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The American Presidency: The Once and Future Elections Thread

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    SammyF wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    so as a person that had a dad with a top drawer full of things that fascinated me as a kid, like an old broken pocketwatch, that I subsequently stole without a second thought, should I go ahead and inform Romney that he's found his vice president

    Yes. You've got to be a more interesting VP to everyone than Rob Portman. :mrgreen:

    The new Drudge rumor is David Patreaus, because I guess running the CIA is nothing compared to being Mitts VP.

    Never pick a Vice President who knows how to kill you and make it look like an accident.

    That's not Patreaus style, he'd send an overwhelming amount of men in, have a lot die, and then pay you off and declare victory...

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    so as a person that had a dad with a top drawer full of things that fascinated me as a kid, like an old broken pocketwatch, that I subsequently stole without a second thought, should I go ahead and inform Romney that he's found his vice president

    Yes. You've got to be a more interesting VP to everyone than Rob Portman. :mrgreen:

    The new Drudge rumor is David Patreaus, because I guess running the CIA is nothing compared to being Mitts VP.

    I can see that. Mostly because it seems no one that is a career politician actually wants to be his VP pick.

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    fugacityfugacity Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Yes, Pants, can we talk about that little nugget?

    "Looking for dad's coins that he wouldn't miss" means "Looking for loose money to steal from my father" which is not so much a humorous story as it is an admission of guilt to being a little shit.

    Now if that doesn't just speak to a whole mess of problems in that man's head.

    I'd love to see video of this. This seems like a classic slip. He starts off telling an anecdote about looking through his dad's dresser and realizes that he's about to give an age and what he was looking for. Either his upbringing was a lot more square than mine or his maturity was really off. When I was a little kid, I got yelled at for hiding jewelry I found in my parents stuff (playing pirates I think). Being much older, late teens to twenties, is way too old to be doing this, unless you really were after "coins".

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/obama-ahead-in-colorado.html

    Yeah the Quin/NY Time poll definately seems really off, I mean even with PPP being a lib pollster I don't think they'd be this off.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    http://youtu.be/rYCE8N79YoQ

    Obama pounding romney on ladies issues. This ad combined with having Sandra Fluke introduce him today in Colorado definately see's the campaign taking a stand on Women's rights in a way I can't recall coming from a dem in a long time.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    To be fair, a Democrat taking a stand is rare enough on its own. It being on an actual, important issue is just gravy.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Well its a culture war thing, the beltway always leads with "These are GOP Issues dems STAY AWAY" but this year Obama keeps pinging these issues, womens rights, gay marriage, immigration, welfare. And the best Romney can do is lie about Obama's stances.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    Paladin wrote: »
    so as a person that had a dad with a top drawer full of things that fascinated me as a kid, like an old broken pocketwatch, that I subsequently stole without a second thought, should I go ahead and inform Romney that he's found his vice president

    Yes. You've got to be a more interesting VP to everyone than Rob Portman. :mrgreen:

    There was this "golden" box in one of my parent's drawers (It was actually this huge deadbolt it turned out) that had some clinging in it. One day my parents were taking a nap and my little bro and I sledgehammered the hell out of it to get to the "treasure" aka the keys for the deadbolt.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Well its a culture war thing, the beltway always leads with "These are GOP Issues dems STAY AWAY" but this year Obama keeps pinging these issues, womens rights, gay marriage, immigration, welfare. And the best Romney can do is lie about Obama's stances.

    The Democrats better keep this up after Obama's left office. The country desperately needs a competent opposition party to keep the Republicans in check.

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    Edith_Bagot-DixEdith_Bagot-Dix Registered User regular
    fugacity wrote: »
    Yes, Pants, can we talk about that little nugget?

    "Looking for dad's coins that he wouldn't miss" means "Looking for loose money to steal from my father" which is not so much a humorous story as it is an admission of guilt to being a little shit.

    Now if that doesn't just speak to a whole mess of problems in that man's head.

    I'd love to see video of this. This seems like a classic slip. He starts off telling an anecdote about looking through his dad's dresser and realizes that he's about to give an age and what he was looking for. Either his upbringing was a lot more square than mine or his maturity was really off. When I was a little kid, I got yelled at for hiding jewelry I found in my parents stuff (playing pirates I think). Being much older, late teens to twenties, is way too old to be doing this, unless you really were after "coins".

    I assume Romney was talking about Krugerrands, not the sort of bullshit change little people have.



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    SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    @PantsB -- I'm nominating you to go over to the NY Times website and post a comment about Quinnipiac's sample since they consider it front page news. And since I apparently can't remember my password, and the password reminder/reset function on their website is broken.

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    sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    fugacity wrote: »
    Yes, Pants, can we talk about that little nugget?

    "Looking for dad's coins that he wouldn't miss" means "Looking for loose money to steal from my father" which is not so much a humorous story as it is an admission of guilt to being a little shit.

    Now if that doesn't just speak to a whole mess of problems in that man's head.

    I'd love to see video of this. This seems like a classic slip. He starts off telling an anecdote about looking through his dad's dresser and realizes that he's about to give an age and what he was looking for. Either his upbringing was a lot more square than mine or his maturity was really off. When I was a little kid, I got yelled at for hiding jewelry I found in my parents stuff (playing pirates I think). Being much older, late teens to twenties, is way too old to be doing this, unless you really were after "coins".

    I assume Romney was talking about Krugerrands, not the sort of bullshit change little people have.

    "Well, they were mostly double eagles, but I think some krugs were mixed in there".

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Newt Gingrich continues to be Newt Gingrich.
    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/newt-calls-obama-the-anti-clinton-alleges-welfare-conspiracy.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
    Newt Gingrich accused President Obama on Wednesday of a secret “radical” plot to end work requirements in welfare reform, brushing aside denials from both the Republican architect of the 1996 bill and the Democratic president who signed it into law.

    “I think on the hard left, there is an unending desire to create a dependent America,” Gingrich said.

    “It’s not just that Obama is a radical, it’s that the people he appoints are more radical,” he said.” Gingrich also accused Secretary of Health and Human Service Kathleen Sebelius of lying when she pledged to veto state requests to water down work requirements in welfare.

    Gingrich joined Mitt Romney and other Republican leaders in contrasting former President Bill Clinton, whom they now hold up as a model of bipartisanship, with Obama.

    “In many ways Obama is the anti-Clinton,” Gingrich, who clashed frequently with the president as speaker of the House in the 1990s, told reporters. “Clinton tried to move the party to the center, Obama’s moved it to the left.”

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    OBAMA IS A FUCKING CENTER LEFTIST, YOU GODDAMN IDIOT!

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    "I haven't personally eaten at these 'Golden Arches,' but I am good friends with the man who built El Dorado."

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/08/658311/romney-spokesperson-touts-the-health-care-benefits-he-seeks-to-repeal/
    Mitt Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul appeared on Fox News Wednesday morning to criticize a controversial Priorities USA ad, which implies that the former Bain Capital executive is to blame for a woman’s death after her husband was laid off by the company. But in absolving Romney of responsibility, Saul awkwardly embraced the individual mandate and other provisions in the Massachusetts health care law that Romney has pledged to repeal for the nation as part of his attack on Obamacare.

    Saul insisted that Romney was not in charge of Bain when the woman lost her job and employer-sponsored health insurance coverage — and died from cancer years later — but suggested that she would have been eligible for government-subsidized insurance under Romneycare:
    SAUL: To that point, you know, if people had been in Massachusetts under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care. There are a lot of people losing their jobs and their health care in President Obama’s economy.
    So goddamn bad at this.

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    SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Newt Gingrich continues to be Newt Gingrich.
    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/newt-calls-obama-the-anti-clinton-alleges-welfare-conspiracy.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
    Newt Gingrich accused President Obama on Wednesday of a secret “radical” plot to end work requirements in welfare reform, brushing aside denials from both the Republican architect of the 1996 bill and the Democratic president who signed it into law.

    “I think on the hard left, there is an unending desire to create a dependent America,” Gingrich said.

    “It’s not just that Obama is a radical, it’s that the people he appoints are more radical,” he said.” Gingrich also accused Secretary of Health and Human Service Kathleen Sebelius of lying when she pledged to veto state requests to water down work requirements in welfare.

    Gingrich joined Mitt Romney and other Republican leaders in contrasting former President Bill Clinton, whom they now hold up as a model of bipartisanship, with Obama.

    “In many ways Obama is the anti-Clinton,” Gingrich, who clashed frequently with the president as speaker of the House in the 1990s, told reporters. “Clinton tried to move the party to the center, Obama’s moved it to the left.”

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    OBAMA IS A FUCKING CENTER LEFTIST, YOU GODDAMN IDIOT!

    The man writes revisionist historical fiction for a living. Guy's just doing what he knows.

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    Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    fugacity wrote: »
    Yes, Pants, can we talk about that little nugget?

    "Looking for dad's coins that he wouldn't miss" means "Looking for loose money to steal from my father" which is not so much a humorous story as it is an admission of guilt to being a little shit.

    Now if that doesn't just speak to a whole mess of problems in that man's head.

    I'd love to see video of this. This seems like a classic slip. He starts off telling an anecdote about looking through his dad's dresser and realizes that he's about to give an age and what he was looking for. Either his upbringing was a lot more square than mine or his maturity was really off. When I was a little kid, I got yelled at for hiding jewelry I found in my parents stuff (playing pirates I think). Being much older, late teens to twenties, is way too old to be doing this, unless you really were after "coins".

    People keep assuming "coins" is code for porn.

    But for Romney, money is porn. The curve of those DD quarters, the clandestine tryst with his secret, kinked 2-dollar bill...oooooooh, yeah.

    Wrapping a Franklin around his Johnson. Money. Green. Good. Mmmmm. Profits rising, collecting interest. Soon, now. Looking for a shell corporation to collect the blast.

    It's happening. He cries out.
    "END OF GROOOOAAAATTTT!"

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Not revisionist history but moving goalposts, IMO. As the Republicans slide farther and farther right, they redefine where the center is to keep themselves just sorta-kinda right but not too far.

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    El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited August 2012
    I'm not really sure where I can put this, but since Mittens wants to bring down the ACA I guess it's an election issue...

    I was watching a tv show last night (ny medics or something?), and some woman was diagnosed with breast cancer. Upon hearing the news, the first thing she uttered was not "oh my god I'm going to die" or "you want to remove my breast?"... it was "Oh my god I'm going to lose my job." The nurses filling out paperwork were like "let's not put 'Cancer' on there- how about 'a serious illness'" in order to try and help the woman out.

    ... As someone who is not American, this seems unbelievably messed up. In Canada, my experience and understanding is that employers tend to be very helpful and understanding if there is something seriously wrong, and if you had to miss work due to treatments or had to take extended absences you still get them, paid (to some extent). I can't imagine having to worry about my job if anything like this ever happened to me.

    Can anyone enlighten me if the ACA will help with this type of "getting fired for having Cancer" thing, since as I understand it medical benefits no longer need to fall under an individual's job? Or is this just a symptom of crappy or non-existent labour laws that will continue on unabated?

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    fugacityfugacity Registered User regular
    fugacity wrote: »
    Yes, Pants, can we talk about that little nugget?

    "Looking for dad's coins that he wouldn't miss" means "Looking for loose money to steal from my father" which is not so much a humorous story as it is an admission of guilt to being a little shit.

    Now if that doesn't just speak to a whole mess of problems in that man's head.

    I'd love to see video of this. This seems like a classic slip. He starts off telling an anecdote about looking through his dad's dresser and realizes that he's about to give an age and what he was looking for. Either his upbringing was a lot more square than mine or his maturity was really off. When I was a little kid, I got yelled at for hiding jewelry I found in my parents stuff (playing pirates I think). Being much older, late teens to twenties, is way too old to be doing this, unless you really were after "coins".

    I assume Romney was talking about Krugerrands, not the sort of bullshit change little people have.

    Wouldn't Romney then have been panty raiding... I mean pantry raiding.

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    tuxkamentuxkamen really took this picture. Registered User regular
    ...you know, considering his father, I don't think we should discount that there were actually, you know, doubloons or something in there.

    I think most kids look through their parents' drawers/closets at some point, just for curiosity's sake. I know I did. Worst thing I ever found was an unloaded derringer. (That mysteriously went away after I found it. :/)


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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    You can lose your job for having a long term illness outside of a state statute in america being employed is a privledge your employer can take away for any reason they choose. I don't believe ACA did anything to stop that kind of thing from happening.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Preacher wrote: »
    You can lose your job for having a long term illness outside of a state statute in america being employed is a privledge your employer can take away for any reason they choose. I don't believe ACA did anything to stop that kind of thing from happening.

    I guess the ACA'll help in that now that people who are newly unemployed still have medical coverage, so that they can...you know... get treatment and reenter the workforce.

    But man, there is not enough D: in the world for this.

    Thanks Preacher.

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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    You can lose your job for having a long term illness outside of a state statute in america being employed is a privledge your employer can take away for any reason they choose. I don't believe ACA did anything to stop that kind of thing from happening.

    Yeah, and for many people missing even a single day of work will get them fired so getting a cancer diagnoses where she'll probably be out of work for weeks if not months could very well leave her in the jobless category.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/02/627011/author-romney-cited-on-culture-says-romney-didnt-read-his-book/
    In making his controversial argument that “culture” was the main reason Israelis were wealthier than Palestinians, Mitt Romney cited two authors who had written major works on the wealth of nations, Daniel Landes and Jared Diamond. The latter took to the New York Times op-ed page on Thursday to clear the record, saying Romney’s account of his argument was wildly inaccurate. While Romney saw Diamond as arguing that “physical characteristics of the land” like iron deposits were the key determinants of a nation’s success, Diamond’s book Guns, Germs, and Steel instead emphasizes water access, local plant and animal life, and geographical features like latitude as being determinative. Diamond calls Romney’s interpretation “so different from what my book actually says that I have to doubt whether Mr. Romney read it.”

    But, in Diamond’s view, this misrepresentation isn’t “the worst part.” Rather, it was his reduction of an immensely complex subject to a simplistic, one-word explanation:
    Even scholars who emphasize social rather than geographic explanations — like the Harvard economist David S. Landes, whose book “The Wealth and Poverty of Nations” was mentioned favorably by Mr. Romney — would find Mr. Romney’s statement that “culture makes all the difference” dangerously out of date. In fact, Mr. Landes analyzed multiple factors (including climate) in explaining why the industrial revolution first occurred in Europe and not elsewhere.

    Just as a happy marriage depends on many different factors, so do national wealth and power. That is not to deny culture’s significance. Some countries have political institutions and cultural practices — honest government, rule of law, opportunities to accumulate money — that reward hard work. Others don’t. Familiar examples are the contrasts between neighboring countries sharing similar environments but with very different institutions. (Think of South Korea versus North Korea, or Haiti versus the Dominican Republic.) Rich, powerful countries tend to have good institutions that reward hard work. But institutions and culture aren’t the whole answer, because some countries notorious for bad institutions (like Italy and Argentina) are rich, while some virtuous countries (like Tanzania and Bhutan) are poor.

    Diamond concludes on an even harsher note, saying “Mitt Romney may become our next president. Will he continue to espouse one-factor explanations for multicausal problems, and fail to understand history and the modern world? If so, he will preside over a declining nation squandering its advantages of location and history.” This isn’t the first time scholars of national wealth have repudiated Romney’s remarks — Daron Acemoglu and James Robinson, authors of the seminal Why Nations Fail, also argued that Mitt got the subject wrong, saying “Mitt should do some more reading.”
    Oh, Romney.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    El Skid wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    You can lose your job for having a long term illness outside of a state statute in america being employed is a privledge your employer can take away for any reason they choose. I don't believe ACA did anything to stop that kind of thing from happening.

    I guess the ACA'll help in that now that people who are newly unemployed still have medical coverage, so that they can...you know... get treatment and reenter the workforce.

    But man, there is not enough D: in the world for this.

    Thanks Preacher.

    Not really, I mean sure if you paying your premiums you can still in theory get health coverage, but if you lose your job that becomes harder to do. Especially if you lose your job due to your health problems. And ACA encourages more companies to supply healthcare, which ties it to your job more, which puts you in a worse spot for losing it and your job.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Preacher wrote: »
    El Skid wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    You can lose your job for having a long term illness outside of a state statute in america being employed is a privledge your employer can take away for any reason they choose. I don't believe ACA did anything to stop that kind of thing from happening.

    I guess the ACA'll help in that now that people who are newly unemployed still have medical coverage, so that they can...you know... get treatment and reenter the workforce.

    But man, there is not enough D: in the world for this.

    Thanks Preacher.

    Not really, I mean sure if you paying your premiums you can still in theory get health coverage, but if you lose your job that becomes harder to do. Especially if you lose your job due to your health problems. And ACA encourages more companies to supply healthcare, which ties it to your job more, which puts you in a worse spot for losing it and your job.

    At least you can't be outright denied coverage for the pre-existing condition though.

    And from a local TV station
    Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker will be a featured speaker at the upcoming GOP convention.

    Priebus told Greta Van Susteren on the Fox News Channel Tuesday night that Walker will have a "very prominent" role during the convention in Tampa, Fla., later this month. Priebus says the committee is working with the Mitt Romney campaign on the convention speaking schedule.

    Walker at the republican convention, with a very prominent role? Walker for the VP?

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    I'm not from Wisconsin, I don't live in Wisconsin, but if Walker isn't in Wisconsin the country is better for it.

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    SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    El Skid wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    You can lose your job for having a long term illness outside of a state statute in america being employed is a privledge your employer can take away for any reason they choose. I don't believe ACA did anything to stop that kind of thing from happening.

    I guess the ACA'll help in that now that people who are newly unemployed still have medical coverage, so that they can...you know... get treatment and reenter the workforce.

    But man, there is not enough D: in the world for this.

    Thanks Preacher.

    Not really, I mean sure if you paying your premiums you can still in theory get health coverage, but if you lose your job that becomes harder to do. Especially if you lose your job due to your health problems. And ACA encourages more companies to supply healthcare, which ties it to your job more, which puts you in a worse spot for losing it and your job.

    There will at least (hopefully) be something cost-competitive that you can buy on your state's exchange if you do lose your job, and they won't be able to deny you coverage for the preexisting condition. Right now in America, the only answer to this lady's problem is to pretend she doesn't have cancer for as long as possible, and then pay out the nose for COBRA once she gets fired. The only other option is to lie down and die.

    But yes I'd prefer single payer for reasons like this.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    SammyF wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    El Skid wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    You can lose your job for having a long term illness outside of a state statute in america being employed is a privledge your employer can take away for any reason they choose. I don't believe ACA did anything to stop that kind of thing from happening.

    I guess the ACA'll help in that now that people who are newly unemployed still have medical coverage, so that they can...you know... get treatment and reenter the workforce.

    But man, there is not enough D: in the world for this.

    Thanks Preacher.

    Not really, I mean sure if you paying your premiums you can still in theory get health coverage, but if you lose your job that becomes harder to do. Especially if you lose your job due to your health problems. And ACA encourages more companies to supply healthcare, which ties it to your job more, which puts you in a worse spot for losing it and your job.

    There will at least (hopefully) be something cost-competitive that you can buy on your state's exchange if you do lose your job, and they won't be able to deny you coverage for the preexisting condition. Right now in America, the only answer to this lady's problem is to pretend she doesn't have cancer for as long as possible, and then pay out the nose for COBRA once she gets fired. The only other option is to lie down and die.

    But yes I'd prefer single payer for reasons like this.

    If your state sets up the exchanges, if they don't the fed will have to do it, and god knows how long that will take. And again you still have to pay for that insurance with something, and if you just got fired you will not have that money to pay.

    And yes thats why single payer is a billion times better.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    I'm not from Wisconsin, I don't live in Wisconsin, but if Walker isn't in Wisconsin the country is better for it.

    We've still got Kleefisch under him who is even bigger about cronyism and the current republican ideals, but right now Wisconsin is completely deadlocked with the democrats in control of the senate so whereever Walker is doesn't really matter anymore.

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    XobyteXobyte Registered User regular
    Yeah, but if you lose your income, then you qualify for medicare.

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    TheCanManTheCanMan GT: Gasman122009 JerseyRegistered User regular
    I found my dad's "coins" in the top drawer of his dresser (presumably, they were up there because I couldn't reach a drawer that high) . It was a bunch of jpgs on a 3 1/2" floppy. Up until that point, that may have been the greatest day of my life. It probably took our 286 a solid 7 or 8 minutes to load each one. This was back when "large" images were loaded a pixel at a time. For the kids out there, first you'd get a really blurry image consisting of several big blocks. Then each block would slowly come into focus. It was such an excruciating tease.

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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Newt Gingrich continues to be Newt Gingrich.
    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/newt-calls-obama-the-anti-clinton-alleges-welfare-conspiracy.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
    Newt Gingrich accused President Obama on Wednesday of a secret “radical” plot to end work requirements in welfare reform, brushing aside denials from both the Republican architect of the 1996 bill and the Democratic president who signed it into law.

    “I think on the hard left, there is an unending desire to create a dependent America,” Gingrich said.

    “It’s not just that Obama is a radical, it’s that the people he appoints are more radical,” he said.” Gingrich also accused Secretary of Health and Human Service Kathleen Sebelius of lying when she pledged to veto state requests to water down work requirements in welfare.

    Gingrich joined Mitt Romney and other Republican leaders in contrasting former President Bill Clinton, whom they now hold up as a model of bipartisanship, with Obama.

    “In many ways Obama is the anti-Clinton,” Gingrich, who clashed frequently with the president as speaker of the House in the 1990s, told reporters. “Clinton tried to move the party to the center, Obama’s moved it to the left.”

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    OBAMA IS A FUCKING CENTER LEFTIST, YOU GODDAMN IDIOT!

    Does anyone else find it ironic that Newt Gingrich is singing praises about Clinton? It just boggles my mind.

    Thinking back earlier in the thread, David Petraeus would be a great choice for vp, compared to the others. As far as I'm aware he doesn't have a bad rep with the general populace, could help with getting independents considering he worked for Obama, and brings a lot of military credibility that the GOP really needs with Romney against Obama. On the other side, I would not want to give up my Director of CIA job to roll the dice on being president, especially with such a weak GOP candidate.

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    Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    Except as far as I know he's given absolutely no indication that he's willing to enter politics on either side.

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    tuxkamen wrote: »
    ...you know, considering his father, I don't think we should discount that there were actually, you know, doubloons or something in there.

    I think most kids look through their parents' drawers/closets at some point, just for curiosity's sake. I know I did. Worst thing I ever found was an unloaded derringer. (That mysteriously went away after I found it. :/)

    It's not the looking through stuff, it's the looking for "a coin my father wouldn't miss" bit. Everyone looks through their parents things, but it takes a little shit to steal from their parents.

    But it's just another humorous story!

    Maybe he needed the cash so he could buy some hair clippers.


    It's just another brick in my massive wall of "Why Mitt Romney is a Dick".

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Xobyte wrote: »
    Yeah, but if you lose your income, then you qualify for medicare.

    You mean the demon program that enslaves americans that the GOP loves to slash the shit out of?

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    I found my dad's "coins" in the top drawer of his dresser (presumably, they were up there because I couldn't reach a drawer that high) . It was a bunch of jpgs on a 3 1/2" floppy. Up until that point, that may have been the greatest day of my life. It probably took our 286 a solid 7 or 8 minutes to load each one. This was back when "large" images were loaded a pixel at a time. For the kids out there, first you'd get a really blurry image consisting of several big blocks. Then each block would slowly come into focus. It was such an excruciating tease.

    Internet porn was so much more rewarding, and horrible at that time.

    "Good face... Oh wonderful breasts... come on show me the good stuff.... DICK! delete"

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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    Except as far as I know he's given absolutely no indication that he's willing to enter politics on either side.

    Which is why I don't think he will actually do it, just that if they could get him it would be probably the best possible candidate they could get. Hell, our do nothing Congress that blocks everything unanimously voted him in to be Director.

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    SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Xobyte wrote: »
    Yeah, but if you lose your income, then you qualify for medicare.

    I need to see the language they end up using to determine how someone qualifies, but depending on when you get fired and what your income level was when you had a job, you might actually end up getting completely fucked for the balance of that year.

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