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Left ankle and calf is swollen. No pain, but getting increasingly nervous.

AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
edited September 2012 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I woke up this morning and noticed that my left ankle and my calf was swollen. I didn't think much of it, and figured it'd go down, but it's 4:47pm now, and it's just as swollen if not more. The area feels very firm, and almost tingly, and my toes feel kind of cold. I made a thread a week or so ago about a race I was running, and that went excellently, but I got really badly sunburned and it was VERY very trying on my body (11 miles up a mountain, and 30 obstacles. 6 hours in the sun), so I don't know if that could cause swelling in an area? I'm just very nervous, because I'm afraid of infection because I don't have health insurance. If anyone could give some insight on wtf is happening to my body, or at least calm me down a bit, I would really appreciate it. I like my leg, and want to keep it.

Thanks!

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Sunburn can cause swelling like that.

    You could also have a fracture on a metatarsal or some strain/sprain on some muscle/ligament/tendon that could cause a similar issue. If you can, get to a doctor, in the meantime wrap it as best you can to reduce swelling. Keep it elevated above your heart, as well. Ice will help as well.

    But it goes without saying that a doctor is your best course of action. How's the pain on it overall? Family history of diabetes (I mean assuming from your race I imagine you're a healthy person)? Are you on any medication too? (sorry about all the edits)

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Obligatory "please visit a doctor or clinic, regardless" post. :C When I've had to pay for doctor visits out of pocket, they've been anywhere from $40-80. Honestly though, it's worth it to pay that now, rather than go through the risk of having the situation get worse. (My check-engine light came on the other day, and a lot of people ignore that kinda thing, especially on older cars! I didn't (because I'm also unemployed and don't want "unknown but potentially small issue" actually be a "big issue")...and it turned out to be a legitimate issue that needed fixing! Worth the diagnostic fee, I tell ya whut).

    Obligatory "I'm not a doctor, but..." here's what I'd do in the mean time: take some ibuprofen, which can help reduce swelling. Also rest (obviously), and elevate your leg. I've heard of swelling from bad sunburns before...you can look it up on Google of course for some [probably obvious] advice (which will include "see a doctor plz"), as well as advice based on insane maladies you most likely do not have (which will include "go to the ER plz").

    Also, you can always call doctors' offices/clinics and ask how much they'll charge you to come in, and describe your situation to see if any of them will suggest anything for you to do in the meantime (in addition to coming in).

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    bowen wrote: »
    Sunburn can cause swelling like that.

    You could also have a fracture on a metatarsal or some strain/sprain on some muscle/ligament/tendon that could cause a similar issue. If you can, get to a doctor, in the meantime wrap it as best you can to reduce swelling. Keep it elevated above your heart, as well. Ice will help as well.

    But it goes without saying that a doctor is your best course of action. How's the pain on it overall? Family history of diabetes (I mean assuming from your race I imagine you're a healthy person)? Are you on any medication too? (sorry about all the edits)

    I can;t afford to go to a doctor. I'm totally uninsured, and won't be for the next few months, unfortunately.

    There is zero pain around the swollen area. The only part that hurt/hurts is right above the arch in my foot and it's very very mild. Other than that, there is zero pain. My aunt and grandma had diabetes, but that's it as far as I know. No medication, and I'd consider my self recently healthy (Lost about 45 pounds over the course of the last 8 months due to eating better and exercising).

    Also, you can always call doctors' offices/clinics and ask how much they'll charge you to come in, and describe your situation to see if any of them will suggest anything for you to do in the meantime (in addition to coming in).

    This is a very good idea.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    RICE is the best advice for now, other than doctor (which is obligatory). Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation. You know how to wrap an ace bandage around your foot right? That'll help with the swelling. Also keep your foot elevated as much as you can, again, above heart level. While you're sleeping I've found using 2-3 pillows is good (fold them and use your weight to keep them that way).

    There are a lot of things that can cause this, and some of them are not good (congestive heart failure, diabetes, embolisms) and a lot of stuff that isn't quite as bad (sprains/fractures on the metatarsal)

    You're not on BCP (or any estrogen), steroids (asthma?), or something like amlodepine (calcium channel blocker) right? (some people don't consider those meds)

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    And yeah give them a buzz and explain, some will work out payment plans rather than see you wait.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    bowen wrote: »
    RICE is the best advice for now, other than doctor (which is obligatory). Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation. You know how to wrap an ace bandage around your foot right? That'll help with the swelling. Also keep your foot elevated as much as you can, again, above heart level. While you're sleeping I've found using 2-3 pillows is good (fold them and use your weight to keep them that way).

    There are a lot of things that can cause this, and some of them are not good (congestive heart failure, diabetes, embolisms) and a lot of stuff that isn't quite as bad (sprains/fractures on the metatarsal)

    You're not on BCP (or any estrogen), steroids (asthma?), or something like amlodepine (calcium channel blocker) right? (some people don't consider those meds)

    The only thing that I'm "on" is the NuvaRing, but i've been using it for over 2 years.

    e: I've also been taking extra strength tylenol for the past 2 days due to sunburn pain and achy muscles.

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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Is this the day after the race?

  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    If it's the day after the race it could be shin splints. The symptoms you are describing happened to me in basic training.

  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    The race was on sunday, so 4 days.

  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Did you continue running after that? Could be related if you got a minor injury during the race and continued training after and aggravated it. If you have not been training I dont' think it would be related to the race.

  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Also, diabetes is unlikely to present with sudden swelling in a single leg.

  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Did you continue running after that? Could be related if you got a minor injury during the race and continued training after and aggravated it. If you have not been training I dont' think it would be related to the race.
    No. The last strenuous exercise I did was the race itself. I've been resting ever since, and probably won't exercise until this weekend (Going to florida, might swim, so hardly anything strenuous).

  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard The duck MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    Have you stretched? Have you overstretched?

  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    I'd bite the bullet and just go, money or no money. This could be something minor, but it could also be something major, or something that you could aggravate while in Florida and have it really screw something up.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Not since a few days ago, and I don't think I over stretched. I didn't do anything out of the ordinary except run that race (my first, and it was 5 miles farther than I ever ran, and the most difficult thing I've ever done in my life)

    e: I don't know if this will make a difference, but here's my one fat leg.

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    Hi,

    I mentioned your problem to someone, and I was told this is very likely to be the beginning of Arthritis. It is a good idea that you see an Orthopedist, and or a Rheumatologist

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  • AgahnimAgahnim Registered User regular
    There are likely low cost (or even free!) Clinics in your area that can help you. You don't have to go to a private practice or huge hospital to see a doctor, and often times these clinics will be more affordable. Contrary to popular belief there are a lot of safety nets in the us for individuals without insurance--unfortunately these are often obscured by for profit health organizations.

    What I'm trying to say is that you should google for the nearest community clinic and give them a call. Mention that you don't have insurance and see if they have a sliding fee system or payment plans that can assist you. You can see a doctor for as little as $20 even without insurance, you just need to find them. Hope you feel better!

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  • SiskaSiska Shorty Registered User regular
    Really look into finding a clinic you can afford. It could be just some swelling from an injury you didn't notice, or it could be something serious. If it's something dangerous like a very sneaky blood clot or infection going to a doctor now can be the difference between 2 weeks of antibiotics and all kinds of nightmarish outcomes (amputation, death).

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Yeah it doesn't look like the kind of swelling you'd see in those situations though. Looks like the kind of swelling you see with a fracture or sprain/strain. Again, I'm no doctor.

    Alyce see what you can do about getting into a low cost/free clinic in your area.

    Keep it under compression and elevation. Prolonged swelling that goes untreated can damage your feet. Also if money is an issue, your parents/family would rather help than see you get hurt more.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    Right above my arch is starting to hurt very slightly, which leads me to believe that I did injure it during the run, however the swelling has gone down slightly, which is a good sign. I'm going to see if there are any free clinics in the area of Florida I'm going to be in, or a Wallgreens clinic or something, just in case.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    On the top or the bottom of the foot alyce? (Sole or dorsum?)

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    You should probably treat this as a warning to stop the strenuous outdoor sports until you have insurance. Think about much much worse off you would be right now if you had broken your wrist and couldn’t work.

  • Raif SeveranceRaif Severance Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    As previous people have said - doctor doctor doctor. Any advice we give you is just speculation really. I am not a physician, I am a 4th year pharmacy student.

    Since you just did a pretty strenuous exercise, my first bet would be an injury. Does your leg feel warm at all to the touch? I don't see any redness from the picture you showed.

    One other possibility is a deep vein thrombosis (DVT) which can present similarly to what you are describing - slightly painful swelling in the lower extremities. Most cases of this are with people who are stationary for long periods of time and they get a clot in their legs - think long flights and things like that or bedridden people, so this is generally low suspicion for you. If you start having any shortness of breath go to the ED as fast as you can since that could mean this potential clot has gone to your lungs in something called a pulmonary embolism. If you go to the doctor they will most likely do an ultrasound of your leg and probably take some x-rays of your leg and chest.

    The fact that you use an estrogen product (nuvaring) can put you at an increased clotting risk - hopefully you don't smoke or use tobacco products because that combination further increases your risk.

    Again, this is probably just some sort of injury from your run since you weren't used to that extent of physical activity and I don't mean to worry you. I realize going to the doctor is expensive without insurance, but it's hard to put a price on your health and your peace of mind.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Increased clotting and potential swelling in the leg. That there's tenderness in the foot makes me think hairline fracture.

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  • NamrokNamrok Registered User regular
    So, the first thing that jumped out at me was compartment syndrome.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002204/

    Because you mentioned you've been doing lots of running. And when I think running I think shin splints, cause I always get them. And if you ignore those enough, it can turn into compartment syndrome.

    What conflicts the most with that though is that you said you aren't in any pain. Compartment syndrome is supposed to hurt. A lot.

    But still, if you aren't going to a doctor, all you can really do is take therapeutic doses of anti inflammatories, rest, ice it, and hope it doesn't turn black and fall off.

  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    bowen wrote: »
    On the top or the bottom of the foot alyce? (Sole or dorsum?)

    Top, and now right under the ankle, but still VERY very little pain. I'm thinking I twisted it somehow. It is warm to the touch, and there is some light bruising around it. I found a free clinic near my office, and I'll go there next saturday (when it's open) and probably get a full exam while I'm at it.

    E: Also, every other part of my body feels great. No shortness of breath or anything.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    it could just be some edema from the run. stress fractures of the foot would hurt a lot coming from personal experience. warm to touch could be sign of infection, and it may be something minor like a small puncture from the race which would explain the bruising, but it would be red

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    ...I found a free clinic near my office, and I'll go there next saturday (when it's open) and probably get a full exam while I'm at it.

    Great! Very happy you found this, and good job on looking for it. Because that's a week from now though, I'd definitely still suggest you keep up with the rest and such. You don't want to aggravate the issue, if aggravating it is possible.

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  • phoophoo Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    More than that, if you do everything that is low level that a doc would probably tell you to do anyway - RICE, NSAID around the clock, etc that will give you a leg up when you do see the doc. This will save you a second trip to the doc to tell him it doesn't work (or a 1st trip if it totally disappears). If none of those things work in a week's time and especially things continue to develop, then the doc may take a whole different tact.

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  • PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    I'm saying this as a high level runner and not a doctor that it sounds like shin slints or minor fracture. Though again Doctor Doctor Doctor.

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  • DerrickDerrick Registered User regular
    Be very careful about any loss of sensation (that can be a sign of loss of circulation. That and swelling is a bad sign). An urgent care center might be able to help on the cheap? See if you can find one locally.

    And for the unsolicited advice- you really shouldn't be pushing your body to the limit if you can't see a doctor when you accidentally go over the limit.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    Thanks guys for all your help. After propping up up and icing it, my leg is no longer swollen, so I guess this thread is solved! I have a doctor I can go to on Saturdays for free, and I found another sliding scale based clinic near my house open most days, so that's great. Thanks again!

  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    Woo!

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Thanks guys for all your help. After propping up up and icing it, my leg is no longer swollen, so I guess this thread is solved! I have a doctor I can go to on Saturdays for free, and I found another sliding scale based clinic near my house open most days, so that's great. Thanks again!

    Congrats. Keep an ace bandage handy if you notice some swelling. This way you can just wrap it up on the instead of icing and NSAIDs on the weekend.

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