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GRAW 2...............RACIST!!

paco_pepepaco_pepe Registered User regular
edited March 2007 in Games and Technology
hi, today while reading the paper, something caught my eye, i think we gamers are quick to notice gaming related things in places where its not common..like the newspaper.
I saw this:
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in a nutshell, it says that the game makes Juarez look bad, terrorists, drugs, etc, for this reason, the city is looking to sue Ubisoft.

I live 3 hours away from Juarez, and well, the city is certainly not made out of rainbows and sugar, but its not a hellhole either, its just an ugly and overpopulated border mexican city, all the border cities share the same problems.

Personally, as a mexican, i really dont give a shit, i think the government is overreacting, because well, this is a work of fiction, you know, being in "the future" and all.

If the game is fun, i will kill my fellow mexican turrists for hours on end.
Thoughs? as any game threatened your local authorities?

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  • NerdtendoNerdtendo Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Fuck man! I live in America. I should sue every story teller that ever made the American government look like some conspiratorial corporate mass of evil backstabbing beurocrats.

    The History Channel is first on my list!

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I live across the border from Juarez, and actually lived in Juarez for a couple of years, with some family still living there.
    All I have to say is that Juarez has plenty of problems, their last concern being a game that portrays the city somewhat accurately, if exagerated.

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  • FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    If that's the case, then every Middle Eastern and Asiatic country in existence had better get its ass into suing the motion picture and gaming industries for using them as boilerplate baddies for the last few decades.

    Of course, I know how politicians work, so I'd argue that this likely some local suits trying to make it look as though they're "doing something" about this bad publicity.

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  • major_tommajor_tom Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    What's with Ubisoft's bizarre obession with Mexicans lately, anyway? I mean, they're the antagonists in Rainbow Six: Vegas, too. Is it just to maintain some sort of thematic continuity between the Clancy games?

    I live in the UK, so I don't really know much about these things.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    major_tom wrote: »
    What's with Ubisoft's bizarre obession with Mexicans lately, anyway? I mean, they're the antagonists in Rainbow Six: Vegas, too. Is it just to maintain some sort of thematic continuity between the Clancy games?

    I live in the UK, so I don't really know much about these things.

    I'm guessing that the excuse is "retaining thematic continuity" and the real reason is "cutting down on budget by reusing assets between games".

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    For some reason, it amuses me that a Mexican city wants to sue a French game developer.

    How do international lawsuits work anyway?

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    The mayor of Vegas flipped out too when he found out his town would be under virtual seige. I think he tried to sue Ubisoft so they couldn't use Las Vegas. I don't think it went anywhere.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Mexico doesn't have enough money to fund a lawsuit to sue Ubisoft.

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  • MrOlettaMrOletta Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Dublo7 wrote: »
    Mexico doesn't have enough money to fund a lawsuit to sue Ubisoft.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/03/12/mexico.slim.ap/index.html

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    That guy's name and physical appearance are like the definition of Irony.

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  • HaikiraHaikira UKRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    untitled1qa3.jpg =P

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  • TroubledTomTroubledTom regular
    edited March 2007
    This is why GTA changes the names of its cities.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Mexico is evil!

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  • SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    This is why GTA changes the names of its cities.

    To avoid near-free newspaper advertisements?

    I seriously doubt (though anything's possible, I guess) that anything will ultimately come out of the proposed legal action.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Of course it won't.

    I should probably buy GRAW2 sometime...
    Eh.

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  • Disco BanditDisco Bandit Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Suriko wrote: »
    This is why GTA changes the names of its cities.

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    Tell that to my friend who is from San Andreas, CA

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    It's a fact. Mexicans are just a bunch of red diamonds that you shoot at until they turn white.

    (I love reducing terrorists to polygons.)

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  • MoridanMoridan Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    major_tom wrote: »
    What's with Ubisoft's bizarre obession with Mexicans lately, anyway? I mean, they're the antagonists in Rainbow Six: Vegas, too. Is it just to maintain some sort of thematic continuity between the Clancy games?

    I live in the UK, so I don't really know much about these things.

    I'm guessing that the excuse is "retaining thematic continuity" and the real reason is "cutting down on budget by reusing assets between games".

    Actually, I'm beginning to wonder if the Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon franchises aren't about to merge. That'd be fine by me. Get all that talent behind one franchise and make a game that is a good mix of rural and urban combat with seamless transitions between the two.

    Oh yeah, and fire the lazy bastards behind Ghost Recon's multiplayer.

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  • MoridanMoridan Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Cantido wrote: »
    It's a fact. Mexicans are just a bunch of red diamonds that you shoot at until they turn white.

    That might be sig worthy. :D

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  • WitchdrWitchdr Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I miss the good old days of fighting russians, good old cold war days.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
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  • major_tommajor_tom Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Moridan wrote: »
    Oh yeah, and fire the lazy bastards behind Ghost Recon's multiplayer.

    Truth. The MP in GRAW (and, by extension, GRAW2) is just terrible. They should just get the R6 guys to do it.

    I always pronounce it 'yoobisoft'.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Moridan wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    It's a fact. Mexicans are just a bunch of red diamonds that you shoot at until they turn white.

    That might be sig worthy. :D

    No seriously, I cant wait till our forces have those helmets. Terrorists are all like, THERES THE AMERICANS! KILL THEM FOR THE SAKE OF OUR COUNTRY!

    And our troops are all like "There a red diamond!" *blapblapblap* "Okay, next!"

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  • MoridanMoridan Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    major_tom wrote: »
    Moridan wrote: »
    Oh yeah, and fire the lazy bastards behind Ghost Recon's multiplayer.

    Truth. The MP in GRAW (and, by extension, GRAW2) is just terrible. They should just get the R6 guys to do it.

    I always pronounce it 'yoobisoft'.

    I wouldn't go so far as to say it is terrible, it is pretty fun. But, it is lazy. There is no excuse for the differences between single player and multiplayer. The lack of the ability to take cover is simply inexcusable.

    Oh, and the difference in graphics quality. The "split screen is too hard on the system" excuse died when Gears of War was released.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    major_tom wrote: »
    Moridan wrote: »
    Oh yeah, and fire the lazy bastards behind Ghost Recon's multiplayer.

    Truth. The MP in GRAW (and, by extension, GRAW2) is just terrible. They should just get the R6 guys to do it.

    I always pronounce it 'yoobisoft'.
    Man, I thought I was the only one that hated GRAW MP.

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Dublo7 wrote: »
    major_tom wrote: »
    Moridan wrote: »
    Oh yeah, and fire the lazy bastards behind Ghost Recon's multiplayer.

    Truth. The MP in GRAW (and, by extension, GRAW2) is just terrible. They should just get the R6 guys to do it.

    I always pronounce it 'yoobisoft'.
    Man, I thought I was the only one that hated GRAW MP.


    Me too. i thought I just wasn't getting it, apparently it just isn't that good.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    R6V MP is fantastic. I go back to it every so often.
    I always have a good time with it.

    GRAW, when I first played MP, I thought "Jesus... talk about generic crap".
    I tried to play it again, a few days later, and I thought the exact same thing.
    Lazy, boring, etc etc.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Wait, wait... you STILL can't take cover in GRAW2 multiplayer? WTF? They pretty much perfected it in Rainbow Six. It just moved way down on my list.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah, the inability for cover in MP is just so damn silly.

    Imagine R6V MP without cover.
    Yuck.

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  • major_tommajor_tom Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Dublo7 wrote: »
    major_tom wrote: »
    Moridan wrote: »
    Oh yeah, and fire the lazy bastards behind Ghost Recon's multiplayer.

    Truth. The MP in GRAW (and, by extension, GRAW2) is just terrible. They should just get the R6 guys to do it.

    I always pronounce it 'yoobisoft'.
    Man, I thought I was the only one that hated GRAW MP.


    Me too. i thought I just wasn't getting it, apparently it just isn't that good.

    I know it's all horses for courses, and so forth, but GRAW MP (and GRAW2, at least based on the demo) has always felt lazy and shoddy to me. The graphics are sub-par, the controls feel incredibly loose and unresponsive, aiming is a pain, and third-person view?! (I know you don't have to use it, but the game feels just as unresponsive and kludgy in first-person).

    Perhaps worst of all, the game clearly can't decide whether it wants to be a 'realistic' tactical shooter or a run-and-gun CS-type blaster, and ends up doing neither particularly well. The accuracy penalty for firing while running isn't particularly high (You can easily hit a man-sized target at several dozen yards while running, even with an LMG. Its not worth bothering to stop or crouch.), which favours more run-and-gun play. Yet you can easily go down from one torso hit, which turns many firefights into a complete crapshoot.

    Then there's the fact that it seems that part of the Ghosts training involves a serious cardio workout, as everyone dashes along at some sort of ridiculous speed. For added comedy, if you play in 3rd-person you can see that your avatar has his weapon raised and is squinting down the sights, even when he's tearing along at a sprint that would put a gold-medal winning olympic athlete to shame.

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  • Yossarian_Lives!Yossarian_Lives! Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Slightly off topic here, but R6 Vegas did come up. Is the PC multiplayer any good? (for Vegas) i know the 360's version is decent, but i havent heard much about the PC version. And they havent released a demo that i know of, which i not a good sign. R63 was one of my favorite multiplayer games, and theres a small void there now :p

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