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Help me not dress like a hobo...
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Actually, I think hobo's probably dress way better then I do. I need help here.
Backstory: So, I've lost a lot of weight in the last two years, as I've mentioned here before... something to the tune of like, 190 lbs. Back then, I really didn't care how I dressed, or really about much of anything at all, and considering I had to go to a "special store" to buy clothes, it was really just a hodgepodge of crappy tent sized items.
Now: So, I've lost a ton of weight, feeling pretty good about myself, not exactly where I want to be weight/muscle wise but light years ahead of where I was, but I still find I'm dressing like I did back then. Most of my clothes are ironic t-shirts from Threadless or stuff off the bargain rack at Target. Since I'm actually looking to start dating, I'd like to know what I should be getting. I've included some photos from today... I'm actually not dressed terribly today, but this is well outside the norm.
Okay H/A... dress me like I was a slightly more anatomically correct Ken doll... then, next time, I can post a thread asking for relationship advice after I've done something stupid. Help me be that guy!
http://imgur.com/a/akbQm
please forgive the image quality... taking pictures of yourself is harder then I would have thought...
Backstory: So, I've lost a lot of weight in the last two years, as I've mentioned here before... something to the tune of like, 190 lbs. Back then, I really didn't care how I dressed, or really about much of anything at all, and considering I had to go to a "special store" to buy clothes, it was really just a hodgepodge of crappy tent sized items.
Now: So, I've lost a ton of weight, feeling pretty good about myself, not exactly where I want to be weight/muscle wise but light years ahead of where I was, but I still find I'm dressing like I did back then. Most of my clothes are ironic t-shirts from Threadless or stuff off the bargain rack at Target. Since I'm actually looking to start dating, I'd like to know what I should be getting. I've included some photos from today... I'm actually not dressed terribly today, but this is well outside the norm.
Okay H/A... dress me like I was a slightly more anatomically correct Ken doll... then, next time, I can post a thread asking for relationship advice after I've done something stupid. Help me be that guy!
http://imgur.com/a/akbQm
please forgive the image quality... taking pictures of yourself is harder then I would have thought...
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How about this: Are you looking for casual? Business? Shorts? Pants? Just as a starting point, I think figuring out an outfit or two to start with is a good idea, rather than letting the internet en masse fill up your closet.
http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/
might be of help until someone here that looks really good gets back to you. If you want business, I imagine finding some khakis that are less relaxed fit would do wonders itself.
Should be some semi decent advice there.
Avoid skinny jeans. Also don't fret too much about the shoes. Focus entirely on shirts/sweaters and pants.
http://i.imgur.com/P5YkO.jpg
Don't look like that guy.
Those khakis look like they're too big because, they're too big. Avoid relaxed fit and boot-cut on pants.
You can then go buy things at Macy's or a store that has generally cheaper prices. The reason you to to Express first is that the majority of their "nice" clothes look really sharp and will give you a solid idea of how you COULD look with the right clothes. If you just go to Macy's, you may still shop with the idea of buying for your old body, and they have many more options that are not flattering for a young, slimmer guy.
Some basic advice: Pleated pants are for bigger men; button-up shirts should be fitted in some way or else they'll look overly baggy on a slimmer body; don't be afraid to ask for advice from the people at the stores; you can look good in a t-shirt and jacket/full-zip sweater, but it's hard to look good in cargo pants and hoodies.
In fashion and hipster circles. Not in your day to day. Aside from the CEO taking a dump in the bathroom.
Last thing I notice is someone's shoes in a personal setting. It should not be his focus for "looking good."
If you're not comfortable with your casual wear picks, beef up or modernize your dress wear and then just dress it down for social occasions. For example I wear long sleeve button down shirts (tucked), over a a black or grey undershirt, non-denim trousers, and semi-dressy shoes for work. When I leave work I might: roll up the shirt cuff twice and unbutton top few shirt buttons, roll the cuff and untuck shirt and unbutton shirt entirely, change into jeans, change into less dressy shoes. To dress up I might add a blazer or coat of some kind, or change into slacks, or add a tie. Since you're wearing the same clothes as you do all day at work you shouldn't feel too self conscious, or at least it's not the clothes fault unless you feel under/over-dressed (IMO).
More important than color pairing or styles is picking clothes that fit you right. You need to figure that out on your own or bring a friend, personally I don't trust sales people very much when it comes to clothing selection. When clothes shopping it's OK to try on lots of stuff and not even buy anything, and maybe that's what you need to do to figure out what feels right for fit. When picking shirt colors, look in the mirror, then put on the shirt and look in mirror again. A good color/texture is one that makes your complexion and skin tone look nicer or at least doesn't make you look too sallow, pale, ruddy, or whatever you personally consider to be off-putting.
You are incorrect.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092656612000608
I agree with this. I'm 6'3 and now about 240. I was always tall and buying clothes to make me fit, I always got the looser fitting stuff in sizes that were actually too small for me. When I went up a size, went to a tighter fit, it looked like I lost weight. Cut and style is important and forget the size.
1) Shoes. They really are an important part of impression management. A pair of well polished black leather bluchers will go with anything. If you don't wear suits much then go dark brown/cordovan, which IMHO is a more versatile color. If you just want something for date night with jeans, then maybe a pair of Frye pull-on brown harness or engineer boots? Socks should match your shoe color.
2) Shirts. Buy properly fitted dress shirts. Unless you're one of the rare few that fit the cut of <insert_mass_produced_brand_name_here>, you're better off just figuring out your collar size and sleeve length, and going from there. Want to be a bit more formal? Button down sports shirts. If you still want to go with <insert_mass_produced_brand_name_here>, then at the very least steer clear of so-called "classic fit", and go for "slim cut" or "custom fit", as these tend to be cut closer to the torso and look much better. Something with vertical stripes and darker hue, more slimming.
3) Doesn't matter what pants you get, just make sure they're of the correct waist/length. Don't guess, get measured. Depends on you where you want your pants to sit at, but for date night low hanging jeans might not be a good idea, and pants that sit at the natural waist might not look too fashionable these days. Somewhere in between. Also up to you what kind of you break you want in your pants. Light khakis are universal (I personally love pleats, but only classic European-style pleats, not American-style reverse pleats. Some people hate them with a passion.). Darker jeans are more formal, lighter jeans are more casual. Don't wear skinny jeans that are tighter than your date's...
4) Jacket. We're entering fall/winter. A nice sports jacket will go well with everything from T-shirts and jeans to shirts and slacks. That and you can drape it over the lady when she gets cold. Chivalry is not dead! Dark navy is the classic color, but makes me think of conferences and conventions. Ask your salesperson if you're not sure what color/pattern to get.
5) Iron and board. Helps a lot. Part of the reason you pants look like clown pants is because there's no longer any crease on them (that I can see from the photo).
6) Bring a lady friend when you go shopping. Mother, sister, cousin, co-worker, doesn't really matter. I find most women just have a good natural intuition for what looks good on a guy.
Or any local clothes store that has a somewhat wide selection. There's bound to be someone there who'd be happy to help you, and it's fine to tell them that you're on a budget, if that's the case.
I'm a pretty thin dude and a lot of my old clothes is from Target, and that stuff just ends up making you look like a frumpy hobo (which is what I dress like most of the time anyway because I haven't replaced all my wardrobe from my awkward college years)
I'm not sure what kind of work dress codes you have to abide by, but in my limited fashion experience, high quality casual clothing >>>>>>>>>> low quality (read: target) business casual
Don't wear chinos if you don't gotta
My favorite store in the universe is Lucky which you can find in some nicer malls. Aesthetically conservative casual clothing that will pass in most business casual environments... form fitting without being skin tight european nonsense (like, say, Deisel)
I recommend just finding a nice mall and look EVERYWHERE, and try and find the style you like, and just buy one or two outfits maximum at a time, wear them, decide how you like them, and then repeat
In terms of shoes: Doc Martens are A+, Clarks are a nice, dressier alternative without being formalwear
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
2 - Get some good jeans. Go to Nordstrom or similar, preferably with a fashion-conscious woman. Make sure you look good by THEIR standards, not yours. Don't go too tight, skinny jeans are dumb.
3 - Shirts - get some nice button downs and form fitting tight knits/sweaters. If you're worried about "pulling it off", get some nice plaids that complement your eyes to break up your profile.
4 - Shoes - good leather shoes. Get comfy ones, but make sure they're more sleek than they are chunky.
The other things to understand:
1. Colors - Find yours. I have some red hair and freckles with grey/blue eyes, therefore I work best with Green, Orange and light blues as my dominant palette
2. Fit - What are your best features? Mine are my legs and my eyes, so the main lesson was to wear better fitting pants and wear things that bring out the color (my eyes change color based on what I'm wearing).
3. Confidence - Have it. This is the #1 thing when it comes to rolling around to bars/clubs etc. Remember that you are a bad-ass motherfucker, no matter what anyone else tells you.
Don't go too trendy with your choices, as you'll want to first build up a more classic set of looks that you can riff on. There's a reason certain things like nice t-shirt and jeans, suits etc. have never gone out of style. Once you get the staples down, start interpreting in ways you enjoy.
Let me quote a couple of important posts:
Start by simplifying
The Essential Man's Wardrobe
25 Things to Know
They also have a video series you can watch here.
If you're looking for casual things to wear on dates I would go for a pair of darker jeans that fit you very well (not skinny jeans, but jeans that show the shape of your leg when you move). I don't know if guys do this like girls do, but check out your butt in the jeans. I've noticed a lot of guys buy/wear jeans that give them a saggy butt look; being able to see the contours in a guy when he walks is nice. Personally I think a pair of jeans that fit well can look incredibly good when paired in the right way. Also I agree with what people said above that a slim/athletic fit button down shirt with shoes that fit your personality is a good choice. I do think shoes are noticed and different types of shoes can give off different vibes. I think the type of shoe you wear should be determined by what you're comfortable with, what type of people you are trying to attract and what the location/situation is.
Why not? Maybe it's just a regional thing? I see people here in Portland, SF, and up in Seattle (and in France when I was there) using them as dress jeans all the time.
I think maybe your problem is that you're thinking of the skin tight jeans that taper down sharply. My jeans fit, and fit well, but I can breath in them. They're not the "ex-girlfriend" jeans which look more like jeggings.
I think they're thinking of the hipster skinny jeans with the straight legs set as ankle width. They always make lower bodies look like fatty sausages hanging from diapers.
For pleats, reverse pleats seem to be coming back into style, particularly single pleats, which I haven't seen before this year but are probably the best style for most men (from reading, they disappeared during the excessive pleating era of the eighties and were skipped when people switched to flat fronts).
I'm not sure what's wrong with chinos, and I've recently become fond of a pair of navy corduroys I received after my parents cleaned their attack. Pretty sure they were my dad's (apparently he was fond of the material in college, even wearing a corduroy suit he got on discount for a while before realizing why it had been on discount).
you just need clothes that fit you, that will solve 99 percent of your issues
This is true...
Tight jeans != Skinny Jeans
Looking at the pants you linked, those are almost between skinny and normal and probably suit your body type well. That said, the fashion hobos of major metro areas aren't necessarily where some random guy should take his cues from for normal wear. You start with the classics, then go towards the directions you suit you. You don't start with wayfarers, skinny jeans, those silly leather boot things and a fashion plaid, because that's not you yet, you're just a person in a costume. Eventually that may be your go-to, but as the first step? Nah.
You also realize you mentioned the top 4 hipster areas other than NYC, right?
If it makes you feel any better, I can't physically fit into skinny jeans due to being a skier/bicyclist.