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Thurr's a FEUD goin' on! [Hatfields and McCoys]

CantidoCantido Registered User regular
edited May 2012 in Debate and/or Discourse
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The Hatfields and McCoys. All I know about them is from old Warner Brothers and Hanna Barbera. The History Channel makes an attempt to tell a darker tale than cartoons of old with their new show Hartfields and McCoys.
IF THE default state of life in nature is “nasty, brutish and short,” as philosopher Thomas Hobbes suggested in the 17th century, the Hatfields and McCoys were in perfect harmony with the world around them.

This ambitious six-hour dramatization of America’s most famous and lethal family feud suggests that even when these two families weren’t shooting at each other, life in the back country of Kentucky and West Virginia in the late 19th century was a battle.

The food supply was spotty, clothes look uncomfortable and health and well-being seem to be largely a matter of luck.

That this ambience comes across says producer/star Kevin Costner and his team have done well. “Hatfields & McCoys” doesn’t just explain a feud, it humanizes the people on both sides and reminds us how differently some of our ancestors lived just a few generations back.

Costner plays “Devil Anse” Hatfield, the patriarch of his clan.

Devil Anse is a decent man with a sharp eye for business and self-preservation.

He acquires land to start a lumber business that thrives as the Civil War ends and the country starts to grow.

He survived that war partly because, as a Confederate soldier, he rode away when he saw there was no winning for anyone.

By deserting, however, he opened a fateful breach with Randall McCoy (Bill Paxton), his close friend and fellow soldier.

Their families, also one-time friends, begin to break apart after the war, though it isn’t until the 1880s that simmering resentment and the ill-advised hot tempers of youth lead to most of the dozen killings that would be the enduring legacy of the feud.

Some of the killers are just dumb hillbillies. Others, like Devil Anse’s Uncle Jim (Tom Berenger) and even some of the womenfolk, feel their code of honor and family sometimes requires them to break some of the Ten Commandments by which they otherwise try to live.

Being six hours long, “Hatfields & McCoys” also has room for subplots like Roseanna McCoy falling in love with and then becoming pregnant by Johnse Hatfield.

While that sounds soapy, it’s used here more to illustrate the responses and feelings of other family members.

Here as in other parts of the story, there’s a darkness that sometimes makes us examine who we’re rooting for and why.

It’s also a story without a lot of conventional heroes. Here, heroism is putting one foot in front of the other, obeying more commandments than you break and maybe passing on a few lessons that will someday make the world a little less short, nasty or brutish.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/television/television-review-hatfields-mccoys-history-article-1.1084558#ixzz1wDTqvW5f

It's currently debuting 9PM EST. Whose watching it?

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    Will the show address the very real theories of aliens causing the feud?

    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Show looks amazing , bout to watch it now

  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    Trailer looked cool. Tried watching it... way, way too boring.

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  • HamurabiHamurabi MiamiRegistered User regular
    Is this what they have to sink to to try and get people interested in history?

    At least it isn't another fuckin' Difficult Working Class Jobs That Are Difficult So Maybe You Should Invest in an Education™ reality series.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Well it is a historical thing that actually happened. I mean Gettysburg is a TNT original or something, but it was a pretty accurate portrayal of the battle, so this is better than their alien shows or Ax Men or whatever.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    But not alien ax men. That is the best show

    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    Kagera wrote: »
    Will the show address the very real theories of aliens causing the feud?

    The Mexicans! Of course, it's always them.

    I'd be curious to see this show. Since Merry Melodies I've been shown snippets and references to this story, but I've never sat down and researched the details surrounding "the feud."

  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Wow what's up with the hate? I thought it was amazing. Great actors, great scenery, great story.

    It's a part of our American history, and so tragic/stupid. It's almost a modern day Romeo and Juliet. I can't believe this happened so close after the civil war where so many Americans lost their lives. Just goes to show humans are at time
    Too prideful/stupid.

    I always knew the basics of the feud, but now want to read more about it.

    Surprised to see Kevin Costner casted as the "bad guy". Not that there's a bad guy, but their family seems more in the wrong.

    And the other families dipshit cousin. Times change, but lawyers stay sleezy.

    Fantastic acting, sets, etc.... Can't wait to see the next 2 episodes and buy it on DVD.

    Also, I recorded 2 H 6 minutes. First 40 minutes no commercials, and after that, there wasn't many it seemed. Pretty awesome.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Modern day Romeo and Juliet, except its truely modern day as in Romeo gets the girl pregnant and then marries her cousin...

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    Kevin Costner's in this? I thought Waterworld killed his acting acting career.

    Given that he made $TEXAS on the oil spill cleaning machines he sold to BP last year I'm surprised he's interested in working at all

  • HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    I'm pretty impressed with this so far.

    While racing light mechs, your Urbanmech comes in second place, but only because it ran out of ammo.
  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    Godfather wrote: »
    Kevin Costner's in this? I thought Waterworld killed his acting acting career.

    Given that he made $TEXAS on the oil spill cleaning machines he sold to BP last year I'm surprised he's interested in working at all

    Maybe the dude just likes playing dress-up? Also he was in a string of movies after Waterworld; Postman, 3K Miles to Graceland... That one movie...

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    He was in that one movie that was a pseudo sequel to the graduate

    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Saw a segment on this on an entertainment news show, Entertainment Tonight maybe. The scenes they showed were awful.

  • YarYar Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    A plague upon both their houses.

    P.S. Bill Paxton is rove and less than three.

    Yar on
  • HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    I didn't know West Virginia and Kentucky were such lawless hell-holes.

    While racing light mechs, your Urbanmech comes in second place, but only because it ran out of ammo.
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    I didn't know West Virginia and Kentucky were such lawless hell-holes.

    Clearly you haven't seen Justified...

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Nocren wrote: »
    Godfather wrote: »
    Kevin Costner's in this? I thought Waterworld killed his acting acting career.

    Given that he made $TEXAS on the oil spill cleaning machines he sold to BP last year I'm surprised he's interested in working at all

    Maybe the dude just likes playing dress-up? Also he was in a string of movies after Waterworld; Postman, 3K Miles to Graceland... That one movie...

    I'm pretty sure Kevin Costner's agent doesn't take any meetings unless the part calls for an aging athlete, a cowboy, or a government official.

    And I think Powers Boothe probably uses the same agent.



    Interesting aside: This series is directed by Kevin Reynolds, who directed Costner in three films already: Waterworld, Fandango, and Robin Hood.

  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    This mini-series was not very good. But it did get incredibly high ratings.


    The people do love them some Kevin Costner cowboy movies.

  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    Boy did it just sputter out in the end.

    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
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