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Parents are getting harassing phone calls. How to stop?
My parents constantly get harassing phone calls from con artists trying to scam money from my parents (think Nigerian email scam, but over the phone). Fortunately, my parents aren't naive enough to fall for it, but they cannot get the calls to stop. Apparently the majority of the calls are coming from a Jamaican area code and come many times a day. When my parents have asked these callers to please stop calling, the callers get verbally abusive. My parents are no longer answering the phone if they don't recognize the caller ID, but I'd like to get the calls to stop completely.
My parents have talked to the local police and to Time Warner looking for help and have gotten zero assistance. The cops say they can't do anything because the calls are originating from outside the country and won't offer up any additional options they can try. Time Warner allows my parents to block individual numbers, but the callers keep changing (possibly spoofing) their caller ID, so blocking individual numbers is an ultimately futile effort. My parents have dozens of numbers blocked and the calls continue. When my parents called Time Warner, they were told TW was unable to do anything to block the calls. My parents asked them to block all incoming calls from the particular Jamaican area code and, failing that, all incoming international calls altogether, but were met with a brick wall and told TW could not do that. When asked to be escalated to a supervisor, the answer is always the same: "I just spoke to my supervisor and he said we can't block incoming calls." All attempts to have my parents actually speak to a supervisor have failed.
Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to stop these calls?
Often people that answer email requests have more power than people that answer the phones, so you could attempt to contact them that way. If that doesn't work, go to Time Warner's facebook page and start complaining that nobody is helping you. I don't see where you live with these newfangled boards (I know, they're like a year old or something already) but if it's in the states, try to get ahold of a local branch of the FBI if all of the above fails.
A more radical but permanent solution: have your parents change their phone number. It's going to cause some disruption, to be sure, but in the long run it might be preferable.
They've somehow ended up on a suckers list. It sucks that they'll have to do it but it would probably be quicker and easier to just request a new number than play constant catch up with blocking the unwanteds.
I'm not in any way advising that your parents should do the same but this worked when I was getting similar calls.
I kept a fog horn (like you'd find on a boat) next to my phone. When I recognised the number (which was easy since they had literally been calling upwards of six times a day) I immediately picked up the phone and foghorned. Apparently more legitimate call centres have volume correction systems to prevent this but its a fair bet that Nigerian scam artists do not.
Again, I'm not saying they should, nor do I take responsibility for any legal or ethical consequences. I'm just saying it worked in my case.
Fun though that would be, I suspect that this isn't the same people calling but that the number is being passed around, probably faster than any 'don't call them if you want to keep your eardrums' message would.
Fun though that would be, I suspect that this isn't the same people calling but that the number is being passed around, probably faster than any 'don't call them if you want to keep your eardrums' message would.
It'd be noted really quickly on those lists, though.
The company should be able to block international calls.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Your parents might try contacting the Better Business Bureau and making a complaint against Time Warner if they're unwilling to help them resolve the issue - especially if TW is refusing to escalate the calls to a manager or supervisor. We had an issue a while back with Chase Home Finance calling our number constantly for some guy who wasn't us (and whom we didn't know) and not being able to fix their wrong number issue - Chase just gave us crap reason after crap reason. Once I complained via BBB it got sorted out very quickly. I think they should give it a try - they really have nothing to lose in trying, but it may come out that the solution ends up being your parents having to get a new number anyway, so they should be prepared for that if it comes to it.
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zepherinRussian warship, go fuck yourselfRegistered Userregular
edited October 2012
On a related but tangental note as an added bit of security for people who want to avoid getting spam but are putting their phone number out there. Get a google voice number (it's free) and put that number out as the number to call, and have google forward it to your actual phone number (also free), and then when you start getting creeps it's just a point and click operation to mark the phone numbers spam. Also useful for dating, when you want them to contact you but you don't know them well enough to use your real number. And if they get super crazy get a new gvoice number and get rid of the old.
I'm inclined to say your parents are going to have to change their number. I'd advise going with zepherin's plan of having a Google Voice number to put out to the public, and a separate number for the actual line only given out to friends and family.
That being said, some things you can try:
1) File a report with the FBI and your local Secret Service field office. Sounds weird, but as a division of the Department of the Treasury, protection details for the President and others is only a part of the Secret Service's mandate; they also deal with financial crimes. I don't know if either group will be able to help you.
2) Contact the FTC and FCC. File complaints about Time Warner with both.
3) Social media. Talk about your shitty treatment by Time Warner on social media, especially Twitter. Use #TimeWarnerSucks.
4) You can try getting ahold of Time Warner's executive customer service. A quick Google points to this number: 212-364-8300 But Lord knows if that's any good. If you can get ahold of the number for their executive switchboard (i.e. the CEO's number), they can probably direct you to the executive customer service. These guys are usually more capable and have more power than the mooks at the lower levels of the customer service ladder.
"I'm speaking to your supervisor right now, or you can cancel my account and I'll switch to one of the other dozen providers in the area." Bam.
Landlines don't have contracts like ell phones, so just do this. And if they STILL refuse, just....actually cancel the service and switch providers. Screw them.
do your parents have cell phones as well? do they absolutely need the landline for anything? i would say it's almost worth it just to cut the landline and go exclusively to mobile phones, but i know lots of people still like having their hardwired phone in case of emergencies and things.
If your parents have a sense of humour and a good poker face, they could try what my dad did - after weeks of getting calls from someone offering to "fix a bug in your windows machine" he had some time to kill and a bone to pick so he put on his best fake accent and the following conversation ensued:
Scammer: Hello, I'm calling from Microsoft to inform you that your Windows computer has a programming error. To fix this you only need to give me (some number that will allow me to fuck with everything remotely).
Inept Foreigner (played by my father): Yes, yes, window at my computer totally busted. Big hole, big problems.
S: No, sir, there is a bug in your computer that I need to fix.
IF: Yes, bugs everywhere. Bugs on my computer, bugs on my chair, bugs in my food. Terrible problem. I need you right away to come and fix my windows.
Like I said, my dad had some time to kill. This act continued for about 10 minutes while my family tried to stifle their laughter, hearing only his end of the conversation. Finally I think my dad got bored with the increasingly frustrated caller and ended with "Look, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. You can't fix my computer or my windows so I am going to say goodbye to you now" and hung up. I only regret that the conversation wasn't recorded for posterity.
That was the last call from "Microsoft". I'm sure the strategy could be modified for a Nigerian prince.
Have them take stock in how many actual calls they make or receive via the land line (A), the number of people that would have to be informed of a number change (B), and assign a 1 - 10 value on how difficult it would be for them to drop the land line entirely (C).
A - B = X. If X > C, have them switch to cellular phones.
"I'm speaking to your supervisor right now, or you can cancel my account and I'll switch to one of the other dozen providers in the area." Bam.
Landlines don't have contracts like ell phones, so just do this. And if they STILL refuse, just....actually cancel the service and switch providers. Screw them.
This doesn't really work as much as it did now. I think it's just because the tier 1 call centers have such high turnover that no one really cares if you stay a customer.
What is this I don't even.
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MichaelLCIn what furnace was thy brain?ChicagoRegistered Userregular
The company should be able to block international calls.
Is this an option? Seems like the telco should be able to handle that.
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ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
Don't fuck with them, just turn the whole thing over to the FBI.
It strikes me as really strange though that your phone company can't block incoming international calls. That sounds off and I would just keep escalating until you can find someone in the company who can at least explain to you why that is.
And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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Zilla36021st Century. |She/Her|Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered Userregular
You could try switching them over to a VOIP setup if possible. Asterisk has blocking features that would allow for your home phone to drop/dump calls from specified country codes automatically.
If your parents have a sense of humour and a good poker face, they could try what my dad did - after weeks of getting calls from someone offering to "fix a bug in your windows machine" he had some time to kill and a bone to pick so he put on his best fake accent and the following conversation ensued:
Scammer: Hello, I'm calling from Microsoft to inform you that your Windows computer has a programming error. To fix this you only need to give me (some number that will allow me to fuck with everything remotely).
Inept Foreigner (played by my father): Yes, yes, window at my computer totally busted. Big hole, big problems.
S: No, sir, there is a bug in your computer that I need to fix.
IF: Yes, bugs everywhere. Bugs on my computer, bugs on my chair, bugs in my food. Terrible problem. I need you right away to come and fix my windows.
Like I said, my dad had some time to kill. This act continued for about 10 minutes while my family tried to stifle their laughter, hearing only his end of the conversation. Finally I think my dad got bored with the increasingly frustrated caller and ended with "Look, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. You can't fix my computer or my windows so I am going to say goodbye to you now" and hung up. I only regret that the conversation wasn't recorded for posterity.
That was the last call from "Microsoft".
I get those occasionally too, I relish the opportunity to troll them and fuck with their minds. All my machines/devices besides the Xbox are Ubuntu/Android, so I only run Windows XP from time to time for games.
I was lucky enough to be sitting at my Linux machine last time one of them called, I managed to keep up the pretence of being IT illiterate for almost twenty minutes before I finally came clean that I wasn't even running windows. They'd never even heard of the word 'Linux' before, & didn't understand what VOIP was, so I pretended to have traced their number.
They and someone else suddenly whispered "Clever bitch", and then the line went dead. :rotate: :bz
My parents recently had exactly the same issue: their number was sold by the Telus dealer (authorized but locally owned little asshole shop) to some sucker's list when they were setting it up, and we received maybe 20 calls per day from various scams, local businesses, etc.
Unfortunately, the only way to make it stop was to change the damn phone number.
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I kept a fog horn (like you'd find on a boat) next to my phone. When I recognised the number (which was easy since they had literally been calling upwards of six times a day) I immediately picked up the phone and foghorned. Apparently more legitimate call centres have volume correction systems to prevent this but its a fair bet that Nigerian scam artists do not.
Again, I'm not saying they should, nor do I take responsibility for any legal or ethical consequences. I'm just saying it worked in my case.
The company should be able to block international calls.
That being said, some things you can try:
1) File a report with the FBI and your local Secret Service field office. Sounds weird, but as a division of the Department of the Treasury, protection details for the President and others is only a part of the Secret Service's mandate; they also deal with financial crimes. I don't know if either group will be able to help you.
2) Contact the FTC and FCC. File complaints about Time Warner with both.
3) Social media. Talk about your shitty treatment by Time Warner on social media, especially Twitter. Use #TimeWarnerSucks.
4) You can try getting ahold of Time Warner's executive customer service. A quick Google points to this number: 212-364-8300 But Lord knows if that's any good. If you can get ahold of the number for their executive switchboard (i.e. the CEO's number), they can probably direct you to the executive customer service. These guys are usually more capable and have more power than the mooks at the lower levels of the customer service ladder.
Landlines don't have contracts like ell phones, so just do this. And if they STILL refuse, just....actually cancel the service and switch providers. Screw them.
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Scammer: Hello, I'm calling from Microsoft to inform you that your Windows computer has a programming error. To fix this you only need to give me (some number that will allow me to fuck with everything remotely).
Inept Foreigner (played by my father): Yes, yes, window at my computer totally busted. Big hole, big problems.
S: No, sir, there is a bug in your computer that I need to fix.
IF: Yes, bugs everywhere. Bugs on my computer, bugs on my chair, bugs in my food. Terrible problem. I need you right away to come and fix my windows.
Like I said, my dad had some time to kill. This act continued for about 10 minutes while my family tried to stifle their laughter, hearing only his end of the conversation. Finally I think my dad got bored with the increasingly frustrated caller and ended with "Look, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. You can't fix my computer or my windows so I am going to say goodbye to you now" and hung up. I only regret that the conversation wasn't recorded for posterity.
That was the last call from "Microsoft". I'm sure the strategy could be modified for a Nigerian prince.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIVfrBFc5og
A - B = X. If X > C, have them switch to cellular phones.
This doesn't really work as much as it did now. I think it's just because the tier 1 call centers have such high turnover that no one really cares if you stay a customer.
Is this an option? Seems like the telco should be able to handle that.
It strikes me as really strange though that your phone company can't block incoming international calls. That sounds off and I would just keep escalating until you can find someone in the company who can at least explain to you why that is.
Asterisk has blocking features that would allow for your home phone to drop/dump calls from specified country codes automatically.
I was lucky enough to be sitting at my Linux machine last time one of them called, I managed to keep up the pretence of being IT illiterate for almost twenty minutes before I finally came clean that I wasn't even running windows. They'd never even heard of the word 'Linux' before, & didn't understand what VOIP was, so I pretended to have traced their number.
They and someone else suddenly whispered "Clever bitch", and then the line went dead. :rotate: :bz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgbiaTf3NQs
Unfortunately, the only way to make it stop was to change the damn phone number.
You might have to do that.
Yeah there's no reason you shouldn't be able to "Hi I'd like to only receive phone calls from the US, so block all international callers."