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My Job {Still} Sucks Thread

KlendyKlendy GoomyGoomyGoomyRegistered User regular
edited September 2012 in Social Entropy++
So, the other job thread capped at 100 and I needed to bitch about my jerb.

Basically I work as a Video Store clerk, and we have four or five stores in the area, all of which have terribly neglected lawns and adjoining properties. My store manager asks if I wanna pick up some extra hours mowing, edging, and whatnot with given supplies, and stupidly I agree to do it. Turns out to be a huge pain in the ass, I have to drive all about town, pick up a mower, store it in my trunk, take it to my store's location, get halfway done and the mower quits. So we (read I) take the mower to a local maintenance shop and get it fixed (comp'd by the company, of course) but it was still time driving and arranging and a pain in the ass that I'm getting 8.50 an hour to take care of. Not to mention the fact that none of this was scheduled, and is eating into my free time, being a full-time student, which is fairly precious to me. Long story short, I get the lawnwork done, and it's a shitfit the entire time. The lawn's waay too long to be mowed adequately because it's been neglected for so long, and I constantly have to stop and clean the mower's blades out to get the job done. So the next day, no less than three other stores, of which there are five in the area, all call me and ask me to come do their lawns. Dafaq? Sure I did an okay job, but I was stupid enough to help out a store which is getting audited in about 10 hours.

Now all the other stores expect me to mow them, too. Shit I should have just said, "no." but I feel like I can't now because I already said yes.

I did draft up an agreement for supplemental pay and whatnot, take a gander and see if it sucks, and if I should change it or if that's even the right thing to do. I kinda am asking for a rediculous sum of money because I really don't want to do this, and if I do continue to do it, I want to be payed well. The lots are much larger than one would think, taking 2-3 hours to mow well.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iyZ2G20zX0jzMkI7S_kLws_x_5JWc_uniLa-m8fhX5A/edit

SO

BITCH ABOUT YO' JOBS

HALP W/ MAH PROBLEMS

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  • CorporateRedCorporateRed Wooooooo! Registered User regular
    If that's what you're willing to do it for, then fuck em if they're not willing to pay it. Yardwork isn't part of your job description so you're under no obligation to do it. They don't meet your terms, tell them to fuck off and die. Then apologize so you don't lose your regular job.

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  • SnowbearSnowbear Registered User regular
    I know my job isn't terrible, its good pay for someone my age and it isn't really all that physical or anything. Still though, sometimes I just want to strangle the people I work with and I honestly cannot wait till I am done with college so i can tell them to kiss my ass

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    the banks won't help with my cashflow without a cosigner and i need some serious short-term capital.

    lemme know if you know any angel investors. i could use an angel.

  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    I'm currently unemployed, and moving to a different country.

    I'm using the "Shotgun" method of applying for jobs. Literally anything that I could be qualified for I'm sending an application for. And I'm meeting with anyone who works in the industry.

    I always have my fallback of back to ships, but I reeeeeally don't want to do that. For like 50 reasons. It was good, but I'm moving on.

    Also since money isn't important my girlfriend is going to school to get her teaching license so she can teach French for elementary schools. So we have even less money.

    Whee!

  • SnowbearSnowbear Registered User regular
    I would like to get my A+ certification just so I can be qualified in basic IT and be able to fall back on that.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Today, I actually refused to speak to a woman about a potential job offer, because she had a very strong Indian accent and I couldn't understand what she was saying. If her company felt that it was a good idea to put her in charge of calling applicants and then attempting to explain the company and position, that was not a company I wanted to work for.

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    I may be moving out of the computers section of Best Buy soon, and into the Geek Squad.

    Pay is better and you don't have to deal with customers constantly, so that is a plus, but it's still Best Buy.

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  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I have a job interview this afternoon, so of course I woke up feeling stressed and anxious. Job interviews are the worst.

    Its not even a job I particularly want - assistant manager at a pub so really lame work hours which is the reason I want to get out of pubs. But it would be decent pay and its a big company so I could get good training and for the first time ever have a pension. It would mean I could move to Bristol and get my own place and that basically means freedom to me.

    SO YEAH I AM A LITTLE STRESSED, OKAY?

  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    Slider wrote: »
    Today, I actually refused to speak to a woman about a potential job offer, because she had a very strong Indian accent and I couldn't understand what she was saying. If her company felt that it was a good idea to put her in charge of calling applicants and then attempting to explain the company and position, that was not a company I wanted to work for.

    I know. If those curry munchers are going to come over here the least they can do is learn how to speak American.

  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    Slider wrote: »
    Today, I actually refused to speak to a woman about a potential job offer, because she had a very strong Indian accent and I couldn't understand what she was saying. If her company felt that it was a good idea to put her in charge of calling applicants and then attempting to explain the company and position, that was not a company I wanted to work for.

    this is, uh

    this is certainly an opinion to have

  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    As somebody who works with a lot of ESL coworkers, trying to decipher what is being said really hampers doing work sometimes. There was a lot of friction at work recently where a lady from Russia and a lady from China had many issues communicating with eachother- one of them eventually quit.
    Not that I would prefer working with real muricans who speak real good. I would have as difficult a time with some American dialects as well, not to mention those of England or other English speaking countries.
    I like most of my coworkers, and most days I don't notice it. But sometimes, oh man.
    If the lady had other responsibilities other than calling job applicants, and did them well I would not judge anybody on that. But I would judge the company making anybody with a thick non-standard accent their main phone person.

    If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    Khavall wrote: »
    I'm currently unemployed, and moving to a different country.

    I'm using the "Shotgun" method of applying for jobs. Literally anything that I could be qualified for I'm sending an application for. And I'm meeting with anyone who works in the industry.

    I always have my fallback of back to ships, but I reeeeeally don't want to do that. For like 50 reasons. It was good, but I'm moving on.

    Also since money isn't important my girlfriend is going to school to get her teaching license so she can teach French for elementary schools. So we have even less money.

    Whee!

    Eh?

    I thought the ship thing was going well for you. Everything alright?

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    kill me

    kill my job

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  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    I worked with loads of Indian guys at Domino's, some of whom could barely speak any English at all. I worked there for 5 years and by the end we still couldn't really communicate. They would talk to me in hindi and punjabi and bits of English and I would smile and nod, and we mainly communicated by hand waving and pointing. And then on top of that the drivers were largely Eastern European and Nepalese so I had people talking to me in the thickest Polish, Hungarian, Bulgarian and Nepali accents and man I just gave up after a while.

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    I'm going to re-post this as we now have a job thread.
    So, today at the junior high was the orientation for the 7th graders. My student was not in attendance so I set-up the room, typed out some documents, set-up my schedule for the year and sat down for an expectations & goal setting meeting with the primary teacher within the classroom.

    Which is to say I think I did the most professional work I have ever done (which made me really proud).

    I then went to lunch in the teacher's lounge where I almost vomited from an anxiety attack because I can not handle the reality of me eating with a school's faculty in the lounge.

    After that we watched some Michael Jackson music videos with the 7th graders and I was told I got to have the school shirts reserved for the faculty at the school.

    Finally I was asked to join the school's faculty for a group photo after school got done. I did some introducing and hob-knobing with the staff (some I know, others I do not). The new P.E. teacher in particular seems rad as hell, so he & I were joking around. Also he looks just like younger Jeremy Renner.

    So... I am really proud and happy and scared and holy shit the school officially kicks off tomorrow.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    my job is excellent thanks for asking


    also strong accents can be extremely challenging in certain fields



    I used to work with dozens of Indian contractors and many a time I would have to pretend like I understood what they said, send them back to their desk, and then send them an e-mail telling them I forgot so they could just type out what the hell they wanted to tell me. One of them had a very very very quiet voice and that was the hardest. Schools in India to teach citizens complete English accents is a cottage industry.

  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    never had any real problems working with people with strongly accented english, although there was one guy from northern china who I sometimes couldn't understand, which made me feel awful. Then I heard him speak mandarin and I realised it wasn't an accent, he just had a speech impediment.

    I do have trouble with strongly accented german, but I figure that's really my problem.

    Also you haven't lived until you've heard a frenchman say "Willy-willy".

  • CrackedLensCrackedLens Registered User regular
    Maybe if you ask them to speak really loud and really slow you can understand them better

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  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Snowbear wrote: »
    I would like to get my A+ certification just so I can be qualified in basic IT and be able to fall back on that.

    You don't actually need A+ to work in IT

    Most of the people I ran into working in IT in Milwaukee had absolutely no education related to IT whatsoever, and I just got a job as a Unix Administrator entirely on the grounds that I knew nothing about Unix and they desperately wanted someone who understood computing, server technology, and thoroughly could handle command lines but who wasn't already a self described Unix Guru (because the last four they hired were nothing of the sort)

    I mean maybe it varies around the country, my inbox is still full of job offers since I put up a resume on Monster saying how great I was and/or got an associates degree in computer support (hard to say which one of these was more important, but I'd imagine I'd have gotten many of them with no education on that resume at all, I got fancy business cards and a number of businesses I've done minor IT work for as references that speak volumes more), but I aint got no A+

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    my job is excellent thanks for asking

    I will RUIN your SHIT

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  • SassoriSassori Registered User regular
    I've been having a really hard time concentrating and I don't know if it's because I'm bored or if it's something that could be cured with magic pills.

    Blargh.

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    Sassori wrote: »
    I've been having a really hard time concentrating and I don't know if it's because I'm bored or if it's something that could be cured with magic pills.

    Blargh.

    Sassori please stop being me

    I am in no mood for an existential crisis

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  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    To elaborate, if you want to work in IT don't wait for an education to look, just clean a few computers of spyware for local businesses, for free if you have to to get them as references, and throw down that you do self employed consulting or whatever on your resume. Get a business card that says you're a consultant.

    I mean it sound stupid and it probably is but that got me more job offers in six months than the previous six years. This isn't to say don't go get A+ or schooling or whatever, but there's no reason to not look in the interim, just repeat over and over to yourself that you're fucking awesome and make sure your resume reads like that of someone who is

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  • SassoriSassori Registered User regular
    Sassori wrote: »
    I've been having a really hard time concentrating and I don't know if it's because I'm bored or if it's something that could be cured with magic pills.

    Blargh.

    Sassori please stop being me

    I am in no mood for an existential crisis

    What color underwear are we wearing right now?

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    Sassori wrote: »
    Sassori wrote: »
    I've been having a really hard time concentrating and I don't know if it's because I'm bored or if it's something that could be cured with magic pills.

    Blargh.

    Sassori please stop being me

    I am in no mood for an existential crisis

    What color underwear are we wearing right now?

    well, I could go for the creep answer and say "trick question we're not wearing any"

    but I won't because I'd like to think I am Better

    so... black, with grey squares on the front and back

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    that's for the bras, the panties are another matter

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  • SassoriSassori Registered User regular
    Oh. Then maybe we aren't the same.

    I was feeling fancy so I went with...sapphire. Aw yeah.

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    Sassori why is your sig not working

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  • SassoriSassori Registered User regular
    Maybe that is my sig.

    Maybe I'm making a statement.

    It says "Someone make me a new sig."

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Oh my gosh interview prep so many bits of paper everywhere someone send help I am drowning in scribbled bullshit

  • CrackedLensCrackedLens Registered User regular
    I find out today if I got the bid for another department with better hours

    Fingers crossed

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  • SnowbearSnowbear Registered User regular
    To elaborate, if you want to work in IT don't wait for an education to look, just clean a few computers of spyware for local businesses, for free if you have to to get them as references, and throw down that you do self employed consulting or whatever on your resume. Get a business card that says you're a consultant.

    I mean it sound stupid and it probably is but that got me more job offers in six months than the previous six years. This isn't to say don't go get A+ or schooling or whatever, but there's no reason to not look in the interim, just repeat over and over to yourself that you're fucking awesome and make sure your resume reads like that of someone who is

    Well that's the thing, I don't have any formal education in IT outside of a few comp sci courses I took a year ago or so. That's why I wanted the certification just so I have something to show experience in the field besides ripping apart computers and putting them back together at home. That is a rather good idea about just doing work for myself and building up some references. Thanks for advice.

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  • Burning OrganBurning Organ Registered User regular
    My computer related education is pretty useless.

    Hands up anyone who learned fucking token ring networks in 200X, worked on Intel 486 computers, didn't have any courses about how PHP and MyQSL integrate, did the same exercises in VisualBasic, java and PHP and never anything unique to any of those languages.

    I did learn a very little bit about webdesign from the one good teacher in that school, also some flash, neither of which really helps me at the moment. At least I've kinda heard that the school is improving now but that don't help me.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    everyones programming courses suck


    i literally went to school for web development and I cannot ever remember a class about specifically linking PHP or ASP to a database


    databases classes yes

    programming classes yet


    merging the two no

  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    everyones programming courses suck


    i literally went to school for web development and I cannot ever remember a class about specifically linking PHP or ASP to a database

    Seems like you guys went to the wrong school. I did Web Development (Internet Computing) at university and we had a pretty major project at the end of the second year that covered some pretty hefty data-mining of a MYSQL db, so for the semester leading up to that project we started off with command line database work to get a ground for it, then moved into how PHP uses it, then learned data security through PDO, etc.

    The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin
  • Burning OrganBurning Organ Registered User regular
    I mean I guess I did learn some binary, which would have been useful circa 1978.

  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2012
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    I'm currently unemployed, and moving to a different country.

    I'm using the "Shotgun" method of applying for jobs. Literally anything that I could be qualified for I'm sending an application for. And I'm meeting with anyone who works in the industry.

    I always have my fallback of back to ships, but I reeeeeally don't want to do that. For like 50 reasons. It was good, but I'm moving on.

    Also since money isn't important my girlfriend is going to school to get her teaching license so she can teach French for elementary schools. So we have even less money.

    Whee!

    Eh?

    I thought the ship thing was going well for you. Everything alright?

    Things were pretty much great on the ship, and then the corporate side was consistently insulting and awful to me. Last contract started to seal it too. Also my girlfriend is moving to land anyways, so I'm not too inclined to be away, but they really sealed it most recently:
    So about a year and a half ago, back when I was only about 6-7 months with the company, I was given a promotion for part of a contract. I was promoted basically on an emergency basis and it was always supposed to be temporary within that contract. I also already had a contract lined up in my old position, and I was fine going back for a bit. Also, back then we had 2 piano players in the show band, and one of them basically got really shitty parts, half the band leaders treat the part as though it's worthless, and it's in general just a shit gig. Nobody really knew how they were assigned, but I was consistently told to play this part despite the other keyboardists onboard being really demonstrably worse on the instrument than I was, just bigger douchebags who refused to play the keyboard. I filled the end of that contract happily. And my next contract was, as I said, already there.

    I then had one contract from hell, where the ship itself was just god awful, nobody was happy, I gained 30 pounds, the stress levels were through the roof, etc. During this time, because I had filled in in a couple of other musical positions around the ship(Piano bar, Jazz trio) and gotten really good feedback, I decided to inquire about those other positions to see if they were available. I also pretty much demanded that if they weren't available, I wanted the promotion from earlier to be a permanent one. I had enough time with the company, enough recommendations to merit it, and I'd been told several times that the company was in desperate need of Piano/Band leaders.

    The response from corporate was a flat no on everything. I was then told that the last time i had the promotion "People had problems", and corporate refused to tell me who or what their problems were. Basically I was told there were problems and I needed to fix them, but they got incredibly dodgy and didn't give me any information other than that. So I drew a line in the sand, and said that after a year and change of playing the crappy part, I would not take a contract on it again. I was then told that "Oh corporate doesn't assign that, it's just up to the band leader". I talked to a bunch of band leaders. Absolutely none of them knew this, they thought that it was decided by corporate. They were absolutely never told that it was their decision. I'm also told that if I continue to get recommendations for the Band Leader position, I will see the promotion soon, as they really need Piano playing band leaders.

    And so after positive feedback from on the ship with different positions, and recommendations for different positions, still I was pretty much reduced to asking for 2 things: 8 months on the same ship, as that was the length of the contract my girlfriend was taking, and never Keys2 again or I quit. I was then offered a 3 month contract with a note that "You probably will be playing piano". I responded that I asked for 2 things and one of them I was maybe getting, one of them I wasn't getting at all. They responded that if I wanted a longer contract I would just need to play Keys2 because the Band leaders are going to be pianists for the remainder of the time.

    Since I also play bass, I asked them what would be required for that, and they asked me to fill in for a set and get a recommendation(I still believed that this would work, despite them throwing all other recommendations I'd ever gotten out). So I did that, got a glowing recommendation from a few people in the band, and then suddenly heard nothing for 2 months. Then they came back saying "That's not enough anymore, you have to submit an audition". So I'm in limbo right now. My girlfriend accepted her contract, so I was stuck on the ship for 8 months no matter what. I go home, submit the audition video, and hear nothing back.

    Then a month later, when I'm 2 weeks from leaving for the ship, I get a response that the Bass position has been filled, so if I want to stay on the ship for more than 3 months, I have to take keys2. Since my girlfriend had to take the contract in this time, and it had to be 8 months because her company was being awesome and giving her the promotion she asked for, I pretty much either could take the contract as keys2 or go 5 months without seeing each other or having any easy contact. So I take the contract and don't say anything about if I would want a future contract.

    Fast forward 2 and a half months. It had now been about 6-7 months since I was told that the Band leaders were piano players and already contracted, and that I "wasn't ready yet". We get word about a month and a half before the guy was coming that they now have a band leader coming, and that he's doing 1 month on another ship to learn a bit about the company and ship life, but other than that he hadn't been on a ship in his life, nor had he worked with the company at all in any respect. I obviously have problems with this and ask corporate what the shit's up. They basically tell me that I should've thought of that when I took the keys2 contract, completely ignoring that I have evidence that they flat out lied to me in about every respect just to get me on the ship. The guy comes on board and has a couple rough edges because he's new, and we're willing to cut him a little slack because, hey... he's new. He's pretty laid back, but whatever. Then things start slipping. He'll show up 15 minutes into a 60 minute set because he didn't set an alarm, or 30 minutes into a 90 minute set because he had gotten drunk in port. And because there's no direction at all and he doesn't know the charts, every song ends with the band basically falling apart.

    Then at one point, the Jazz trio pianist got sick, and the Band leader, Event manager, and Cruise director decided that our BL would play in his place, completely leaving the band until the guy was healthy. I was not asked to take on the extra responsibility and work of BL, no I was told that I'd be doing it, with absolutely no extra pay or any compensation. When I talked to the guy in charge of this, he said "Well that's something you'd have to personally work out with the Band leader... that's not my call". So hey I got the promotion! Except I didn't, and I was being treated like total shit by the onboard management, and when I told them I was absolutely not ok with their decision and corporate would be getting an email they told me that that wasn't necessary, but they still weren't going to do anything else. I wrote to corporate and their response was "Well gee... you should be happy they are having you fill the spot! That's exactly what you were asking for!" With again, nothing about how if I was doing the extra work and taking the extra responsibility, maybe I should get something out of it.

    Then to really drive the point home, there's a shuffle with who is coming to replace the BL, and it isn't decided until about 5 days before. So about 10 months after I was told that it was all set in stone and there was no wiggle room. This band leader sends in another recommendation, and sends one in for me as a piano bar entertainer and a singer/pianist with the band(They're adding bands with male vocalists to some ships now)

    So because I apparently don't get the pattern, I send an email off to corporate saying that they should've received the recommendation, and that I would be open for a position as piano/singer or piano bar, assuming that if I was piano/singer I got some extra pay compensation for the fact that I was doing two jobs, and one of them would get paid more anyways. I also sent in a message saying that even with the drama over the bullshit way it was approached, the time spent as Band Leader again was fun, I did enjoy it, and I would in fact be interested in another contract as Band Leader. I get once again a strong no on everything, and now their excuse is that because I've send in messages that I would be interested in positions that I've gotten recommendations for, that they don't think I'm qualified for, it shows that I'm just not qualified to be Band Leader. Also, they're not on the ships and don't see what's happening, so how would they know that I can do it?(I mentioned I thought this was what recommendations were for. They said "Well but that's not the whole story, is it?") Now this is one year after they said "Definitely within a year", 3 recommendations after they said "Just get another couple recommendations", and the second time I drew a clear line in the sand and they decided to test it by completely stepping over it. Also, as a note since it does all seem fast, most people last maybe a year on ships in general, maaaybe 2.

    So after all of that, I actually stood up and said that the 5th time they screwed me over was too much. I didn't send in a scathing resignation yet, because I don't have income on land yet, but going back there is absolutely only a worst-case option.

    So yeah.... On ship I was still having a blast for the most part. Maybe a couple bad months, one bad contract, but in general it was still pretty positive. But to have everything go great in the actual environment only to be told that everything was terrible and I was stupid for thinking it wasn't by the people who not only weren't there, but have never worked on a ship got really old. So it's time for me to close that chapter and move on, heading to land.

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  • GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Had a great day at my induction with Topshop Topman, got to know my co-workers better, found out my staff discount, saw the awesome marketing ploys being used for the upcoming opening, and at lunch the burger place we all went to gave us a plate of free chips for giving them a bunch of business.

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  • Burning OrganBurning Organ Registered User regular
    Someone needs to come punch me until I start being productive. The dishes need washing, stuff needs shipping, books need doing, invoices need writing, websites need developing, taxes need paying, computers need fixing.

    Damn that list is making me depressed.

  • Erin The RedErin The Red The Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMA Baton Rouge, LARegistered User regular
    I do IT stuff. Most of it is really just learned from experience. After doing phone support for a month or two, I was able to walk in and kill the A+ without much studying or difficulty. Now I'm working in a tech. deployment warehouse for the same company (going on 2 years now?) and there are 8 of us who are in charge of refurbishing, re-imaging, and shipping out machines for 18,000+ users. It gets... hectic at times, for sure.

    Also, you see some stupid shit. Like for real stupid. Someone spilled an entire pot of coffee on their machine, someone tried to put theirs in the dishwasher, someone's PET MONKEY (I shit you not) pulled all the keys off of the keyboard, etc. Lots of people forget computers on the roof of the car before getting on the interstate.

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