The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.

Help me do proper crunches(and general fitness advice)

KleinKlein Registered User regular
edited May 2012 in Help / Advice Forum
I have recently started working out and I need some advice on doing crunches. I am having issues doing crunches without raising my legs or if I put my feet under furniture, without lifting my feet and pushing on the furniture, and I know this isn't how crunches are done. Any advice or any other workouts to strengthen my core?

As for my other workouts, I am running and walking a bit every day and I am doing the 100 push up challenge. I am about 6 feet tall and weigh about 190 pounds. I would say I am out of shape but not fat by any means, but I know I can lose a few pounds. I plan on spending the rest of Summer working out to be in better shape next year.

As for my diet I have cut all soda and other beverages besides water with powdered Gatorade. Need to work on eating healthier, I don't eat any candy or sugary foods, but I need to cook better, so any advice there would also help.

I do have access to a gym, so any advice on workouts there would be appreciated. My goal is to lose a few pounds of fat and put on some muscle weight.

Klein on

Posts

  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    My (vague) understanding of crunches is that you shouldn't be trying to go all the way up with your torso or anything, you're just going up enough to work your abs. That should be easy enough to do without bracing your feet or anything. My advice for cooking healthier would be to use healthy/vegetable oils like coconut, canola, etc. rather than fatty oils like butter, and stick to rice/beans/quinoa/etc. for your protein or at the very least stick to leaner meats like chicken. But mostly, lots of vegetables.

  • y2jake215y2jake215 certified Flat Birther theorist the Last Good Boy onlineRegistered User regular
    A lot of gyms have benches with little bars you can brace your feet underneath to do crunches on, like this:

    sit-up-bench-incline-twist.jpg

    If you're having trouble keeping your feet down, that's an option until you get more accustomed. What I'm doing right now for my ab workout is:

    3 sets of 15 reps: Weighted ab crunch - What I usually do for this is use a tricep pulldown machine and pull downwards in a sit-up fashion, except I'm kneeling instead of laying on my back
    3 sets of 15 reps to each side: Curls aimed at each oblique on the decline bench shown above (I hold a medicine ball, you may or may not need the added weight yet)
    3 sets of 15 reps: Leg raises while holding myself up on a dip machine, something like this:

    191gm.jpg

    3 sets of 15 reps to each side: Ab twists like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzEPqDKub3M

    I do this every other day - I can definitely feel it the day after. Give it a try and see how you like it

    C8Ft8GE.jpg
    maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    I always start back after a layoff with a weight program based around six lifts:

    the bench press, the squat, and the row on day one; the press, the squat and the dead lift on day two. Allow one day of rest between them, and take two days off after three workouts (IE mon, wed, fri). Do them in five sets of five, except the deadlifts, of which you do one set of five. Start with very low weight, focus on form, and work up by adding five pounds a week. Do them with free weights. Not machines. Especially not smith machines. DO NOT SQUAT IN A SMITH RACK EVER. If you want to do more, you can do cardio everyday, bodyweight training (situps, pushups, dips, chinups) on off days. This is the old, original "starting strength" program, and it does wonders. These are classic weightroom excercises - they do a lot more, but take a lot more technique than isolation excercises (such as curls, flys, leg presses)...so you have to learn the form of the exercises well, but if you invest the time into learning to do them right, you'll be golden and you'll be stronger than people who spend twice as much time in the gym

  • Mad JazzMad Jazz gotta go fast AustinRegistered User regular
    Smith machines are fucking terrible.

    For crunches, you're not going to be bringing your back off the floor. If your back comes off the ground and you find yourself sitting in an upright position at any point, that's a situp. In fact, you should focus on keeping your back (especially lower back) flat on the ground as you go up, using your abs to bring your shoulders off the ground. A good way to check yourself is to lay your arms down by your sides with palms to the floor, and set a target about six inches away from your fingertips. The crunch is complete when you bring your fingertips to the target by flexing your upper abs. When you're doing them right, you'll feel it in your upper abdominals, right below your solar plexus.

    camo_sig2.png
  • KidDynamiteKidDynamite Registered User regular
    Man, the thing that helped me the most was one of those yoga/exercise balls. I was always worried about my lower back etc... and since then It has helped tremendously. I find I can do more "proper" crunches and have really noticed a difference vs a machine or the floor.

  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Want to know how to do a proper crunch?

    Lift your legs up off the floor (bent knees, usually 90 degree angles). Cross your arms so your hands are on the opposite shoulder. Now, forget about your abs and push your back into the floor as hard as you can. Your upper and lower body will lift naturally. Hold for 1-3 seconds, repeat.

  • Ice-NineIce-Nine Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Dude, I'm 6' exactly and was 190+ a few months ago. Now I'm 165 and I've got the well defined 6 pack again. Didn't consciously change my diet, just started running outdoors on trails once spring hit, 30 - 60 mins around 5 days a week. The difference in motivation to exercise for me comes from the environment I'm running in - if it's on a treadmill I'm simply not going to do it. If I'm running on a nice trail, where it's beautiful outside and I've got some isolation and peace, I'm going to want to run for the experience itself.

    Don't know your level of fitness, but for me that's all that I needed - long, intense cardio outdoors. And I swear that the more I exercise the less of an appetite I have. Do you have access to any rural trails? I live next to mountains so I'm pretty lucky.

    As regards ab workouts - bicycle crunch or exercise ball. Bicycle crunch doesn't kill the lower back and it provides a balanced workout.

    But, if your looking for sexy abs, running will be your best bet imo. I've always had killer abs and I rarely do ab works, it's just from running.

    Ice-Nine on
  • sacreandprofanesacreandprofane Registered User regular
    8 Minute Abs.

    It's from the 80's but it's still effective. He explains how to do each move, which you should continue to do on your own for longer sets once you feel like you can do them properly on your own. You might choose to alternate the different types of crunches every other day or so.

    The music in the background is cheesy but it honestly helped me to get into a good rhythm. Good luck!

  • FairchildFairchild Rabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?" Registered User regular
    Please, please, please don't put your hands behind your head when doing any sort of ab exercise. No matter how careful you are, this leads you to pull your head forward as you sit up, which is very bad for you neck and back. It also makes the exercise put less focus on your abdominal muscles, which is the point, right ?

  • RaekreuRaekreu Registered User regular
    If you've got a workout partner, you could try assisted leg raises. If you don't mind looking ridiculous while exercising, anyhow.

    Basically, you lie flat on your back and your partner stands at your head, facing towards your feet. You grip the back of your partner's legs without using your thumbs (think underhand chin-up grip, basically). Then, raise your legs with slightly bent knees. Your partner then will shove your legs back down when you've got them raised high enough for him to reach. Your job is to provide enough resistance such that your heels never touch the ground. Partner can push your legs to either side or straight back down to work different muscles.

    I have no idea if these are safe to do, but I never felt anything but ridiculous burn in my abs, hips, and whatever muscle group is right around the love handle region.

  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    Fairchild wrote: »
    Please, please, please don't put your hands behind your head when doing any sort of ab exercise. No matter how careful you are, this leads you to pull your head forward as you sit up, which is very bad for you neck and back. It also makes the exercise put less focus on your abdominal muscles, which is the point, right ?

    Yeah, I agree. As an alternative, I put my hands on my chest, and chrunch that way. It makes things a little more difficult, but safer.

    Steam- SteveBartz Xbox Live- SteveBartz PSN Name- SteveBartz
  • sacreandprofanesacreandprofane Registered User regular
    Fairchild wrote: »
    Please, please, please don't put your hands behind your head when doing any sort of ab exercise. No matter how careful you are, this leads you to pull your head forward as you sit up, which is very bad for you neck and back. It also makes the exercise put less focus on your abdominal muscles, which is the point, right ?

    Yeah, I agree. As an alternative, I put my hands on my chest, and chrunch that way. It makes things a little more difficult, but safer.

    You can also hold your arms out straight, parallel to the ground.

  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    Do the best workout. Burpees.

  • KleinKlein Registered User regular
    Hey guys, just wanting to let you know that I am still sticking to this and am doing well. I know how to do proper crunches(keep my hands crossed on my chest) and I am feeling better. I was unable to work out this last weekend and my body is feeling great after that break. How long should I let my muscles rest after running? I was running every day until this weekend like I said, after taking two days off I feel better, so I think I may have been going a bit too hard initially.

  • Ice-NineIce-Nine Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Klein wrote: »
    How long should I let my muscles rest after running? I was running every day until this weekend like I said, after taking two days off I feel better, so I think I may have been going a bit too hard initially.
    Beginner's training guide
    Start with the "pre-train" recommendation. Just keep in mind it's not about pushing through excruciating pain, it's about consistency and not having a lapse in dedication. Enjoy the experience, keep it light until you feel comfortable pushing things to the next level. I think coolrunning offers some great training guides, for free too.
    Rhan9 wrote: »
    Do the best workout. Burpees.
    Word. Haha, or start boxing. Who's counting brain cells, anyway? You might say, "Lots of researchers." But those researchers are just jealous.

    Ice-Nine on
  • KleinKlein Registered User regular
    Just want to update you guys on how it is going. I have been running and hitting the gym about every other day(run one day, work out the next) and I am feeling healthier overall and have already dropped a few pounds, but I am looking to build muscle while also losing fat.

    When I run I am experiencing shin splints. I am stretching before I run and work out (20 seconds per stretch minimum, longer if I still feel tense). Any advice? After about a mile it starts to kick in and hurt. Any advice?

  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    Try a running machine or a stationary bike. There's really not much you can do about shin splints besides putting less weight on your legs. Could also be your running form is pounding away on your legs too hard.

  • LucidLucid Registered User regular
    I do bicycle crunches;
    The bicycle crunch is a variation of the twisting crunch performed by bringing together alternating elbows and knees, resulting in a leg motion similar to pedaling a bicycle. The bicycle crunch is the most effective in targeting the rectus abdominis and the obliques, according to a study done by the American Council on Exercise.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqoD0Bdggto

  • Ice-NineIce-Nine Registered User regular
    Klein wrote: »
    When I run I am experiencing shin splints. I am stretching before I run and work out (20 seconds per stretch minimum, longer if I still feel tense). Any advice? After about a mile it starts to kick in and hurt. Any advice?
    Vibram 5 finger running shoes. They're fucking magic. Cushioned running shoes are what cause the problem. (at least for me!)

    Here's my anecdotal experience: I ran cross-country, and remained a pretty active runner after high school, but I was in a constant state of having shin splints. 2 years ago I got Vibram 5-finger shoes and I have never had shin splints again. In fact I STILL run in the same pair! I can just cruise for an hour or more and have no pain from it. Traditional running shoes fucking suck, I'll go ahead and say it.

    Downside - they're pricey, but no more than some fancy-yet-totally-useless high end running shoe. Also, it can take like 6 weeks for your feet to adjust to being "barefoot."

    I'm serious, it was like magic for me. I'd tried out different brands and different shoes - saucony, asics, etc. It's all marketing bullshit, none of their shoes make a goddam difference. Less is definitely more in this case. I'd stop short of saying it's better to go barefoot, because there've been numerous times where I've been on a trail and a thorn goes right through the sole of my Vibrams and barely punctures the skin. And the Vibrams are made of tough rubber.

    If you do get some, make sure that they're designed for running rather than for walking, because the soles have to be more durable. 10-20 minute stretching before a run and I've never had problems since I made the switch.

  • HeisenbergHeisenberg Registered User regular
    Klein wrote: »
    Just want to update you guys on how it is going. I have been running and hitting the gym about every other day(run one day, work out the next) and I am feeling healthier overall and have already dropped a few pounds, but I am looking to build muscle while also losing fat.

    When I run I am experiencing shin splints. I am stretching before I run and work out (20 seconds per stretch minimum, longer if I still feel tense). Any advice? After about a mile it starts to kick in and hurt. Any advice?

    Work on your form and changing up the shoes is pretty much all you can do, I think.

  • jwidemanjwideman Registered User regular
    Shin splints doesn't just mean pain in your legs. It's an actual medical condition that only a doctor can diagnose. If there's no swelling or inflammation, just keep running.

  • jwidemanjwideman Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Most intense ab workout ever is what we called "twisted scissors" in bootcamp. You lay on your back, arms at your sides, palms on the floor. You cross your left leg over your right, lift both legs while uncrossing until they are at 90 degrees, as you lower them cross your right over your left. Reverse this and repeat quickly. Do them as fast as you can while maintaining form.

    jwideman on
  • HeisenbergHeisenberg Registered User regular
    Twisted scissors are the best. Simple, effective, and brutal.

Sign In or Register to comment.