The only Pokemon game that caught my interest. Hopefully it will arrive in Europe soon enough.
Wait.. Australia got it and Europe didn't? Whaaaaat?
Crazy, isn't it? I'm really not sure what NoE is thinking here.
The fuck is even happening? This is possibly the most retarded thing I've heard all week.
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Likely because NoE has to add five different languages. Yes, apparently even the British need to have five language options. I imagine NoE's priority is currently BW2. They also have Fire Emblem and Paper Mario. Lots of translating.
I had the grass warlord grab two different golds, neither of which turned out to be a perfect link, so they're not always perfect.
I think that's because the Grass warlord already has a perfect link, with whatever poke he started with. I'm not sure if you can have multiples.
On that subject, however, are the advanced Eeveelutions in this or are the RBY ones the only options? I'd much rather have a Glaceon or Umbreon than the Vaporeon I'll get if I don't have a choice (because I always take the water starter).
I had the grass warlord grab two different golds, neither of which turned out to be a perfect link, so they're not always perfect.
I think that's because the Grass warlord already has a perfect link, with whatever poke he started with. I'm not sure if you can have multiples.
On that subject, however, are the advanced Eeveelutions in this or are the RBY ones the only options? I'd much rather have a Glaceon or Umbreon than the Vaporeon I'll get if I don't have a choice (because I always take the water starter).
Management isn't anything too special. You only really get into it if you're interested in getting perfect links and searching for pokemon.
You don't really have to grind. It's only a problem if you need a certain type for a big battle or something, where the ringers will be behind the main team. This can happen, as later countries have varied types more than their namesake implies.
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For anyone who has been playing a lot or maybe has beaten it, do we know how long the story/campaign is?
I had the grass warlord grab two different golds, neither of which turned out to be a perfect link, so they're not always perfect.
I think that's because the Grass warlord already has a perfect link, with whatever poke he started with. I'm not sure if you can have multiples.
On that subject, however, are the advanced Eeveelutions in this or are the RBY ones the only options? I'd much rather have a Glaceon or Umbreon than the Vaporeon I'll get if I don't have a choice (because I always take the water starter).
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Yeah, I figured the first one would be involved somehow. Good to know that it's an option, though. I still have no clue how evolution actually works in this game, though. I suppose it would be easy enough to look up, but I'm kind of enjoying the mystery right now.
Seriously guys, the "main campaign" is pretty much an introduction to the real game, which is in the "side stories." Some of those are short, but many of them are full-fledged campaigns with a higher difficulty level, more aggressive enemies, and the ability to develop your towns (which indeed is not present in the first campaign.) I'm playing the other chapters now, and they're a lot more fun.
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Really hate when a pokemon evolves and switches his move to one that, while technically stronger, lowers their stats afterward.
Okay, so i just beat the main campaign, and I loved the game. One complaint:
When you finish the main story, your links reset. I get that to an extent for some of the stories, but why not have, along with the stories, an Ongoing Campaign mode of some kind? There were plenty of characters you didn't get to recruit, such as Keiji, who could serve as the antagonists in that mode, and you wouldn't feel like the last 20 hours were wasted.
Man, Nintendo isn't usually this bad at shipping out enough copies of popular games. Did they underestimate the number of Pokemon fans who are jumping at the chance to do something a little different?
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Mostly all I could find were Japanese sales numbers and VGChartz (lol), but I did find this list of all-time best-sellers for the DS worldwide, according to Nintendo as of 2009:
Brain Training - 17.4 million
New Super Mario Bros. - 18.4 million
Mario Kart DS - 14.6 million
Pokemon Platinum - 3.7 million
Nintendogs - 22.2 million Pokemon Mystery Dungeon - 4.5 million
Brain Training 2 - 13.7 million
Kirby Super Star Ultra - 2.3 million
Mario Party DS - 5.8 million
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - 16.8 million
Rhythm Heaven - 1.9 million
Personal Trainer: Cooking - 18.4 million Pokemon Ranger - 2 million
Professor Layton - 1.6 million (does not include Japanese sales, as not published by Nintendo in Japan)
Super Mario 64 DS - 7.5 million
Animal Crossing: Wild World - 10 million
Spin-offs obviously don't sell as well as the main series games (and nothing does, really, except Mario and apparently Personal and Brain Training :-p), but they sell a respectable amount. Just from the haphazard nature of it all, it seems like something messed up on the "shipping stuff out to retailers" end rather than it being a case of all the retailers underestimating demand.
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So, unless I'm missing something, there's no way to move linked Pokemon between two Warriors in your army?
If you have to make sure everyone is linked properly the first time, is there a list of all the Perfect Links so I know what to look for? Kind of annoyed that I am basically stuck with a team full of cruddy 50%-70% guys, even if that won't be important for a while.
Left one of the fighting type dudes I picked up delegating for a bit and he comes back with a team full of perfect linked pokemon after a couple of months.
HOLY SHIT. Conquest's post game is exactly what I wanted from this game. It adds more elements from the Ambition and Empire series in and the game becomes super addicting.
Spin-offs obviously don't sell as well as the main series games (and nothing does, really, except Mario and apparently Personal and Brain Training :-p), but they sell a respectable amount. Just from the haphazard nature of it all, it seems like something messed up on the "shipping stuff out to retailers" end rather than it being a case of all the retailers underestimating demand.
Fair. Although I think there is one other factor to be considered here.
This is a DS game... not a 3DS game. Nintendo just spent like two years trying to get retailers to shift their focus. Awesome for people who were waiting for the 3DS XL (8/19... finally), a little confusing for people who are probably out of touch with gaming in general.
I've unlocked the next 3 kingdoms after the beginning, and I'm already confused as to what I'm expected to do. I can fight either the electric or fighting kingdoms, but I have absolutely no ground or psychic pokemon, nor do I appear to have any method of obtaining any yet. I tried attacking the electric, but I see no possible way how I'm going to capture the warlord. I'm not going to kill her in 4 turns. I'm sure as shit not going to do it without getting hit. The only pokes I have that aren't water are grass and fire, and the fire's are fucking useless with their 2 range attacks since everybody just fights in the electric spots where they can't be hit.
So like I said, I'm not sure what the game wants me to do here.
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The game wants you to take Violight, the Electric Kingdom. Do a bit of training, then give it another go. I believe you can already recruit Warriors with Woopers, but they won't have Ground attacks,
Also, this is not your only chance to recruit Ginchiyo. Once you've taken Violight, she'll show up randomly in the training battle things. Warriors with Flying types will also start showing up, which will be helpful for taking Chrysalia and Pugilis.
I've unlocked the next 3 kingdoms after the beginning, and I'm already confused as to what I'm expected to do. I can fight either the electric or fighting kingdoms, but I have absolutely no ground or psychic pokemon, nor do I appear to have any method of obtaining any yet. I tried attacking the electric, but I see no possible way how I'm going to capture the warlord. I'm not going to kill her in 4 turns. I'm sure as shit not going to do it without getting hit. The only pokes I have that aren't water are grass and fire, and the fire's are fucking useless with their 2 range attacks since everybody just fights in the electric spots where they can't be hit.
So like I said, I'm not sure what the game wants me to do here.
If you're lucky, you can have warriors show up in farm areas that have pokemon that aren't native to the kingdoms you currently have at that point in the game. I had a Warrior with a Sandile appear in one of my farms, and recruiting her pretty much guaranteed a steamroll of the enemy team. It had intimidate and mud slap, and since it was ground type as well, it was pretty much a god in that battle.
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Woo, finally evolved my Magikarp.
Gyarados is a fucking beast in this. It helps that the generic warrior who gets a perfect link with him actually has really good stats too.
Kind of tempted to see what Motochika's max link is with Gyarados now.
So basically don't be afraid to just kick back and train for a month or two, and don't sweat missing the warlords. Feels unnatural, but I can do that. :P
Though as it turns out, I did have some psychic 'mons in the two guys that join from the wi-fi thingy, and managed to use them to deal with Pugilis and snag the warlord. So win/win.
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I just used Zubats for Pugilis. They're basically tailor suited to fuck up fighting types even more than psychic.
It was a rather iffy fight, to be honest. First off, they had an attack range of 3, even harder to work with than fire types. Then we have a small battle ring, barely able to accommodate said attack range. And then the nature of the ring itself, since I was pushing people off with every attack and having to wait for them to climb back.
Still worked out ok, but thank goodness for the 25 turn limit.
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Pugilis was easy. I ended up parking a pokemon in the opening of the narrow bridge after I pushed everyone off with the OP Carnavine dude you pick up early on. If my body blocker got low, I switched him out for someone else.
I still had the psychic alternatives the wifi event dudes had just in case.
What? To conquer Pugilis, you simply needed to take and hold the banners for five turns. Pushing the enemy off the centre only makes that easier.
Unless you were really determined to recruit every enemy right away, I guess.
Yeah, this. It was easy enough, and I could do it. So why not.
The one downside: Near the end, Confusion actually confused somebody, who proceeded to move and KO his own partner. So sadly I did not get to recruit him. But I just wanted the warlord anyways, everybody else was just a bonus.
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I'm super excited. Strategy Pokemon....that is just awesome.
When this was announced I was afraid we weren't getting it.
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Likely because NoE has to add five different languages. Yes, apparently even the British need to have five language options. I imagine NoE's priority is currently BW2. They also have Fire Emblem and Paper Mario. Lots of translating.
I think that's because the Grass warlord already has a perfect link, with whatever poke he started with. I'm not sure if you can have multiples.
On that subject, however, are the advanced Eeveelutions in this or are the RBY ones the only options? I'd much rather have a Glaceon or Umbreon than the Vaporeon I'll get if I don't have a choice (because I always take the water starter).
According to http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/pokemon.shtml, you need
also, is there a lot of grinding or can you pretty much roll through the story without worrying about catching them all?
You don't really have to grind. It's only a problem if you need a certain type for a big battle or something, where the ringers will be behind the main team. This can happen, as later countries have varied types more than their namesake implies.
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Yeah, I figured the first one would be involved somehow. Good to know that it's an option, though. I still have no clue how evolution actually works in this game, though. I suppose it would be easy enough to look up, but I'm kind of enjoying the mystery right now.
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Loving it so far. Kind of weird doing the one-turn-a-month thing and turns get eaten by shopping/training.
What kind of numbers do/did Ranger, Mystery Dungeon, and Trozei get?
Brain Training - 17.4 million
New Super Mario Bros. - 18.4 million
Mario Kart DS - 14.6 million
Pokemon Platinum - 3.7 million
Nintendogs - 22.2 million
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon - 4.5 million
Brain Training 2 - 13.7 million
Kirby Super Star Ultra - 2.3 million
Mario Party DS - 5.8 million
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - 16.8 million
Rhythm Heaven - 1.9 million
Personal Trainer: Cooking - 18.4 million
Pokemon Ranger - 2 million
Professor Layton - 1.6 million (does not include Japanese sales, as not published by Nintendo in Japan)
Super Mario 64 DS - 7.5 million
Animal Crossing: Wild World - 10 million
Spin-offs obviously don't sell as well as the main series games (and nothing does, really, except Mario and apparently Personal and Brain Training :-p), but they sell a respectable amount. Just from the haphazard nature of it all, it seems like something messed up on the "shipping stuff out to retailers" end rather than it being a case of all the retailers underestimating demand.
If you have to make sure everyone is linked properly the first time, is there a list of all the Perfect Links so I know what to look for? Kind of annoyed that I am basically stuck with a team full of cruddy 50%-70% guys, even if that won't be important for a while.
http://www.serebii.net/conquest/bushou2.shtml
It basically becomes Pokemon Warriors: Empires.
Fair. Although I think there is one other factor to be considered here.
This is a DS game... not a 3DS game. Nintendo just spent like two years trying to get retailers to shift their focus. Awesome for people who were waiting for the 3DS XL (8/19... finally), a little confusing for people who are probably out of touch with gaming in general.
In other news... holy hell is this steel kingdom tough.
So like I said, I'm not sure what the game wants me to do here.
Also, this is not your only chance to recruit Ginchiyo. Once you've taken Violight, she'll show up randomly in the training battle things. Warriors with Flying types will also start showing up, which will be helpful for taking Chrysalia and Pugilis.
If you're lucky, you can have warriors show up in farm areas that have pokemon that aren't native to the kingdoms you currently have at that point in the game. I had a Warrior with a Sandile appear in one of my farms, and recruiting her pretty much guaranteed a steamroll of the enemy team. It had intimidate and mud slap, and since it was ground type as well, it was pretty much a god in that battle.
Gyarados is a fucking beast in this. It helps that the generic warrior who gets a perfect link with him actually has really good stats too.
Kind of tempted to see what Motochika's max link is with Gyarados now.
Though as it turns out, I did have some psychic 'mons in the two guys that join from the wi-fi thingy, and managed to use them to deal with Pugilis and snag the warlord. So win/win.
Still worked out ok, but thank goodness for the 25 turn limit.
Unless you were really determined to recruit every enemy right away, I guess.
I still had the psychic alternatives the wifi event dudes had just in case.
Yeah, this. It was easy enough, and I could do it. So why not.
The one downside: Near the end, Confusion actually confused somebody, who proceeded to move and KO his own partner. So sadly I did not get to recruit him. But I just wanted the warlord anyways, everybody else was just a bonus.