The thing about current alcoholics is spot on. It's just a rage thing. It's like ground glass being rubbed in as a reminder of your own failures. And there are a ton of little things. Like sugar cravings. I had them for years. Or how much I can get sick of ice tea. Or the urge I had to just punch a waiter because he kept coming over to ask if I wanted something alcoholic to drink. "Wouldn't you love a nice beer? Or we have a special on margaritas..." six times during a meal. Especially when I would have really killed for a big tall glass of vodka.
My mom texted me and said that my Oldest brother told her that he's an alcoholic and is living sober now. His fiancé helped him reach this conclusion
Whelp
is he actually an alcoholic?
your last sentence makes it sound like he isnt
He apparently he had a bad case of the DTs. My knee jerk reaction was to think OH OF COURSE SHE WOULD SAY THAT SHE'S TRYING TO BLAH BLAH
But then again they live together, she does really care about him, alcoholism runs, nay, gallops in my family, he's had trouble with drugs before, and I don't often get to see him so I wouldn't know either way
I cant be sure of anything but if the both of them think he shouldnt drink then I'm willing to get behind that.
is there a reason for that knee-jerk reaction eddy in terms of like stuff your brother's fiancee has said or done in the past or what
I don't think so. It was just an irrational kind of response
I mean my impression is that you don't just get the DTs. and no I quite like her. I don't know, it was all weird and sudden so I went through several internal responses over like a few minutes
DTs aren't super common. Feral would likely know better but it's under 10% of alcoholics that get actual DTs. More then half of alcoholics who quit will have some symptoms. But actual DTs are really dangerous and can be lethal. But some people use the term DTs to cover any of the withdrawal symptoms and there are a bunch. But the symptoms will show up pretty quickly after stopping. Some go away quickly, some like confusion can last a while. It's not particularly fun.
The first year is tough. There is a lot of learning who you are sober, a lot of learning how to be a sober person, and a lot of learning how to deal with social tasks. And it's an emotional roller coaster. There might be a happy alcoholic somewhere but I've never met one. There is a lot of shit that the alcohol helps you repress that's gonna come up.
any advice for me? I guess I should mostly just step up my efforts to hang out and have non drinking fun with him
if he really is an alcoholic, don't drink around him or suggest it. This sounds obvious, but by god a lot of people still do it. And be aware he will probably slip and have a drink one day, so try to support him stopping again ASAP, rather than lots of blaming etc.
The falling off the wagon part is very likely. It's super likely. Expect it. Alcoholism has a physical part but the emotional part is using it as a coping mechanism. Drink enough and often enough and you can be so very numb. And when shit gets stressful, that numbness can be appealing.
Drinking in front of him is a double edged thing. It's always a reminder of what you are. But at the same time, the feeling that your a pariah who prevents others from having a good time sucks ass too. So for a while, don't drink in front of him. In time you'll be able to.
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I just found out that my co-worker is descended from the people that held Killeen Castle in Ireland and has a small interest in the company that is now renovating the castle into a hotel and owns the golf course that was built on the estate.
If that is proof that America is a violent nation then Norway must be fucking thunderdome based on what happened a year ago on sunday.
Yeah, no, it's proof of jack shit other than the fact that there are disturbed people out there and always will be, and that your life can suddenly and without warning just... shatter.
I think that Moore could've been making a perfectly fine point if he hadn't been retarded and thrown his ridiculous politics into it. These kinds of shootings are very rare, and we're not going to get rid of them entirely. But we very much should examine the shooting, figure out what lessons can be learned from it and see if there's anything we can realistically change. There's always room to improve.
If that is proof that America is a violent nation then Norway must be fucking thunderdome based on what happened a year ago on sunday.
Yeah, no, it's proof of jack shit other than the fact that there are disturbed people out there and always will be, and that your life can suddenly and without warning just... shatter.
I think that Moore could've been making a perfectly fine point if he hadn't been retarded and thrown his ridiculous politics into it. These kinds of shootings are very rare, and we're not going to get rid of them entirely. But we very much should examine the shooting, figure out what lessons can be learned from it and see if there's anything we can realistically change. There's always room to improve.
the one common thread through all these shootings always seems to be that the person (in retrospect) was plainly dangerous and somehow society let them slip through the cracks
If that is proof that America is a violent nation then Norway must be fucking thunderdome based on what happened a year ago on sunday.
Yeah, no, it's proof of jack shit other than the fact that there are disturbed people out there and always will be, and that your life can suddenly and without warning just... shatter.
I think that Moore could've been making a perfectly fine point if he hadn't been retarded and thrown his ridiculous politics into it. These kinds of shootings are very rare, and we're not going to get rid of them entirely. But we very much should examine the shooting, figure out what lessons can be learned from it and see if there's anything we can realistically change. There's always room to improve.
not now, before anyone knows anything at all about it.
Alcohol has calories. Since a whole lot of an alcoholic's caloric intake comes out of a bottle, most alcoholics have very poor diets overall. So for instance, I would eat lunch, but by early evening, food would be replaced with booze. Drinking keeps the stomach busy, and alcohol suppresses the appetite. Then, maybe you binge on tacos at 2 a.m. As millions of college kids can tell you, the following day's result is known as "beer shits."
When you stop drinking, you subtract from the body all of those thousands of liquid calories, but now you're hungrier, so you eat to replace them. But a system used to digesting gallons of beer suddenly has pounds of meat and cheese to work on. It'd be like if a normal person spontaneously decided to spend a week slowly eating an entire moose.
The point being, have you ever shit an antler?
I'm told a less fatty diet helps with that. But the thing is that you're craving comfort foods. And comfort foods tend to be fatty. Does he mention the sugar cravings? Those suck.
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Dark Knight was awesome. It was kind of disturbing driving home last night to hear about the shooting in another theater about 30 minutes from where I saw the movie.
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My mom texted me and said that my Oldest brother told her that he's an alcoholic and is living sober now. His fiancé helped him reach this conclusion
Whelp
is he actually an alcoholic?
your last sentence makes it sound like he isnt
He apparently he had a bad case of the DTs. My knee jerk reaction was to think OH OF COURSE SHE WOULD SAY THAT SHE'S TRYING TO BLAH BLAH
But then again they live together, she does really care about him, alcoholism runs, nay, gallops in my family, he's had trouble with drugs before, and I don't often get to see him so I wouldn't know either way
I cant be sure of anything but if the both of them think he shouldnt drink then I'm willing to get behind that.
is there a reason for that knee-jerk reaction eddy in terms of like stuff your brother's fiancee has said or done in the past or what
I don't think so. It was just an irrational kind of response
I mean my impression is that you don't just get the DTs. and no I quite like her. I don't know, it was all weird and sudden so I went through several internal responses over like a few minutes
Ah, alcoholism. I sometimes wonder if I'll one day wake up and have some sort of negative effect for not drinking.
The thought terrifies me. I enjoy days when I'm just like 'welp, lets not have a drink at dinner or at night.' because I'll in theory get a good nights sleep.
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Dark Knight was awesome. It was kind of disturbing driving home last night to hear about the shooting in another theater about 30 minutes from where I saw the movie.
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Then again, many people get over the hump and people can drink around them. You should ask the person how they feel rather than a blanket "NEVER DRINK AROUND AN ALCOHOLIC."
I've seen a lot of advice questions from people dating an alcoholic who says point blank "I'm fine if you drink. I won't, but it's really no big deal to see others or be around it anymore."
The thing about current alcoholics is spot on. It's just a rage thing. It's like ground glass being rubbed in as a reminder of your own failures. And there are a ton of little things. Like sugar cravings. I had them for years. Or how much I can get sick of ice tea. Or the urge I had to just punch a waiter because he kept coming over to ask if I wanted something alcoholic to drink. "Wouldn't you love a nice beer? Or we have a special on margaritas..." six times during a meal. Especially when I would have really killed for a big tall glass of vodka.
My mom texted me and said that my Oldest brother told her that he's an alcoholic and is living sober now. His fiancé helped him reach this conclusion
Whelp
is he actually an alcoholic?
your last sentence makes it sound like he isnt
He apparently he had a bad case of the DTs. My knee jerk reaction was to think OH OF COURSE SHE WOULD SAY THAT SHE'S TRYING TO BLAH BLAH
But then again they live together, she does really care about him, alcoholism runs, nay, gallops in my family, he's had trouble with drugs before, and I don't often get to see him so I wouldn't know either way
I cant be sure of anything but if the both of them think he shouldnt drink then I'm willing to get behind that.
is there a reason for that knee-jerk reaction eddy in terms of like stuff your brother's fiancee has said or done in the past or what
I don't think so. It was just an irrational kind of response
I mean my impression is that you don't just get the DTs. and no I quite like her. I don't know, it was all weird and sudden so I went through several internal responses over like a few minutes
DTs aren't super common. Feral would likely know better but it's under 10% of alcoholics that get actual DTs. More then half of alcoholics who quit will have some symptoms. But actual DTs are really dangerous and can be lethal. But some people use the term DTs to cover any of the withdrawal symptoms and there are a bunch. But the symptoms will show up pretty quickly after stopping. Some go away quickly, some like confusion can last a while. It's not particularly fun.
The first year is tough. There is a lot of learning who you are sober, a lot of learning how to be a sober person, and a lot of learning how to deal with social tasks. And it's an emotional roller coaster. There might be a happy alcoholic somewhere but I've never met one. There is a lot of shit that the alcohol helps you repress that's gonna come up.
any advice for me? I guess I should mostly just step up my efforts to hang out and have non drinking fun with him
if he really is an alcoholic, don't drink around him or suggest it. This sounds obvious, but by god a lot of people still do it. And be aware he will probably slip and have a drink one day, so try to support him stopping again ASAP, rather than lots of blaming etc.
The falling off the wagon part is very likely. It's super likely. Expect it. Alcoholism has a physical part but the emotional part is using it as a coping mechanism. Drink enough and often enough and you can be so very numb. And when shit gets stressful, that numbness can be appealing.
Drinking in front of him is a double edged thing. It's always a reminder of what you are. But at the same time, the feeling that your a pariah who prevents others from having a good time sucks ass too. So for a while, don't drink in front of him. In time you'll be able to.
The thing about current alcoholics is spot on. It's just a rage thing. It's like ground glass being rubbed in as a reminder of your own failures. And there are a ton of little things. Like sugar cravings. I had them for years. Or how much I can get sick of ice tea. Or the urge I had to just punch a waiter because he kept coming over to ask if I wanted something alcoholic to drink. "Wouldn't you love a nice beer? Or we have a special on margaritas..." six times during a meal. Especially when I would have really killed for a big tall glass of vodka.
My mom texted me and said that my Oldest brother told her that he's an alcoholic and is living sober now. His fiancé helped him reach this conclusion
Whelp
is he actually an alcoholic?
your last sentence makes it sound like he isnt
He apparently he had a bad case of the DTs. My knee jerk reaction was to think OH OF COURSE SHE WOULD SAY THAT SHE'S TRYING TO BLAH BLAH
But then again they live together, she does really care about him, alcoholism runs, nay, gallops in my family, he's had trouble with drugs before, and I don't often get to see him so I wouldn't know either way
I cant be sure of anything but if the both of them think he shouldnt drink then I'm willing to get behind that.
is there a reason for that knee-jerk reaction eddy in terms of like stuff your brother's fiancee has said or done in the past or what
I don't think so. It was just an irrational kind of response
I mean my impression is that you don't just get the DTs. and no I quite like her. I don't know, it was all weird and sudden so I went through several internal responses over like a few minutes
DTs aren't super common. Feral would likely know better but it's under 10% of alcoholics that get actual DTs. More then half of alcoholics who quit will have some symptoms. But actual DTs are really dangerous and can be lethal. But some people use the term DTs to cover any of the withdrawal symptoms and there are a bunch. But the symptoms will show up pretty quickly after stopping. Some go away quickly, some like confusion can last a while. It's not particularly fun.
The first year is tough. There is a lot of learning who you are sober, a lot of learning how to be a sober person, and a lot of learning how to deal with social tasks. And it's an emotional roller coaster. There might be a happy alcoholic somewhere but I've never met one. There is a lot of shit that the alcohol helps you repress that's gonna come up.
any advice for me? I guess I should mostly just step up my efforts to hang out and have non drinking fun with him
if he really is an alcoholic, don't drink around him or suggest it. This sounds obvious, but by god a lot of people still do it. And be aware he will probably slip and have a drink one day, so try to support him stopping again ASAP, rather than lots of blaming etc.
The falling off the wagon part is very likely. It's super likely. Expect it. Alcoholism has a physical part but the emotional part is using it as a coping mechanism. Drink enough and often enough and you can be so very numb. And when shit gets stressful, that numbness can be appealing.
Drinking in front of him is a double edged thing. It's always a reminder of what you are. But at the same time, the feeling that your a pariah who prevents others from having a good time sucks ass too. So for a while, don't drink in front of him. In time you'll be able to.
this is great to be able to read
I'm not an alcoholic, but I was a teetotaller in college for no real reason (and am now a part of the slightly less than two drinks society when I do drink) and I can easily add on to the whole annoyance of people being 'why don't you drink' instead of just being indifferent about it. As though you are silently castigating their life choices with your own. Not that you'll be doing that, and after all you know why he isn't drinking, but it's a thing that starts to grate after awhile.
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The thing about current alcoholics is spot on. It's just a rage thing. It's like ground glass being rubbed in as a reminder of your own failures. And there are a ton of little things. Like sugar cravings. I had them for years. Or how much I can get sick of ice tea. Or the urge I had to just punch a waiter because he kept coming over to ask if I wanted something alcoholic to drink. "Wouldn't you love a nice beer? Or we have a special on margaritas..." six times during a meal. Especially when I would have really killed for a big tall glass of vodka.
The falling off the wagon part is very likely. It's super likely. Expect it. Alcoholism has a physical part but the emotional part is using it as a coping mechanism. Drink enough and often enough and you can be so very numb. And when shit gets stressful, that numbness can be appealing.
Drinking in front of him is a double edged thing. It's always a reminder of what you are. But at the same time, the feeling that your a pariah who prevents others from having a good time sucks ass too. So for a while, don't drink in front of him. In time you'll be able to.
That's kinda cool.
I think that Moore could've been making a perfectly fine point if he hadn't been retarded and thrown his ridiculous politics into it. These kinds of shootings are very rare, and we're not going to get rid of them entirely. But we very much should examine the shooting, figure out what lessons can be learned from it and see if there's anything we can realistically change. There's always room to improve.
I'm still trying to figure this out. Apparently he posted he was going to do this on some internet community.
Even 4chan would've stopped that shit.
I am currently drawing.
Small teaser; sketched idea for his gun.
EDIT: Really shitty scan, though
the one common thread through all these shootings always seems to be that the person (in retrospect) was plainly dangerous and somehow society let them slip through the cracks
not now, before anyone knows anything at all about it.
@organichu
I'm told a less fatty diet helps with that. But the thing is that you're craving comfort foods. And comfort foods tend to be fatty. Does he mention the sugar cravings? Those suck.
he also possesses a small nose
fix this pls
Ah, alcoholism. I sometimes wonder if I'll one day wake up and have some sort of negative effect for not drinking.
The thought terrifies me. I enjoy days when I'm just like 'welp, lets not have a drink at dinner or at night.' because I'll in theory get a good nights sleep.
Prettty sure I could take him, despite the MMA onesie.
Glad to hear you're o.k. though Mazzyx.
small limbs good for avoiding arm bars!
I've seen a lot of advice questions from people dating an alcoholic who says point blank "I'm fine if you drink. I won't, but it's really no big deal to see others or be around it anymore."
i want to see batbabby
this is great to be able to read
batman onesie is size 6 mos!
Pokemon Conquest is a bizarre concept.
Of course you could, dee.
*waits until Deebaser isn't looking, puts $50 on the baby*
I figure when I do, I will be an alcoholic?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma3d-YdLjCs
WELL GIVE HIM HGH THEN
I don't like labelnig size in months.
What if it's a big or small baby?
I think I'd be embarassed if I were a 5 month old and had to wear 6 month onesies, even if they did get to be Batman ones.
Not having those sucks!
methinks the lady doth protest too much!
I'm not an alcoholic, but I was a teetotaller in college for no real reason (and am now a part of the slightly less than two drinks society when I do drink) and I can easily add on to the whole annoyance of people being 'why don't you drink' instead of just being indifferent about it. As though you are silently castigating their life choices with your own. Not that you'll be doing that, and after all you know why he isn't drinking, but it's a thing that starts to grate after awhile.
I was an ugly fucking baby.
holy shit yes
hush.
I'm MiO fasting at the moment.
oh my, i am teased! So teased!
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Man.
Wow.
bwah?
whyyyyyyyyyyy
i see