[Pokemon Conquest] Gotta recruit and catch em all on Nintendo DS.

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  • InxInx Registered User regular
    I'm not grinding his link, is the problem.

    I'm trying to find his perfect fucking link and its a rare fucking dark type and argh this is taking forever.

  • JishianJishian ◥▶◀◤ Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Lapras vs Lapras is the worst matchup. I lost once due to time running out and his had 1hp left.

    Kunoichi and her Scrafty can kill anything that isn't a ghost though.

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  • InxInx Registered User regular
    So I managed to pull through Kotaro's side story, but only because I eventually abandoned trying to get him a Zorua. The process for it is such bullshit, I can't even properly express it.

    See, by my understanding, Zorua shows up ONLY when Kotaro is in your squad going for wild pokemon. It doesn't show up on the list, but instead will sometimes randomly put itself in as a REPLICA OF ANOTHER WILD POKEMON.

    Well guess what never friggin' happened for me.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Inx wrote: »
    So I managed to pull through Kotaro's side story, but only because I eventually abandoned trying to get him a Zorua. The process for it is such bullshit, I can't even properly express it.

    See, by my understanding, Zorua shows up ONLY when Kotaro is in your squad going for wild pokemon. It doesn't show up on the list, but instead will sometimes randomly put itself in as a REPLICA OF ANOTHER WILD POKEMON.

    Well guess what never friggin' happened for me.

    But then couldn't you tell by the color of the medal at it's head? What usually would be broze or silver for Kotaro would be gold? And then just switch off-> reload until it shows?

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Inx wrote: »
    So I managed to pull through Kotaro's side story, but only because I eventually abandoned trying to get him a Zorua. The process for it is such bullshit, I can't even properly express it.

    See, by my understanding, Zorua shows up ONLY when Kotaro is in your squad going for wild pokemon. It doesn't show up on the list, but instead will sometimes randomly put itself in as a REPLICA OF ANOTHER WILD POKEMON.

    Well guess what never friggin' happened for me.

    Wow. That is some bullshit. Of course, you couldn't get one in B/W outside of specific events (barring breeding). Then again, I've HAD specific (random) events in Conquest, so they could have done something similar here if they wanted to.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Does anyone know if there's an extremely simple list anywhere of all the warriors and their Best Links? I know the Serebii and Gamefaq stuff but I just want something I can print on one page in Notepad and stick in my carrying case and those are way too stupidly complex.

  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    Inx wrote: »
    So I managed to pull through Kotaro's side story, but only because I eventually abandoned trying to get him a Zorua. The process for it is such bullshit, I can't even properly express it.

    See, by my understanding, Zorua shows up ONLY when Kotaro is in your squad going for wild pokemon. It doesn't show up on the list, but instead will sometimes randomly put itself in as a REPLICA OF ANOTHER WILD POKEMON.

    Well guess what never friggin' happened for me.

    Yeah, that's how it works. I got lucky and hit a starly with a not-very-effective attack and it turned into zorua. I was like, "seriously?"

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Man... Dragon Rage is such a cheatyface move in this game.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Yeah, low hit rate, but 40 damage is pretty huge in this game.

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    At least one guy with a Dratini also has the Marksman skill...

  • InxInx Registered User regular
    It's really bad when your opponent has a dratini and an axew.

    Oh and at the same time your only dragon keeps missing.

    yeah that doesn't make me want to throw my ds at all

  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    Unless you can feasibly take out a dragon within the first two turns, taking on anyone with a dragon in the early game is suicide.

  • InxInx Registered User regular
    Anyone else think it's a load of bull that in Oichi's side story Rose of Ransei, they start you off in PUGILIS?

    Oh hey, jigglypuff, have fun training amongst all these FIGHTING TYPES.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I just blitzed all the surrounding castles in the first few turns with Wigglytuff+Guardian Charm.

    Guardian Charm is my answer to any of the difficult stuff.

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    I had Oichi use the Dragonair I trained up in the main storyline. Made beating Ranmaru and her one warrior really easy -- especially when one of them got caught in one of Chrysalia's bullshit traps and let me 2-for-1 them with Dragon Tail. :P

  • InxInx Registered User regular
    Also, why can't Scizor or Beedrill fly?

    Also I want a sequel so we can maybe have more robust multiplayer cuz how great would it be to hold a campaign against friend(s)?

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Inx wrote: »
    Also, why can't Scizor or Beedrill fly?

    Scizor I just assume is too heavy for those stubby wings to give any lift.

    Beedrill has no excuse. Vanguard is ok at the low levels Twinneedle is good at, however.

  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    The Dratini I got for Oichi became a Dragonite right before the Nobunaga fight. Just started the side story. Feels fun recruiting the trainers I had before, having their pokemon roster update to what they had previous and just wreck castles with fully evolved mons.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    I had Oichi use the Dragonair I trained up in the main storyline. Made beating Ranmaru and her one warrior really easy -- especially when one of them got caught in one of Chrysalia's bullshit traps and let me 2-for-1 them with Dragon Tail. :P

    I don't know if you phrased this awkwardly and hence I misunderstood or perhaps you made a typo, but in any case, just to be clear: Ranmaru is male.

  • InxInx Registered User regular
    If Ranmaru is male why is he one of the enemy warlords in the Rose of Ransei story - a story, which is about a war amongst Ransei's female warlords?

  • ScisScis Registered User regular
    Inx wrote: »
    If Ranmaru is male why is he one of the enemy warlords in the Rose of Ransei story - a story, which is about a war amongst Ransei's female warlords?

    I thought he was female at first too, but he's referred to as male in his in-game profile, and the real Ranmaru was male too. Not sure why he is in the Rose of Ransei stories though.

  • InxInx Registered User regular
    Maybe a cheeky joke about how he's super girlpretty?

  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Inx wrote: »
    Maybe a cheeky joke about how he's super girlpretty?

    Yeah, pretty much. The Dynasty Warriors games do this, too. Every time there's a 'women-only' battle, you can be sure Zhang He makes an appearance.

  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    In Samurai Warriors, Ranmaru constantly gets pulled into the female only contests against his will.

  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Also, the historical Ranmaru was Nobunaga's lover, which Wikipedia tells me was normal back then, but you know how modern Japanese games tend to treat gay characters...

    (I've had fun looking up the characters on Wiki, since I know very little about 16th Century Japan)

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    I find it funny that Kai's warlord evolution is the only one that reduces the amount of clothing covering her. The rest of the warlords add a whole bunch of extra frills.

  • joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    Also, the historical Ranmaru was Nobunaga's lover, which Wikipedia tells me was normal back then, but you know how modern Japanese games tend to treat gay characters...

    (I've had fun looking up the characters on Wiki, since I know very little about 16th Century Japan)

    Is it the reverse now?

    Know nothing about the japanese.

  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    joshgotro wrote: »
    Also, the historical Ranmaru was Nobunaga's lover, which Wikipedia tells me was normal back then, but you know how modern Japanese games tend to treat gay characters...

    (I've had fun looking up the characters on Wiki, since I know very little about 16th Century Japan)

    Is it the reverse now?

    Know nothing about the japanese.

    Modern Japan, while not the worst place to be gay (it's one of the more open countries in Asia), isn't the most tolerant society either. As usual, big cities like Tokyo are more open to gay couples than rural areas. In Japanese video games, gay men tend to be depicted as particularly effeminate, though it's not always clear to Western audiences whether a character is supposed to be gay or simply a dandy, as the two character types tend to dress and act similarly. Anime and manga tend to have a wider representation of gay and lesbian characters, according to the audience they're aimed at.

    At any rate, I suspect that Ranmaru's "feminine" placement in the Tecmo Koei games has at least something to do with his historical relationship with Nobunaga, who as the powerful party in the relationship would be stereotypically assigned the masculine role. I don't actually know if that role was historically prescribed to the warlord in a warlord-retainer relationship in feudal Japan. Note that in the 16th century these guys wouldn't be considered "gay" by modern standards (it was the same in most societies... being "gay" as a social identity is a pretty modern institution). Nobunaga also had a wife and female consorts.

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    Go watch the first cutscene for Ranmaru in Samurai Warriors 1. The one with Mitsuhide in it.

    Yeah.

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  • InxInx Registered User regular
    edited July 2012
    So...what evolves the main character the second time?

    Also, I'm seriously considering restarting. I feel like I kinda screwed myself a little not taking my time and leveling up more in the main story.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Inx wrote: »
    So...what evolves the main character the second time?

    Also, I'm seriously considering restarting. I feel like I kinda screwed myself a little not taking my time and leveling up more in the main story.

    The main character won't evolve a second time until you beat the main story.

  • InxInx Registered User regular
    I did beat the main story.

    No second evolution.

  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    edited July 2012
    Inx wrote: »
    I did beat the main story.

    No second evolution.

    http://www.serebii.net/conquest/bushou.shtml says "complete episode", so post-game story maybe? It really sounds like main story though.

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  • InxInx Registered User regular
    edited July 2012
    Yeah, I saw that.

    I'm pretty much living proof that simply completing the main story isn't enough.

    I really don't know if I should restart though - I want to have more of the warlords that I had evolve, but at the same time I dont want to lose 36 hours of game time.

    Does the game start saving your link percentages in the side stories, or is it basically start over every single time? That will definitely effect my decision, because getting links up takes goddamn forever and these side stories don't give you much leisure time.


    EDIT: Serebii provides the answer: The Two Heroes of Ransei Hero ★★★★★ Complete All Other Episodes Unify the local Nations

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Uh oh, big, high level 6-man army attacks one of my towns where I was leveling up my warriors' lowbie mons. Oh goodie, its a flag map. Cap, stall, recap, stall, win. Easy link points np.

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  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    Arikado wrote: »
    Uh oh, big, high level 6-man army attacks one of my towns where I was leveling up my warriors' lowbie mons. Oh goodie, its a flag map. Cap, stall, recap, stall, win. Easy link points np.

    Heh, I use Terraria to grind up link. Capture it, pull out, capture it again.

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  • JishianJishian ◥▶◀◤ Registered User regular
    I thought it was odd that Ranmaru had a boy's name. Now it's just odd for other reasons.

  • InxInx Registered User regular
    So, yeah, Guardian Charm is the best thing ever for grinding up your links and getting your evolutions.

    Thanks to Guardian Charm, Oichi finally evolved, and she's rockin' a Dragonite.

    And I got Nene her Crobat.

  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    I have a Lapras with a Guardian Charm. Lapras with a Guardian Charm.

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