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My girlfriend doesn't have English as her first language, but would like to read more books in English (as opposed to translations). She's not stupid, so doesn't want to read 'simple' books. I was thinking about things along the lines of modern/early modern classics?
The Steve Jobs book, by Walter Isaacson, doesn’t have a really complicated vocabulary and doesn’t go deep into technical terminology. It’s a little long, but it’s so interesting that I can’t put it down.
I struggle with English at times too, but I recently found the dictionary feature in my e-reader where I highlight a word I don’t understand in the text and a little dictionary with a definition pops up. You can even search Wikipedia for related articles. It’s great for learning!
My girlfriend doesn't have English as her first language, but would like to read more books in English (as opposed to translations). She's not stupid, so doesn't want to read 'simple' books. I was thinking about things along the lines of modern/early modern classics?
Is she interested at all in fantasy/fairytale type books? One of my favorite books is Howl's Moving Castle. It was written for "young readers" but it is still a good book to me - but this is because I like both fairy tales and sarcasm, two things the book does excellently.
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But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
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Arthur Conan Doyle had a fairly populist writing style, as did H. G. Wells (check the author when getting The Invisible Man, as the other one is... intense), Bram Stoker, Mark Twain, and Wilkie Collins. I've heard that John Banville has a pretty clear style. Due to the need to cater to populations of varying strength in English, post-colonial authors tend to be very accessible as long as you allow for some regional lingo. I have a M. G. Vassanji next to me, and a random page seems to have fairly easy prose.
I'll also second Hemingway and add in the Seamus Heaney version of Beowulf.
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
Then again, I think everyone should read that book.
Best book in the English language, but not remotely comprehensible to a weak reader.
Stephen King has written a lot of good stories that only use simple prose, and as a plus, would introduce her to a lot of Americana that some authors would just assume she knows. The Harry Potter series would be another great option, although she may need to look up the occasional britishism.
Then again, I think everyone should read that book.
Best book in the English language, but not remotely comprehensible to a weak reader.
Stephen King has written a lot of good stories that only use simple prose, and as a plus, would introduce her to a lot of Americana that some authors would just assume she knows. The Harry Potter series would be another great option, although she may need to look up the occasional britishism.
Yeah, King's great.
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I was going to suggest The Hunger Games, which is very simply written but has a lot of themes that are more complex. It's pretty graphic, but if that's okay it does contain a minimal amount of specialized terminology.
The problem with Douglas Adams' works is that while it's very funny and well-constructed, from an ESL standpoint it's not so great if you aren't pretty fluent to begin with. You've got everything from special, one-use vocabulary to complicated sentence structures and idiomatic concepts used in a context that could be difficult to pick up, making really independent reading (even with a dictionary) very difficult. It's very good, but she might save it for the next level up.
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Isaac Asimov might work if she likes sci-fi. I'm not sure what exactly modern/early modern classics means, but Asimov's stuff is at least usually considered classic. He writes in a very straight-forward way, and I seem to remember him keeping the vocabulary pretty simple. Lots of dialogue.
The only issue might be the "made-up" words, where he's talking about the sci-fi elements of the stories. You generally get the idea of where the root of the word came from and what he means by the made-up word, but that might be a little trickier in her case. I mean, he doesn't just go completely ridiculous with making up his own words, but he's pretty good at it. After all, this is the guy that came up with the the word "robotics".
My Side of the Mountain is a fantastic book and while it's targeted at a younger audience is very enjoyable at any age.
It's about a boy who runs away from home and hitchhikes his way to an old plot of land his family used to own out in the mountains before they moved into the city. The story is written in a journal format and talks about him finding food, somewhere to live and training a young pet falcon he finds.
The problem with Douglas Adams' works is that while it's very funny and well-constructed, from an ESL standpoint it's not so great if you aren't pretty fluent to begin with. You've got everything from special, one-use vocabulary to complicated sentence structures and idiomatic concepts used in a context that could be difficult to pick up, making really independent reading (even with a dictionary) very difficult. It's very good, but she might save it for the next level up.
I think the Pratchett sugggestion from a few people suffers from the same 'problems', potentially.
Librarian's Neil Gaiman suggestion could be good, though. Maybe Stardust?
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Psychotic OneThe Lord of No PantsParts UnknownRegistered Userregular
I'd recommend John Dies at the End by David Wong. One of my favorite books and outside of a few words, that could be looked up easily, it is easily readable and a ton of fun.
Someone I am close to is in the same situation (ie I try to recommend her relatively simply-constructed books because ESL), and I would also warn against Pratchett. I don't think the humour is particularly easy to grasp if English is not your first language.
She has enjoyed, though:
The Picture of Dorian Grary by Oscar Wilde
Books by Michael Crichton (particularly Sphere, which is a great book if you didn't see the movie (which is terrible))
The Talented Mr Ripley
The Day of the Triffids
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My Side of the Mountain is a fantastic book and while it's targeted at a younger audience is very enjoyable at any age.
It's about a boy who runs away from home and hitchhikes his way to an old plot of land his family used to own out in the mountains before they moved into the city. The story is written in a journal format and talks about him finding food, somewhere to live and training a young pet falcon he finds.
It's not especially long but a great read.
Oh god, I loved that book as a kid. I only rediscovered it recently after finding out the author passed away.
And yeah, I don't get the Adam and Pratchett recomendations, as both seem to have a love for word play and puns that are going to be lose on a non native speaker.
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I love John Dies at the End to death, but be warned that it is horrendously gory and graphic and not for the faint of heart even a little bit.
And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
I second Great Gatsby and Steinbeck. Gatsby is a book that is fairly opaque at first read, but is also in the top 10 or so English-language books that have secondary resources to help you out. F. Scott Fitzgerald also wrote a ton of short stories also set in the jazz age that are quick and easy reads if Gatsby goes over well- I love Dice, Brass Knuckles and Guitar.
Similar resources are also available for most of the "classic american novel" authors, and some of them are much more straightforward than Hemmingway or Fitzgerald. i.e. Jack London, Steinbeck, Mark Twain. Again, short stories are great intros to the author and style. The pearl, To Build a Fire, etc.
I really enjoyed Atlas Shrugged (the story, not the ideology ) and I didn't think it was a very difficult book to read.
Isn't that a thousand page tome about politics and economics?
I'd recommend she start out with modern childrens literature (The Hobbit, Harry Potter, Wrinkle in Time) rather than jumping back to older writers like Dickens or Austen.
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A lot of classic books are available for free or dirt cheap on the Kindle store. If you or her have a kindle could be a good source of cheap books with a lot of variety.
I paged through some books on my shelf at random. Good choices (in addition to Hemingway because he is the best choice no question) include:
Invisible Man Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky's translations of Chekhov and likely Tolstoy
George Orwell (1984 and so on)
They also do Dostoyevsky. I'm reading Demons right now, it's quite good.
Kafka's short stories are also great, I like In the Penal Colony, and The Burrow. His novels are also excellent, but perhaps starting with his shorter fiction may lend to a slightly hastier review.
Robert Walser did some interesting stuff, a modernist author of the early twentieth century, he was also an influence on writers such as the aforementioned Kafka. He has various short fiction/novellas that are fairly quick and amusing to read, in that the language he uses is quite absurd and dynamic. I'd suggest The Walk, an absurd passage through the sights and sounds of a man simply walking through his own fevered interpretation of the reality he encounters. Berlin Stories is his other widely available work, though I haven't read it in a long time, so I don't have much to say about it. Even his life (Walser's) is interesting to read about really. So is Dostoyevsky I would think,
I've heard good things about Simone de Beauvoir's novel Les Belles Images about a woman who works as an advertising executive in the sixties. Perhaps if a fan of Mad Men, specifically I've read that it does the existential angst of the exec of the time in a more sublime, less 'safe' manner. Not sure though, the english edition is out of print, but Amazon probably has a seller with a copy.
Lastly, for now, Bruno Schulz's.collection of short stories Street of Crocodiles is amazing, rarely seen is such dream like, surreal prose yet dripping with the small elements of reality that contain beauty in many forms. His prose is very enchanting. It's quite tragic that he was murdered by a Nazi, and after only having written a relatively small amount of work.
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I struggle with English at times too, but I recently found the dictionary feature in my e-reader where I highlight a word I don’t understand in the text and a little dictionary with a definition pops up. You can even search Wikipedia for related articles. It’s great for learning!
After those try Freak the Mighty or The Outsiders.
To Kill a Mockingbird or A Wrinkle in Time are good ones too that would work after she gets used to the language a bit more.
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For someone without a good grasp of English this is a terrible suggestion.
Do you have a sense of what her reading level is? Other books that she's enjoyed? Simply written is a pretty wide range.
Invisible Man
Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky's translations of Chekhov and likely Tolstoy
George Orwell (1984 and so on)
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The Pratchett children's/YA books are good and so are the regular Pratchett books, these were some of the books I started reading English with.
All the books by Neil Gaiman
The Hobbit, LotR not so much
Ender's Game
Basically a lot of genre scifi/fantasy stuff, especially for the YA demographic, think Hunger Games, etc.
The Harry Potter series
Everything by Nick Hornby is pretty easy
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
I only read Redshirts, but John Scalzy seems to be a pretty easy read
1984, Animal Farm and Brave New World as well as Lord of the Flies, standard Highschool reading here in Germany
To kill a Mockingbird
Graphic Novels are also a good way to learn, as the pictures help with understanding what is going on generally.
Aside from the lack of things like quotation marks, he's about as simple as you could possibly get.
His prose does not use complex sentence structure or much in the way of $5 words.
Reading his stuff always puts me in a contemplative and introspective mood, though some critics might say he's depressing.
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Is she interested at all in fantasy/fairytale type books? One of my favorite books is Howl's Moving Castle. It was written for "young readers" but it is still a good book to me - but this is because I like both fairy tales and sarcasm, two things the book does excellently.
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
Then again, I think everyone should read that book.
I'll also second Hemingway and add in the Seamus Heaney version of Beowulf.
Best book in the English language, but not remotely comprehensible to a weak reader.
Stephen King has written a lot of good stories that only use simple prose, and as a plus, would introduce her to a lot of Americana that some authors would just assume she knows. The Harry Potter series would be another great option, although she may need to look up the occasional britishism.
Yeah, King's great.
This is a really bad ESL suggestion.
I recommend the short stories of Raymon Carver.
The problem with Douglas Adams' works is that while it's very funny and well-constructed, from an ESL standpoint it's not so great if you aren't pretty fluent to begin with. You've got everything from special, one-use vocabulary to complicated sentence structures and idiomatic concepts used in a context that could be difficult to pick up, making really independent reading (even with a dictionary) very difficult. It's very good, but she might save it for the next level up.
The only issue might be the "made-up" words, where he's talking about the sci-fi elements of the stories. You generally get the idea of where the root of the word came from and what he means by the made-up word, but that might be a little trickier in her case. I mean, he doesn't just go completely ridiculous with making up his own words, but he's pretty good at it. After all, this is the guy that came up with the the word "robotics".
I actually really enjoyed that book and I read it when I was like 12 years old.
It's about a boy who runs away from home and hitchhikes his way to an old plot of land his family used to own out in the mountains before they moved into the city. The story is written in a journal format and talks about him finding food, somewhere to live and training a young pet falcon he finds.
It's not especially long but a great read.
I think the Pratchett sugggestion from a few people suffers from the same 'problems', potentially.
Librarian's Neil Gaiman suggestion could be good, though. Maybe Stardust?
She has enjoyed, though:
The Picture of Dorian Grary by Oscar Wilde
Books by Michael Crichton (particularly Sphere, which is a great book if you didn't see the movie (which is terrible))
The Talented Mr Ripley
The Day of the Triffids
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Steinbeck = super accessible. Definitely a good suggestion.
Oh god, I loved that book as a kid. I only rediscovered it recently after finding out the author passed away.
And yeah, I don't get the Adam and Pratchett recomendations, as both seem to have a love for word play and puns that are going to be lose on a non native speaker.
Lauren Beukes has a nicely vernacular style that would be good if you're better with spoken than written English.
Similar resources are also available for most of the "classic american novel" authors, and some of them are much more straightforward than Hemmingway or Fitzgerald. i.e. Jack London, Steinbeck, Mark Twain. Again, short stories are great intros to the author and style. The pearl, To Build a Fire, etc.
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Isn't that a thousand page tome about politics and economics?
I'd recommend she start out with modern childrens literature (The Hobbit, Harry Potter, Wrinkle in Time) rather than jumping back to older writers like Dickens or Austen.
They also do Dostoyevsky. I'm reading Demons right now, it's quite good.
Kafka's short stories are also great, I like In the Penal Colony, and The Burrow. His novels are also excellent, but perhaps starting with his shorter fiction may lend to a slightly hastier review.
Robert Walser did some interesting stuff, a modernist author of the early twentieth century, he was also an influence on writers such as the aforementioned Kafka. He has various short fiction/novellas that are fairly quick and amusing to read, in that the language he uses is quite absurd and dynamic. I'd suggest The Walk, an absurd passage through the sights and sounds of a man simply walking through his own fevered interpretation of the reality he encounters. Berlin Stories is his other widely available work, though I haven't read it in a long time, so I don't have much to say about it. Even his life (Walser's) is interesting to read about really. So is Dostoyevsky I would think,
I've heard good things about Simone de Beauvoir's novel Les Belles Images about a woman who works as an advertising executive in the sixties. Perhaps if a fan of Mad Men, specifically I've read that it does the existential angst of the exec of the time in a more sublime, less 'safe' manner. Not sure though, the english edition is out of print, but Amazon probably has a seller with a copy.
Lastly, for now, Bruno Schulz's.collection of short stories Street of Crocodiles is amazing, rarely seen is such dream like, surreal prose yet dripping with the small elements of reality that contain beauty in many forms. His prose is very enchanting. It's quite tragic that he was murdered by a Nazi, and after only having written a relatively small amount of work.