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Holy Crap they finished the KOTOR II Restoration Mod
I was about to give up on this one too, but they released version 1.8 of TSLRCM a few days ago. This will be the final version, they say they are done! You can get it here.
This one only started in 2009, just as the previous restoration mod, Team Gizka, completely fizzled out after years of slowing down. The changelist is huge but the basic aim is to fix bugs and restore the cut content that plagued this game. Anyone who was played it knows that it has a few...gaps. Especially the end planet, a lot of stuff stops making sense.
Here's an interview with the team lead. Apparently he's working on one more separate mod to bring back the droid planet M4-78EP, but that sounds like it's less restoration and more creating new stuff.
GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Yessss...I've been waiting for this to finish up before I fired up KoToR II again.
As much as I loved, adored, fawned over and beat the original KoToR four times, I've never beaten KoToR II, because I wanted to save it until I could experience the full restore.
Wow, I gave up on this so long ago. I ended up just reading the Let's Play with Jesus Jedi and his dual wielding blasters. Come on Black Mesa...............
Were there any major snags in development? How many bugs did you fix?
As for snags… well, there were times when project was proceeding slower for number of reasons; exams, real life issues, getting tired of a game you’re working on for years, but we eventually always got back up to speed. As for number of bugs fixed – no idea what the exact number is, but it’s easly over 500, haha. Just check out our readme for changelog since last version – I’m not going to count how many issues it lists, but it’s huge. And remember that it’s just since last version!
Was KotoR II up on the Steam sale? If so, this is perfect timing.
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Were there any major snags in development? How many bugs did you fix?
As for snags… well, there were times when project was proceeding slower for number of reasons; exams, real life issues, getting tired of a game you’re working on for years, but we eventually always got back up to speed. As for number of bugs fixed – no idea what the exact number is, but it’s easly over 500, haha. Just check out our readme for changelog since last version – I’m not going to count how many issues it lists, but it’s huge. And remember that it’s just since last version!
Was KotoR II up on the Steam sale? If so, this is perfect timing.
No, as far as I know, KOTOR II has never been released digitally.
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I used one of the in-progress restoration mods. It still had its share of odd timing / syncing that seems to plague fan-projects. Still, a lot of the restored stuff for KotOR 2 is goddamn incredible.
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I never actually bought or played KOTOR II back in the day, so I definitely agree! Is there a preferred (cheap) way to buy KOTOR II at this point, besides Amazon ($14)? If not, I consider $14 to be a pretty good price, it just "feels" expensive after Steam sales.
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MongerI got the ham stink.Dallas, TXRegistered Userregular
Wait, 1.8 is actually the final version? Huh. So I guess no one's going to do the Genoharadan stuff, then? I know Gizka was working on it, but you saw what happened there. Oh, well. M4-78 is still on, and I didn't really think anyone would manage to make that happen, given how little content seemed to be available for it.
In any case, to reiterate what I said in the Steam thread:
Fuck. I never got around to replaying KotOR 2 with the restored content mod, and now you're telling me that it got updated and is even more restorative? Why would you do that to me? Do you know how many games I just picked up in the sale? Because I don't! It was probably like a thousand. I have like one thousand games to play and you want me to replay KotOR 2. Which I have played like 12 times. You are a jerk.
GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
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As far as I know, KoToR II was never (legally) released digitally. There were rumors that once KoToR hit Steam, KoToR II would follow, but it never materialized.
I checked my preferred brick & mortar last year, and they had a couple of unopened copies of KotOR II. Not sure if I even installed it last time there was a big update to one of the restoration projects.
No time like the present to install a really old game.
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MongerI got the ham stink.Dallas, TXRegistered Userregular
Yeah, I've seen new copies at my local Best Buy here and there. The game still seems to be around.
I thought this was finished a while ago? I remember postings of it all over the internet.
I played whatever version that was and realized most of the restored content was cut for a reason and not for time. of course there was some stuff that improved the experience but then there where also things like the droid factory which was overly long, had minimal story and felt like something that would have been cut because it ran counter to fun.
edit: they did just release a retail box with kotor 1/2 in it so now's the perfect time to play it i suppose.
Poor Obsidian, always getting screwed over somehow. First it was KotOR 2 due to being rushed out by LucasArts, then Alpha Protocol being overlooked by a great many people, and lately with the Fallout: New Vegas Metacritic bonus debacle. It's about time this sucker was finished up so people can actually play the best Star Wars game the way it was always meant to be.
Yeah, they never learn from any of their, numerous, previous mistakes.
Like agreeing to develop and release a Star Wars sequel in less than a year. (100% Lucas fault, right?)
Instead they keep on signing not-so-beneficial contract.
Poor them.
A metacritic score? Seriously? Why did you think that was a good idea?
Wait, 1.8 is actually the final version? Huh. So I guess no one's going to do the Genoharadan stuff, then? I know Gizka was working on it, but you saw what happened there. Oh, well. M4-78 is still on, and I didn't really think anyone would manage to make that happen, given how little content seemed to be available for it.
By the looks of the content notes, they didn't restore the Genoharadan stuff because there is already another mod that restores just that part of the game.
Wait, 1.8 is actually the final version? Huh. So I guess no one's going to do the Genoharadan stuff, then? I know Gizka was working on it, but you saw what happened there. Oh, well. M4-78 is still on, and I didn't really think anyone would manage to make that happen, given how little content seemed to be available for it.
By the looks of the content notes, they didn't restore the Genoharadan stuff because there is already another mod that restores just that part of the game.
Is that mod compatible with this mod? Because I could run them together and then make it run in widescreen
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
I guess I'll finally have to get around to buying a PC version.
Wait, 1.8 is actually the final version? Huh. So I guess no one's going to do the Genoharadan stuff, then? I know Gizka was working on it, but you saw what happened there. Oh, well. M4-78 is still on, and I didn't really think anyone would manage to make that happen, given how little content seemed to be available for it.
By the looks of the content notes, they didn't restore the Genoharadan stuff because there is already another mod that restores just that part of the game.
Is that mod compatible with this mod? Because I could run them together and then make it run in widescreen
I thought this was finished a while ago? I remember postings of it all over the internet.
I played whatever version that was and realized most of the restored content was cut for a reason and not for time. of course there was some stuff that improved the experience but then there where also things like the droid factory which was overly long, had minimal story and felt like something that would have been cut because it ran counter to fun.
edit: they did just release a retail box with kotor 1/2 in it so now's the perfect time to play it i suppose.
You're right. It was first released publicly back in 2009, this is just the final update. The OP seems to have confused that date with the date they started, which is wrong, they started around about the same time as Team Gizka. I guess some people completely missed the first release (and other updates) if they'd given up on it.
I'll probably just wait for the droid planet before playing through the game again. Hopefully the new content doesn't seem amateurish in comparison to Obsidian's work and they actually manage to get it kinda consistent.
I thought this was finished a while ago? I remember postings of it all over the internet.
I played whatever version that was and realized most of the restored content was cut for a reason and not for time. of course there was some stuff that improved the experience but then there where also things like the droid factory which was overly long, had minimal story and felt like something that would have been cut because it ran counter to fun.
edit: they did just release a retail box with kotor 1/2 in it so now's the perfect time to play it i suppose.
You're right. It was first released publicly back in 2009, this is just the final update. The OP seems to have confused that date with the date they started, which is wrong, they started around about the same time as Team Gizka. I guess some people completely missed the first release (and other updates) if they'd given up on it.
I'll probably just wait for the droid planet before playing through the game again. Hopefully the new content doesn't seem amateurish in comparison to Obsidian's work and they actually manage to get it kinda consistent.
Nah, in the interview I linked the lead said that shortly after they started, Team Gizka folded. And yeah, TSLRCM has had other public releases, but this is the only one they've said is final.
Please pull your heads out of your arses and release this game digitally.
Hate, EVOL.
Seriously though, why haven't they released this game digitally so far?
Same reason they haven't released X-Wing, or TIE Fighter, or X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter, or Rebel Assault, or Rebel Assault 2, or Shadows of the Empire, or Galactic Battlegrounds, or Yoda Stories, or Rebellion, or Rogue Squadron, or Episode I Racer, or Force Commander(eh, maybe not so much Force Commander...)
Because fuck you, that's why!
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For a company that shares the name of a guy who likes to re-release crap he did decades ago, LucasArts sure is stingy as fuck about re-releasing old products made to work on new machines.
Shame on you for not mentioning any of their adventure games by the way, or Afterlife.
For a company that shares the name of a guy who likes to re-release crap he did decades ago, LucasArts sure is stingy as fuck about re-releasing old products made to work on new machines.
Shame on you for not mentioning any of their adventure games by the way, or Afterlife.
'cause it's a Star Wars(y) thread, I wanted to keep some semblance of staying on topic.
For a company that shares the name of a guy who likes to re-release crap he did decades ago, LucasArts sure is stingy as fuck about re-releasing old products made to work on new machines.
Shame on you for not mentioning any of their adventure games by the way, or Afterlife.
I think the sole change to the new KOTOR 1&2 pack is that they now officially play nice with Windows 7
But yeah, most of the Star Wars games have been re-packaged a ton of times, while legit copies of games like Grim Fandango are much harder to find.
As much as I fucking love this game, any time I feel like playing, I just end up reading Scorchy's Let's Play.
Kreia is still my favorite female character of all time. And HK-47. And Canderous. And Jolee (Kotor1, but whatever). And the Revan retcon was good. And the Exile was great too.
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There are several LucasArts games that I would buy again, if they released them digitally.
They should shut up and take my money.
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Most of the reason why we don't have those old Star Wars games is due to licensing and whatnot. I know that's the reason behind the whole X-Wing family not being remade and re-released officially.
And Force Commander is a great game! Don't you say nothing more out of your goose mouth, you heathen!
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As much as I loved, adored, fawned over and beat the original KoToR four times, I've never beaten KoToR II, because I wanted to save it until I could experience the full restore.
It is time!
Was KotoR II up on the Steam sale? If so, this is perfect timing.
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No, as far as I know, KOTOR II has never been released digitally.
Man, how old is your PC?
I never actually bought or played KOTOR II back in the day, so I definitely agree! Is there a preferred (cheap) way to buy KOTOR II at this point, besides Amazon ($14)? If not, I consider $14 to be a pretty good price, it just "feels" expensive after Steam sales.
In any case, to reiterate what I said in the Steam thread:
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
Find them discs, or order it from Amazon.
No time like the present to install a really old game.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
I played whatever version that was and realized most of the restored content was cut for a reason and not for time. of course there was some stuff that improved the experience but then there where also things like the droid factory which was overly long, had minimal story and felt like something that would have been cut because it ran counter to fun.
edit: they did just release a retail box with kotor 1/2 in it so now's the perfect time to play it i suppose.
Hoooo boy, did it ever.
Nice to hear they finished it. Now if only it would go up on Steam.
It deserves to, being the superior game to fallout 3
Why wouldn't it be? What other game do you get to work directly for Walt Disney as he leads us into tomorrowland?
Anyway - love that this finally came out. Gonna have to give KOTOR 2 another playthrough at some point.
They got an 84.
Like agreeing to develop and release a Star Wars sequel in less than a year. (100% Lucas fault, right?)
Instead they keep on signing not-so-beneficial contract.
Poor them.
A metacritic score? Seriously? Why did you think that was a good idea?
I'm stuck with a netbook for the time being that has no CD/DVD drive. I imagine it would actually run the game if I could install it. Maybe
By the looks of the content notes, they didn't restore the Genoharadan stuff because there is already another mod that restores just that part of the game.
Is that mod compatible with this mod? Because I could run them together and then make it run in widescreen
http://deadlystream.com/forum/forum/4-tslrcm/
You're right. It was first released publicly back in 2009, this is just the final update. The OP seems to have confused that date with the date they started, which is wrong, they started around about the same time as Team Gizka. I guess some people completely missed the first release (and other updates) if they'd given up on it.
I'll probably just wait for the droid planet before playing through the game again. Hopefully the new content doesn't seem amateurish in comparison to Obsidian's work and they actually manage to get it kinda consistent.
Nah, in the interview I linked the lead said that shortly after they started, Team Gizka folded. And yeah, TSLRCM has had other public releases, but this is the only one they've said is final.
Please pull your heads out of your arses and release this game digitally.
Hate, EVOL.
Seriously though, why haven't they released this game digitally so far?
Same reason they haven't released X-Wing, or TIE Fighter, or X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter, or Rebel Assault, or Rebel Assault 2, or Shadows of the Empire, or Galactic Battlegrounds, or Yoda Stories, or Rebellion, or Rogue Squadron, or Episode I Racer, or Force Commander(eh, maybe not so much Force Commander...)
Because fuck you, that's why!
Shame on you for not mentioning any of their adventure games by the way, or Afterlife.
'cause it's a Star Wars(y) thread, I wanted to keep some semblance of staying on topic.
I think the sole change to the new KOTOR 1&2 pack is that they now officially play nice with Windows 7
But yeah, most of the Star Wars games have been re-packaged a ton of times, while legit copies of games like Grim Fandango are much harder to find.
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Kreia is still my favorite female character of all time. And HK-47. And Canderous. And Jolee (Kotor1, but whatever). And the Revan retcon was good. And the Exile was great too.
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There are several LucasArts games that I would buy again, if they released them digitally.
They should shut up and take my money.
And Force Commander is a great game! Don't you say nothing more out of your goose mouth, you heathen!