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A reoccurring problem

PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
edited September 2012 in Help / Advice Forum
Ok guys here's my problem since I've got my new job and have actually managed to get a job as graphic designer. Every two weeks or so I've been going to a brothel. I mean I do have the money to afford it and I don't spend much money on non essentials. The main reason for this I've basically given up on the female sex. I know I'm not good enough unless I put on more muscle and at least with hookers it's all business. The point is I've going do regularly because it's hopeless the other way.


So guys how do I kick the habit hah oh god I'm actually crying I just want something to happen to prove I'm not destined to spend my twenties alone.

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  • TPSouTPSou Mr Registered User regular
    I've never, ever met a girl who says 'ah you'd be good be good enough if only you put on more muscle'. Don't worry about that at all man! Girls for the most part aren't that shallow.

  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    I say this in all seriousness. Take that money you're spending on prostitutes and invest in a good therapist. These issues aren't something we're going to be able to completely work out for you here.

  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I married the pastiest, whitest of nerds. If there's a muscle on his body, I haven't found it. I love him dearly because he's a good person, generous and kind and patient, and probably one of the best people I've ever met. Our relationship does not want for sex. But you need to stop viewing women as clones that all want the same thing out of life or out of men. It sounds like you need to get to know more women as people with dreams and wants and hobbies and interests.

    And even if you do spend your 20s alone... so what? There are worse things than not having a partner. Make friends and have a good time. Your 30's may be when you get married and have a stable of children or wherever you keep those. Or your 40s. In the mean time you can save your money so you can have a nice retirement, and if you do get those kids someday you can give them the things they need and want.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • Chases Street DemonsChases Street Demons Registered User regular
    You're not on a schedule. Spending your 20s "alone" is fine. I did, until my wonderful wife stepped down from the heavens and took me. You just need to focus on yourself, build some self-confidence, and do things one step at a time. "Giving up on the female sex" is drastic, because that implies that they should all accept you unreservedly. Guess what? You've got baggage like the rest of us, and some people won't like it. You look a certain way and some people won't like it. You have certain hobbies and some people won't like it.

    I get that you're hurting but you can't view women as objects that you put "nice" into and "relationships" fall out of in exchange. I daresay your time at the brothels is only reinforcing the worst of the stereotypes running around your brain.

    Join a dating site, be brutally honest about yourself, and see who you connect to. I did that, and even though I did not marry anyone I met there I can honestly say that those relationships unloaded the baggage I was carrying so that by the time I met my wife I was in a place where I could act on it.

    You're not hopeless, unlovable, or destined to be alone.

    "Sometimes things aren't complicated," I said. "You just have to be willing to accept the absolute corruption of everybody involved."

  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    For real, get some help. Getting some muscle isn't the key to getting women. Being a good and fun person to be around is the key.
    It sounds like you have some serious self esteem issues and that probably make you a drag to be around.

    and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
    but they're listening to every word I say
  • LailLail Surrey, B.C.Registered User regular
    While I think all the previous advice should be taken first...if you're not happy with your appearance, you can change it. It's not hard. If you think you'd be happier if you were in better shape, start getting into better shape. Eating better and exercising regularly while definitely improve your self-esteem.

  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    Reading your old posts- did you ever get any of your anxiety issues resolved? Being that way will come across as clingy and instantly repel most girls even if you get swole.

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  • phoophoo Registered User regular
    I thoroughly second Esh's suggestion. You might even find someone who specializes in DBT, because they have tools they can hand you to deal with social situations and yourself.

    Brothels are fine if you are going for the right reasons, but that does not sound like it is the case here. It is not *really* what you want.

    If all the females around you want guys with muscles (truly and not just what you THINK they want), then you are around the wrong group of females. It is just not true and the older they get, the less true it becomes.

  • honkymcgoohonkymcgoo Registered User regular
    Out of curiosity where do you live? I'm assuming since you can just say you are going to a brothel that you live somewhere where prostitution is legal. If it's not then there is a whole other set of problems opened up.

    I didn't even know what the fuck and avitar was until about 5 minutes ago.
  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    Lail wrote: »
    While I think all the previous advice should be taken first...if you're not happy with your appearance, you can change it. It's not hard. If you think you'd be happier if you were in better shape, start getting into better shape. Eating better and exercising regularly while definitely improve your self-esteem.

    Sure, it could be good. But I think the number thing is to make sure you arent a chore to be around. Make sure, op, you arent constantly say, complaining or argumentative, or talking about your pokemons or whatever. Personality is number 1.

    and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
    but they're listening to every word I say
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I'm not anti sex worker. If you can use prostitutes healthily, can afford it and aren't allowing said use to damage your perception of women, more power to you. It doesn't sound like this is the case. So while I don't think it's a habit you desperately need to kick, you need to be going to therapy or seeking some kind of professional help at the same time.

    As far as your muscles go, I train with a large number of weightlifters, some of whom are at Olympic level. All of them are heavily muscled, and several of them couldn't get laid in a morgue. If you want big muscles several people here (myself included) can assure you that it's within your power no matter what your starting point. If you think it's going to automatically make you attractive to women, I'm afraid you're shit out of luck. There aren't any quick fixes there, and if you're incredibly unhappy and borderline unstable because you don't have a girlfriend the harsh truth is that you're 100% not in a position to have a healthy relationship.

  • PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Yes
    Lail wrote: »
    While I think all the previous advice should be taken first...if you're not happy with your appearance, you can change it. It's not hard. If you think you'd be happier if you were in better shape, start getting into better shape. Eating better and exercising regularly while definitely improve your self-esteem.
    I'm already in excellent shape can do a a marathon in 2 hour 20 minutes on a meh average training day. The point is I'm the wrong kind of fit.
    kaliyama wrote: »
    Reading your old posts- did you ever get any of your anxiety issues resolved? Being that way will come across as clingy and instantly repel most girls even if you get swole.
    Yep i don't suffer from those pain in the butt panic attacks anymore which is defiantely good.
    Tube wrote: »
    any quick fixes there, and if you're incredibly unhappy and borderline unstable because you don't have a girlfriend the harsh truth is that you're 100% not in a position to have a healthy relationship.
    Yeah not unstable just incredibley depressing knowing it's more or less pointless.

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  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    The point is I'm the wrong kind of fit.

    Are you reading any of the posts (and parts of posts) you didn't respond to, by pretty much everyone, telling you that the problem has nothing to do with this? Because you should. Because the problem here has nothing to do with muscles. Whatsoever.

  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    Essee wrote: »
    The point is I'm the wrong kind of fit.

    Are you reading any of the posts (and parts of posts) you didn't respond to, by pretty much everyone, telling you that the problem has nothing to do with this? Because you should. Because the problem here has nothing to do with muscles. Whatsoever.

    No, he isn't.

    We've been over this many many times with him in threads in SE, and more recently through PM's, and he steadfastly refuses to believe it's an attitude/perception/mental process thing nor makes any motion to do anything about it.

  • phoophoo Registered User regular
    Usagi: Bummer deal. This guarantees him a lifetime of pain and resentment until it hurts enough for him to get a change in perspective. The suck.

  • PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Usagi wrote: »
    Essee wrote: »
    The point is I'm the wrong kind of fit.

    Are you reading any of the posts (and parts of posts) you didn't respond to, by pretty much everyone, telling you that the problem has nothing to do with this? Because you should. Because the problem here has nothing to do with muscles. Whatsoever.

    No, he isn't.

    We've been over this many many times with him in threads in SE, and more recently through PM's, and he steadfastly refuses to believe it's an attitude/perception/mental process thing nor makes any motion to do anything about it.

    Actually I am seeing a new shrink , alot nicer then the last one hasn't any of the alpha/beta stuff yet. Blagh accidentally agreed with that post stupid tiny IPhone screen.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Muscles are not important. Don't be a fucking idiot.

  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    When I met my wife, I was 5'8" 115lbs. After two years of marriage, I have gone up to 122 lbs. I am very un-macho, very twig-like. She doesn't love me any less because of my lack of muscles.

    Women who don't like you because you're not muscular are not women you want to spend your time with anyway.

  • Pure DinPure Din Boston-areaRegistered User regular
    I'm already in excellent shape can do a a marathon in 2 hour 20 minutes on a meh average training day. The point is I'm the wrong kind of fit.

    wat

    I hear the olympic villiage is great for finding hook-ups...

  • PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Pure Din wrote: »
    I'm already in excellent shape can do a a marathon in 2 hour 20 minutes on a meh average training day. The point is I'm the wrong kind of fit.

    wat

    I hear the olympic villiage is great for finding hook-ups...

    Ha you flatter me but no compared to olympic level atheletes I'm a weak peice of shit. There are guys that have no problem doing under 2 hours.

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  • honkymcgoohonkymcgoo Registered User regular
    Also, is it just the sex you're craving or is it the companionship?

    I didn't even know what the fuck and avitar was until about 5 minutes ago.
  • PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Companionship with the opposite sex mostly though yes sex does play a tiny part alot smaller then alot of peopIe here seem to think basically think I'm a sex crazed bastard that only view women as flesh.resigned myself to the fact I'm only worthy of hookers.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    Pure Din wrote: »
    I'm already in excellent shape can do a a marathon in 2 hour 20 minutes on a meh average training day. The point is I'm the wrong kind of fit.

    wat

    I hear the olympic villiage is great for finding hook-ups...

    Ha you flatter me but no compared to olympic level atheletes I'm a weak peice of shit. There guys that have no problem doing under 2 hours.

    This is REALLY beside the point, but the world record for the marathon is 2:03 and depending on the race winners regularly finish in the 2:20s...so, not sure what to make of this. In any case, sounds like you don't have anything to be ashamed of in that department.

  • honkymcgoohonkymcgoo Registered User regular
    Do you have any friends that are girls? That you can just hang out with? Or do you just find it impossible to relate to all girls in any setting?

    I didn't even know what the fuck and avitar was until about 5 minutes ago.
  • PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    honkymcgoo wrote: »
    Do you have any friends that are girls? That you can just hang out with? Or do you just find it impossible to relate to all girls in any setting?

    Yes I do... in before herp a durp you desire to actually manage to get a girlfriend you must a creepy bastard that views women only as having worth due to their genitals.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Okay this thread is not going to be productive so I'm closing it.

    I will tell you right now that the only muscle in your body preventing you from having a healthy and fulfilling relationship with the companionship you desire is your brain. Your commentary on what people are saying is worthless and smacks of someone who doesn't actually read it but instead is just fishing for some compliments to quicken you a little bit. You are not taking anything said to you to heart and this is not what we're here for.

    Contrary to what some may believe, we are not here for you to sit around sounding depressed at. If you actually want to know how to get actual help, feel free to make a new thread.

    That may sound harsh, but there is literally nothing else for me to tell you. It's good that you have a therapist now, because H/A is not stand-in therapy. If you don't want to see prostitutes, stop seeing prostitutes. If you want to keep doing it, it's your money. If you want a meaningful relationship with another human being stop being such a self-centered echo-chamber of depression and start finding and taking steps to better yourself. If you want to keep the echo chamber for now no one is going to stop you, but they aren't going to want to fucking hear about it either.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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