into her.
Nonono, don't dodge those games and don't rely on the meta to tell you what is good and what is not good. The meta is only truly optimal at high levels of play - at low elos, and especially pre-30, the meta means pretty much nothing and any combination of characters can be good.
You're hurting yourself by not playing those games.
No, I'm hurting myself when I play on a team with a bunch of idiots playing whatever bad matchups against people respecting the meta and dominating our lanes. Blind pick is fine for that stuff, but to me, draft is there for people who want to play to the meta. I don't really dodge a bunch of games, I try to stick it out, but it's such a waste of time when people are so awful. Master yi bottom lane solo against a standard bot lane? Yeah, that's going to work out well.
What you're describing has nothing to do with meta and everything to do with people not understanding lane-matchups properly. Why not send a ranged carry top? I mean, if you do their melee top won't be getting any cs for the first 10 minutes. Why is that, and why isn't this done more?
If this is a serious question:
A Serious Answer
Ranged Carry top is not inherently bad but there are a couple of things that make it generally weaker than the standard top. And to understand that lets talk a bit about the lane.
First of all we understand that top is going to be the solo lane because you want to duo closer to dragon. This gives you the mid/late game gold advantage if you can hold it. Essentially if you send a solo lane bottom and they send a duo lane bottom their duo lane is more likely to be able to hold dragon effectively. By the time baron is on the table, most games are beyond laning anyway, so double lane top doesn't make a lot of sense.
The second thing to understand about top is that its a long lane(like bottom). Because its a long lane its easier to gank and more importantly for this understanding, easier to bully. If you bully mid lane the enemy mid is still very close to his tower [and relative saftey]. If you can successfully bully top, he has a lot longer to go to saftey, increasing the likelihood of dying and decreasing his ability to get creeps.
So why do we see bruisers top rather than ranged carries? A: Because ranged carries tend to be a lot weaker than bruisers in terms of base stats. E.G. Corki: 457 HP, 51 AD at level 1. Lee Sin 518 HP, 59 AD at level 1. Lee Sin has a dash and can pressure Corki out of the lane simply by having more armor/hp/move speed etc. This isn't true all the time but it is generally true. If Corki gets two AA's off before Lee Sin closes the distance Lee Sin probably still wins that fight due to higher HP/Armor/AD.
The simplest way to say it is that ranged carries have a hard time winning solo lanes against traditional bruisers whereas they have less problems if they have a support[because you can run interference and coordinate fire and other stuff which reduces the advantage in base stats that the bruiser has] and since you cannot as effectively run a duo lane top due to losing dragon control solo top tends to be bruisers.
Now, there are exceptions to this rule and nothing is set in stone. The most obvious example is Teemo, who has strong defense, harass, and his blind and so makes a good counter pick top. As well as sometimes Corki/Ezreal who both have strong escapes and can work against certain bruisers.
A rhetorical, serious question. Thank you for a good answer. The reason I'm bringing it up in the first place was someone sending a Vayne against Shen top in the 4PL tournament yesterday. By the ten minute mark, the Shen had around 20 minions. (The same team also ran double jungle Blitz/Riven and bot Cho Gath. Who was doing considerably better against Corki/Taric than the Shen was top.) Though a part of it was definitely the Shen having no idea what to make of the Vayne suddenly in his top lane.
My point is mostly that what's good/bad works/doesn't isn't set in stone. There's no huge lexicon of things that are right/wrong to do in LoL. And the best way to figure things out is to try them. Likewise, the only way to learn what doesn't really work is to try them. (But seriously, don't send Nidalee against Riven unless you really like facing a fed Riven.)
In other news, urgot top is hilarious against champs without inherent sustain. Sorry wukong, I am just going to poke you to death. Whats that rammus? You are going to dive me under my tower when you come to gank? I think I will just suppress, swap you and get the double kill.
Hearing rumours from the PBE that Darius is a pentakill machine
Which makes sense for somebody with a refreshable true damage ult with a potential 1.5 AD ratio, I guess
He looks downright terrifying if you can't CC him or zone him. That's a kit with a ton of synergy and no actual holes in it except that he's got very little range.
When you say you were playing him as a tank how do you mean? Support into tanky items later, or jungling into tanky items? Because if you were playing in lane as a tank going for CS, that's probably why the guy was being a douche. Also, be ready for many bad player experiences, because most people playing this game are righteous geese of the highest order.
I was in lane going for tanky items. I tried to jungle but so far I've had exactly one game where everyone didn't start crying 'get in your lane!' as soon as I started jungling.
I tried another game last night and just went jungle and ignored everyone/ganked. I had less deaths since I wasn't sitting in a lane. Worked out really well. I'm starting to like Alistar quite a bit. The first few times I played him I went AP build and hated it. The last several I've tried using him as a support tank and it has worked really well for my playstyle.
ITP Jax does real work, takes damage in face all game
so once again a bad like @BillGates can get another penta
Damnit stop feeding Bill pentas, his ego doesn't need to swell any more!
The real problem is that he bitches all game long and for an hour afterwards if the jungler doesn't camp the shit out of bot lane when he's the AD carry whenever he vaguely feels like he's losing
I should really just start ignoring his lane out of spite
Was he the really whiny-shouty guy in Delph's stream?
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When you say you were playing him as a tank how do you mean? Support into tanky items later, or jungling into tanky items? Because if you were playing in lane as a tank going for CS, that's probably why the guy was being a douche. Also, be ready for many bad player experiences, because most people playing this game are righteous geese of the highest order.
I was in lane going for tanky items. I tried to jungle but so far I've had exactly one game where everyone didn't start crying 'get in your lane!' as soon as I started jungling.
I tried another game last night and just went jungle and ignored everyone/ganked. I had less deaths since I wasn't sitting in a lane. Worked out really well. I'm starting to like Alistar quite a bit. The first few times I played him I went AP build and hated it. The last several I've tried using him as a support tank and it has worked really well for my playstyle.
Honestly, if you like Alistar, go to solomid.net and read Xspecial's guide on supporting with him, and there's a good featured guide on jungling with him too. If you're going to jungle, it's a decision you have to make before the game starts, and there's a lot more to it than just running around the jungle killing stuff too. And if you're support, your job is to go 0 cs and protect your AD carry while he farms. This is all talking about playing in the meta, so isn't really important until higher level and draft games, but those are really the most fun ways to play Alistar anyway IMO. You get to build him tanky in both those roles, and he's a magnificent team fight initiator too, so he transitions well into late game.
So, just theory crafting a Darius build.... Merc/Warmog/Atma/Maw/Thirster/Whisper (for giggles since you have 10% in talents 25% in skill passive and then 40% off the item). Only comes out to 15000 gold as well. Effective 8200 Health, Q will hit for 700 AoE for the outer part, and W will hit for 800. R...if these numbers are right will hit for 550, and then the Hemo stacks on Leaguecraft have to be bugged but say (680) +432. Doesn't matter if that's true damage, one move is doing 1500 damage, so that can't be right, can it?
his ratios are through the roof, according to lol-wiki
edit: his passive has a 0.4 bonus AD ratio and applies on all autoattacks and Q/W/R
so his Q, which is 0.7 on the inner radius and 1.05 on the outer radius
his W scales with points in it from 1.2 up to 2.0 total attack damage
R is .75 to 1.5 bonus attack damage as true damage based on how many stacks of the passive are on them
Are there any other passives that give an extra AD ratio to auto-attacks? Because that seems pretty crazy to me.
Hey, buy a Bloodthirster, Darius. We'll give you an additional 40% AD on it for free.
riven gets 0.5 bonus AD on every autoattack if she is using her skills properly
hers is even crazier because it just adds the damage to her singular damage packet so she can get things like extra lifesteal and tiamat splash
and her ult gives her 20% more attack damage, so that gets even sillier
edit: i tried doing the math and i THINK riven gets 80% more benefit from lifesteal than other characters while she's ulting, on her bonus attack damage, and 20% more benefit from lifesteal on her base attack damage
Totally forgot about Riven, I haven't seen her at all since her last skin got released. Also worth noting that Riven just does physical damage, but Darius apparently does a mix of physical, magical and true.
So for unrelated reasons I'm planning on only running six Warmog's Cho in top lane next week
OK those numbers look right then. I just wonder how bad he'd get hit with the nerf bat. Being that tanky and being able to take out someone in one rotation of skills is going to cause a mountain of complaints.
He'll cause complaints, but I think he'll be nothing but noob bait after a week or so. Him and katarina, dominating the lower bracket.
why are you lumping those two together
Well, I was talking with Varega, and he says Darius is a Garen with no sustain, and so won't be able to farm enough to be a major threat. That might be the train of thought zerg is going on as well, but I don't think he's as bad as Kat.
Darius can trade while out of range of many tops with his Q, so I wouldn't jump the gun honestly. It'll depend on matchup as usual, but AD casters can dominate certain tops for sure and I doubt he'll be different. Plus, I foresee him being played as a talon style mid against some mids.
Darius can trade while out of range of many tops with his Q, so I wouldn't jump the gun honestly. It'll depend on matchup as usual, but AD casters can dominate certain tops for sure and I doubt he'll be different. Plus, I foresee him being played as a talon style mid against some mids.
Yeah I figure if nothing else he gets pushed almost to his tower where he should be fairly safe, auto attack as many creeps as he can and then pop his AoE and kill a good chunk of the wave to get some farm.
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He'll cause complaints, but I think he'll be nothing but noob bait after a week or so. Him and katarina, dominating the lower bracket.
why are you lumping those two together
Assuming riot has balanced them the way they've stated, Darius' primary weakness is that he has nothing extra to his kit. He's big, strong, and hits things hard but super susceptible to kiting and CC. He has no innate tankiness, or sustain, or gap closing, etc.. This lets them amp up the damage, while keeping him from being overpowered.
Low elo matches are really bad at target priority and CC. They're also bad at trying to fight when they should either kite or run. This is why Kat is good in low ELO. Trynd/Jax/Yi/etc. Anybody you can't right click on and hope to win against are disproportionately more powerful. Darius is going to be one of those dudes.
There totally needs to be a Pentakill Darius skin, IMO.
Don't you dare make me buy a skin bundle! If I have to buy a skin bundle, I will hold you personally responsible and I will track you down. And then one day, in the far future, you'll have some white-haired hobo walk up to you, slap a beer in your hand then walk away while cackling madly! If they release Darius with a Pentakill bundle, THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU!
But I think it's more likely that he'll get a Crimson Elite skill.
I just had the most hilarious game as Udyr jungle. Our top lane was Singed(us) v Pantheon. It was pretty even through laning. Our mid was Ryze(us) v Brand, but the Ryze didn't know about Brand and was a lower summoner level versus a 30 Brand, and was not ready. He fed about 8 kills very quickly. Our bot was Ashe/Soraka(us) v Riven/Nautilus(the Riven was lower level and bad), and the jungle was Udyr(me) v Olaf. I had plenty of early success with ganks, but didn't create a lot of kills, and died once to my teammates not following up well. Anyway, by mid game our bot and mid lost their lanes, but the other team didn't capitalize on it, so now we're transitioning into team fighting with a fed brand and our Ashe getting fairly fed, but without much hope.
Queue the end of the 60 minute battle, where I had Banshee's veil, Force of Nature, and Maw of Malmortius so Brand couldn't burn me, our Singed had 6k HP, our Ashe was fully item fed, and it was on. We ended up winning after my team realized if they just killed Brand/Riven/Olaf(more fed than Riven) during my Bear stun madness, we'd win team fights, and that's exactly what we did and ended up with the win.
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So, Udyr is great. I've been the only person who will jungle in a bunch of games lately, and I must say this dude is one versatile mofo. Great clear speed, ganks are good with bear move speed plus the stun, and late game he's pretty solid in team fights just running around stunning carries and what not.
Been taking urgot top lately against some of the more standard bruisers. Unless the other bruiser has a lot of sustain, I can harass them out lane and CS pretty well. Also, since I build Urgot so tanky, he fits the role of AD bruiser pretty well.
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Darius can trade while out of range of many tops with his Q, so I wouldn't jump the gun honestly. It'll depend on matchup as usual, but AD casters can dominate certain tops for sure and I doubt he'll be different. Plus, I foresee him being played as a talon style mid against some mids.
So, Udyr is great. I've been the only person who will jungle in a bunch of games lately, and I must say this dude is one versatile mofo. Great clear speed, ganks are good with bear move speed plus the stun, and late game he's pretty solid in team fights just running around stunning carries and what not.
Double quote because I'm foreseeing Lane Darius working out like Lane Udyr: you out-harrass by sticking DoTs on people whenever they get near the creeps, wear them down, and then go in for the kill on a half-health Nasus / Olaf / some other joker when your jungler's around. I also see him having real trouble with the Rivens and Udyrs of the world shielding his bleed into ineffectiveness. He might also be well served by having a Philostone, since you're getting a bunch of free damage up front and a Shurelya's seems potentially useful on a guy who's got a short-range pull. We'll see.
Also, seriously, if you're enjoying jungle Udyr, try lane Udyr. Main turtle, tiger second, and just make them bleed when they try to farm then go back to being infinitely tough. I'm having a jolly time building him full of on-hit proc items and watching ignorant top players build armor lately. It may get me back to 1400. Ionic Spark is especially funny: you're always in Phoenix even if you didn't level it after you buy one.
When you say you were playing him as a tank how do you mean? Support into tanky items later, or jungling into tanky items? Because if you were playing in lane as a tank going for CS, that's probably why the guy was being a douche. Also, be ready for many bad player experiences, because most people playing this game are righteous geese of the highest order.
I was in lane going for tanky items. I tried to jungle but so far I've had exactly one game where everyone didn't start crying 'get in your lane!' as soon as I started jungling.
I tried another game last night and just went jungle and ignored everyone/ganked. I had less deaths since I wasn't sitting in a lane. Worked out really well. I'm starting to like Alistar quite a bit. The first few times I played him I went AP build and hated it. The last several I've tried using him as a support tank and it has worked really well for my playstyle.
Honestly, if you like Alistar, go to solomid.net and read Xspecial's guide on supporting with him, and there's a good featured guide on jungling with him too. If you're going to jungle, it's a decision you have to make before the game starts, and there's a lot more to it than just running around the jungle killing stuff too. And if you're support, your job is to go 0 cs and protect your AD carry while he farms. This is all talking about playing in the meta, so isn't really important until higher level and draft games, but those are really the most fun ways to play Alistar anyway IMO. You get to build him tanky in both those roles, and he's a magnificent team fight initiator too, so he transitions well into late game.
I was in a game where my team had a jungle Alistar. This guy did NOTHING, not even gank and he went mobility boots and went AP.
Jungle Alistar is amazing or worthless, depending on if the guy knows what he's doing. If you wolves->blue, you're level 2 while the mids are still level 1, and unless the other team's mid is hugging tower, you're either going to kill him or force him to flash right off the bat. Or, if their top/bot(depending on which side your blue is on) is overextended right off the bat which they sometimes will, not afraid of ganks so quickly, you can get an easy kill on one of those lanes. It's not unusual for me to get my mid and top/bot a kill before I'm level 3. Then after that, you still just do well the whole game. As long as laning is going on, the other team has to be worried that your boots of mobility having ass is coming in for a headbutt->pulverize, and you are dead.
Plus, he transitions terrific into late game to become a good iniator/CC during team fights, and all you need is his ult to survive team fights, so the tanky items on top are just icing. He has a fairly slow clear early, but since you only need level 2 for successful ganks it's not a big deal. And he only needs the first blue, so he doesn't really have any super weakness as a jungler.
If I had my way, I'd rather have a really good support Alistar with a jungler like Udyr to have both of their CCs for team fights, but depending on who the enemy mid is and your own team comp, Ali is one of my favorite junglers for sure.
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I should really just start ignoring his lane out of spite
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Not by default, no. A lot of bruisers are weak pre-4 or pre-6 and are very vulnerable to ranged harass. It does not to apply to every match-up, but at least in theory a lot of bruisers can be zoned completely out of farm by a ranged character early, simply because they can't afford to be constantly aaed while trying to farm. This is also a part of why Nidalee works top.
How would Udyr or Olaf even get close? The AD carries you'd send top have escapes. It's not a matter of trading, either. Udyr and Olaf would be constantly attacked every time they go for a creep and if they try to close to trade, they'll eat a ton more attacks in the face. No strong gap-closer=range can potentially dominate you. Harass>sustain, btw, as long as it's applied constantly. Udyr can probably weather it with Turtle-farming, but Olaf's natural sustain pushes the lane and brings him into range for more harass.
Why did you pick someone squishy into Riven? Because it's match-up dependant, you don't first-pick ranged top. Ever. Unless you can get your jungler to camp the lane, you don't pick someone who can be dominated early into her.
A rhetorical, serious question. Thank you for a good answer. The reason I'm bringing it up in the first place was someone sending a Vayne against Shen top in the 4PL tournament yesterday. By the ten minute mark, the Shen had around 20 minions. (The same team also ran double jungle Blitz/Riven and bot Cho Gath. Who was doing considerably better against Corki/Taric than the Shen was top.) Though a part of it was definitely the Shen having no idea what to make of the Vayne suddenly in his top lane.
My point is mostly that what's good/bad works/doesn't isn't set in stone. There's no huge lexicon of things that are right/wrong to do in LoL. And the best way to figure things out is to try them. Likewise, the only way to learn what doesn't really work is to try them. (But seriously, don't send Nidalee against Riven unless you really like facing a fed Riven.)
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In other news, urgot top is hilarious against champs without inherent sustain. Sorry wukong, I am just going to poke you to death. Whats that rammus? You are going to dive me under my tower when you come to gank? I think I will just suppress, swap you and get the double kill.
Which makes sense for somebody with a refreshable true damage ult with a potential 1.5 AD ratio, I guess
He looks downright terrifying if you can't CC him or zone him. That's a kit with a ton of synergy and no actual holes in it except that he's got very little range.
I was in lane going for tanky items. I tried to jungle but so far I've had exactly one game where everyone didn't start crying 'get in your lane!' as soon as I started jungling.
I tried another game last night and just went jungle and ignored everyone/ganked. I had less deaths since I wasn't sitting in a lane. Worked out really well. I'm starting to like Alistar quite a bit. The first few times I played him I went AP build and hated it. The last several I've tried using him as a support tank and it has worked really well for my playstyle.
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Honestly, if you like Alistar, go to solomid.net and read Xspecial's guide on supporting with him, and there's a good featured guide on jungling with him too. If you're going to jungle, it's a decision you have to make before the game starts, and there's a lot more to it than just running around the jungle killing stuff too. And if you're support, your job is to go 0 cs and protect your AD carry while he farms. This is all talking about playing in the meta, so isn't really important until higher level and draft games, but those are really the most fun ways to play Alistar anyway IMO. You get to build him tanky in both those roles, and he's a magnificent team fight initiator too, so he transitions well into late game.
edit: his passive has a 0.4 bonus AD ratio and applies on all autoattacks and Q/W/R
so his Q, which is 0.7 on the inner radius and 1.05 on the outer radius
his W scales with points in it from 1.2 up to 2.0 total attack damage
R is .75 to 1.5 bonus attack damage as true damage based on how many stacks of the passive are on them
Hey, buy a Bloodthirster, Darius. We'll give you an additional 40% AD on it for free.
riven gets 0.5 bonus AD on every autoattack if she is using her skills properly
hers is even crazier because it just adds the damage to her singular damage packet so she can get things like extra lifesteal and tiamat splash
and her ult gives her 20% more attack damage, so that gets even sillier
edit: i tried doing the math and i THINK riven gets 80% more benefit from lifesteal than other characters while she's ulting, on her bonus attack damage, and 20% more benefit from lifesteal on her base attack damage
So for unrelated reasons I'm planning on only running six Warmog's Cho in top lane next week
why are you lumping those two together
Well, I was talking with Varega, and he says Darius is a Garen with no sustain, and so won't be able to farm enough to be a major threat. That might be the train of thought zerg is going on as well, but I don't think he's as bad as Kat.
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Yeah I figure if nothing else he gets pushed almost to his tower where he should be fairly safe, auto attack as many creeps as he can and then pop his AoE and kill a good chunk of the wave to get some farm.
I think I might get one more week out of D3, then I'll be back to LOL full time. Grinding for items can get a bit tedious.
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Assuming riot has balanced them the way they've stated, Darius' primary weakness is that he has nothing extra to his kit. He's big, strong, and hits things hard but super susceptible to kiting and CC. He has no innate tankiness, or sustain, or gap closing, etc.. This lets them amp up the damage, while keeping him from being overpowered.
Low elo matches are really bad at target priority and CC. They're also bad at trying to fight when they should either kite or run. This is why Kat is good in low ELO. Trynd/Jax/Yi/etc. Anybody you can't right click on and hope to win against are disproportionately more powerful. Darius is going to be one of those dudes.
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But I think it's more likely that he'll get a Crimson Elite skill.
Queue the end of the 60 minute battle, where I had Banshee's veil, Force of Nature, and Maw of Malmortius so Brand couldn't burn me, our Singed had 6k HP, our Ashe was fully item fed, and it was on. We ended up winning after my team realized if they just killed Brand/Riven/Olaf(more fed than Riven) during my Bear stun madness, we'd win team fights, and that's exactly what we did and ended up with the win.
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Also, we're a great community. I'm sure we can spare a few good plays here and there to help this channel out. Lots of amazing plays already, and I think we can give him some much needed help in getting a great idea off the ground.
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Also, Abby is awesome. Keep up with TLH because it's the tits!
I love League of Legends, but seriously...screw you, Teemo.
Double quote because I'm foreseeing Lane Darius working out like Lane Udyr: you out-harrass by sticking DoTs on people whenever they get near the creeps, wear them down, and then go in for the kill on a half-health Nasus / Olaf / some other joker when your jungler's around. I also see him having real trouble with the Rivens and Udyrs of the world shielding his bleed into ineffectiveness. He might also be well served by having a Philostone, since you're getting a bunch of free damage up front and a Shurelya's seems potentially useful on a guy who's got a short-range pull. We'll see.
Also, seriously, if you're enjoying jungle Udyr, try lane Udyr. Main turtle, tiger second, and just make them bleed when they try to farm then go back to being infinitely tough. I'm having a jolly time building him full of on-hit proc items and watching ignorant top players build armor lately. It may get me back to 1400. Ionic Spark is especially funny: you're always in Phoenix even if you didn't level it after you buy one.
I was in a game where my team had a jungle Alistar. This guy did NOTHING, not even gank and he went mobility boots and went AP.
We lost that big time.
I had a blind baron steal as orianna through the wall to baron pit.
No one even said good job on my team.
Plus, he transitions terrific into late game to become a good iniator/CC during team fights, and all you need is his ult to survive team fights, so the tanky items on top are just icing. He has a fairly slow clear early, but since you only need level 2 for successful ganks it's not a big deal. And he only needs the first blue, so he doesn't really have any super weakness as a jungler.
If I had my way, I'd rather have a really good support Alistar with a jungler like Udyr to have both of their CCs for team fights, but depending on who the enemy mid is and your own team comp, Ali is one of my favorite junglers for sure.