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Drugged or just an awful reaction because of alcohol intake?

DM0DM0 Registered User new member
I don't know if this is the right place to discuss this, but this seemed like a forum to ask for some advice.

I went out clubbing with 2 friends on Wednesday night. I had 5-7 vodka shots and was pretty high. I last remember sitting next to a friend and talking to her. This is around 10:30. I don't remember anything after that.

I know it sounds like an everyday issue but it's not, because my behavior after that was atrocious.

According to her, I had at first almost passed out on the dance floor. Then, when she took me downstairs, I was walking fine. Fine enough to know what was happening. She went up to get some lime water and when she came down, a random boy/man was holding me. And after she pulled me away from him, I behaved like a maniac.

I could not stand on my feet, every time someone touched me I'd scream "don't touch me", I was screaming my lungs out for reasons that nobody could figure out, I was lying like a dead body on the floor of my home and screaming incessantly, I was physically violent to my friends, sister and relatives at one moment and the next moment I'd pass out for a few seconds and again start screaming and being violent, and this happened several number of times. I quote from a friend : "You were acting possessed."

This screaming and "don't touch me" went on till 3 am in the morning after which people could finally get me to sleep off.

My friend, who also had 4 vodka shots and 2-3 glasses of beer, remembers everything. The other friend who also had a lot to drink and could not stand on her feet, but when she reached home, she passed out peacefully without uttering a word, whereas my behavior was insane and memory was wiped out. I woke up at my relatives place and had absolutely no clue about the previous night. Even parts that I should remember, I can't.

I understand if the above does not grab your interest, so please do not post anything irrelevant as that night had severe consequences to my mental health and affected a lot of people who witnessed me that night.

Thank you for listening.

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  • CreamstoutCreamstout What you think I program for, to push a fuckin' quad-core? Registered User regular
    Alcohol reactions differ from person to person. In my younger years I would get liquored up beyond the point of memory and act belligerent. My best advice is to monitor your drink input before you get to this point. 5-7 vodka shots would get me pretty tipsy and I'm a rather large person (235 lbs). If you can't monitor your alcohol intake when you go out find something else to do. Sounds like you have pretty good friends it could of been a lot worse. Chalk this up to a learning experience.

  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    DM0 wrote: »
    I had 5-7 vodka shots and was pretty high.

    High on what?

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    How much do you weigh? Man or woman? You had a fair amount of alcohol.

  • NamrokNamrok Registered User regular
    How much do you weigh? Man or woman? You had a fair amount of alcohol.

    Yeah, not just that but did you have anything to eat? Did you get a good nights sleep the night before? Did you work out that day? Had you stayed hydrated the last few days?

    90% of the time I can drink a ton. But every now and again there is this perfect storm of me doing everything wrong and about half the alcohol I normally drink knocks me completely off my ass.

  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    If you WERE drugged you'll never know because that was a fuckton of alcohol to drink on top of whatever other drug you were doing. And I don't think any sings point to a drugging. Things matter like how big you are, how the drinks are spaced, if you're hydrating, and if you took something else or it was just the alcohol. If you aren't a giant and those shots were all done pretty close together (and you can't even remember how many?), a person who wanted to do something to you wouldn't NEED to drug you; they could just wait you out.

    In future count your drinks properly and keep tabs on them. If you go out with the intention of cramming as much alcohol into your body as you can before you pass out, eventually something bad will happen. I know this from experience; you were lucky this time, you won't be every time. It's a learning experience, be more responsible next time.

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    did you eat much? i know i went out one day, after running a bunch of errands and not eating anything, had a few shots and a few beers which normally wouldn't take me to the danger zone. That day, I was completely obliterated, black out drunk. Like people said, sometimes mixing booze and drugs can have unexpected side effects as well. I'm assuming you had smoked a lot of weed? I don't think there is any way to really know for sure if you were drugged or not without blood work.

    If you were drinking actual shots, it's very unlikely you were drugged, unless a stranger bought them and brought them to you. if you got them directly from the bartender, and then put them directly in your mouth, you probably weren't drugged. Drugged or no, be sure to keep track of your drinks (like, keep them with you), and how much you are throwing back in the future. it sucks blacking out and finding out you acted like a goose all night.

  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    I've known people who get like that, I've also known people who mellow out, or people who completely pass out after just a few drinks. Sounds like a clear case of someone not knowing their limits and drastically overstepping those limits. Congratulations, you're one of the toxic super freakout drunks. Know that and try not to drink so much in the future.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Unfortunately, barring a battery of tests, it's impossible to know (and even then, I'd imagine that for some drugs it would still be impossible to know). If you left a drink unattended or a girl gave you a drink she got from someone, then there's a higher chance something was slipped in it. But it's entirely possible that you were just more drunk than usual and the environment/situation caused you to act out differently.

    Either way, you drank quite a bit more than is necessary to be buzzed and have a good time.

  • FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    In my limited experience of mixing drugs and alcohol (marihuana, cocaine, LSD ) none of those would get that kind of reaction and memory loss.
    alcohol+pot= blood pressure goes down, you pass out.
    alcohol+coke=temporarily cancels the effects of alcohol.
    alcohol+LSD=conducive to halucination (distorted colours, etc. not halucination like in cartoons)

    Knowing what you felt the day after, what kind of hangover you had can be a sign to what you had. like, really thick/sticky mouth usually goes with opiates, having your mind clear of any thought is more of a sign of halucinogens (mostly lab manufactured stuff). Rejection for solid foods, feeling sick, slight fever, dehidratation, pulsating headaches etc. are mostly signs of alcohol alone.

    Having said that, I do agree with the rest that this is probably the effect of how much alcohol you had, and you can honestly say that you are a VERY lucky person with good friends that looked after you, because in such advanced state of intoxication you are mostly rendered defenseless, physically and mentally. It is truly a situation to avoid.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    being belligerent and screaming is not the typical result of "roofies" or the various other club drugs that people surreptitiously put in drinks; usually people looking to take advantage of you use some kind of mild sedative.

    It's possible you were given some kind of hallucinogen, which in my experience would be more consistent with the behavior described. Of course, it could also be the case that you were just blackout drunk and previously mixing substances and this led to you being obnoxious. It seems fairly unlikely that some guy was in a dance club handing out blotters (at most clubs anyway; otherwise it's the kind of place you'd presumably know you were going to), so you were probably just drunk and acting the fool.

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  • DisrupterDisrupter Registered User regular
    I smoked weed once...one time, and I acted slightly similar to the way you were describing. Then I realized how weird I was being, regained my composure and went entirely in another direction, sitting silent for 3 hours, never saying a word because I was so freaked out about what I did for the previous hour or 2.

    Not sure WHY weed did that to me. Never cared to try it again to find out. Ive always assumed something else was up with what I smoked that day. Perhaps something was also up with whatever got you high? Mixing that with booze would probably end up with the mess of a human being you were for a night. But yeah, if you were drugged it would have been to date rape you, which would have been the opposite of what you ended up being like.

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    Drink begats more drink. The 5-7 shots you remember might have just been the prelude to another 5-7 that you don't remember buying/having bought for you.

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2012
    Drink begats more drink. The 5-7 shots you remember might have just been the prelude to another 5-7 that you don't remember buying/having bought for you.

    I tend to think this. Any time you drink until you can't remember anymore, you can be sure one of the things you forgot is how much you drank. I had a few nights in college that were only better than your experience because my friends and I were all boring losers.

    I mean, even what you remember you can't pin down, that's a good sign it was too much. The difference between 5 shots and 7 can already be quite a bit, I find drinking hard liquor I sometimes hit a very sudden tipping point from "Can drive home just fine" to "can't walk to the bathroom under my own power." If there were any more drinks you don't remember, they could add up fast after that point.

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  • DeadfallDeadfall I don't think you realize just how rich he is. In fact, I should put on a monocle.Registered User regular
    edited October 2012
    Hevach wrote: »
    Drink begats more drink. The 5-7 shots you remember might have just been the prelude to another 5-7 that you don't remember buying/having bought for you.

    I tend to think this. Any time you drink until you can't remember anymore, you can be sure one of the things you forgot is how much you drank. I had a few nights in college that were only better than your experience because my friends and I were all boring losers.

    I mean, even what you remember you can't pin down, that's a good sign it was too much. The difference between 5 shots and 7 can already be quite a bit, I find drinking hard liquor I sometimes hit a very sudden tipping point from "Can drive home just fine" to "can't walk to the bathroom under my own power." If there were any more drinks you don't remember, they could add up fast after that point.

    This exactly. I can enjoy beer all night and enjoy myself and stay calm, but with hard liquor there's a very fine line between buzzed and completely wrecked. For me it's like, "Okay, feeling good. Start looking up cab numbers right after this next shot!" And then one shot later suddenly it's morning and I'm in the bathtub fully clothed but somehow wearing bright orange oversized novelty sunglasses and a feather boa.

    And that's why I don't drink hard liquor anymore.

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited October 2012
    Nah, i've been drugged before. You just drank to much and whatever else it was you were on reacting with it. Being drugged sucks, I had a bottle of water at a party I was at drugged by a girl I knew (I dont drink much, so she was trying to get me more messed up.) and its awful. You'd know it without a doubt for sure. You start blacking out randomly when you know you shouldn't be, you lose all kinds of energy, you end up knowing whats going on around you but it just doesn't really register in your head. I was lucky enough to have said girls best friend steal me from the party and drive me home and put me in bed. Not even going to talk about what the details before that were. Let's just say you definitely know whats going on, it's just stuff doesn't really function right. At least in my case this is how it was and i'd drank significantly less than you. 7 vodka shots is a lot. The things that stick out to me the most are that you were screaming and belligerent, that definitely didnt happen for me, i lost my willpower/energy completely and i lost a lot of memory of what happened (The person who took me home told me about most of it the morning after.). To me it really feels like you just got really drunk and belligerent.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    Even parts that I should remember, I can't.

    Unless you’re a big man and had a full stomach you probably shouldn’t remember much after 7 vodka shots in one night.

    Sounds like you just let your binge drinking go way too far. But it could have been a bad reaction to marijuna or club drugs that you may have taken and forgotten because you blacked out on vokda. Anyway, blackouts are a sign that you need to get your drinking under control or you will end up in a hospital/morgue. You should probably start dropping in on AA meetings and find friends who don’t party so hard.

  • InxInx Registered User regular
    Something I'd like to say is that even though you behaved like that when you were really, really impaired doesn't mean you're a bad person. Anyone who tells you different isn't your friend. It could just be that alcohol brings out certain things in you. If that's the case, it doesn't mean you've got a demon in you, it doesn't mean you're burying some kind of trauma, all it means is that maybe you shouldn't drink so much.

    If you hate the way you behave when you drink but you KEEP drinking, that's when you might need to consider seeking help. Until then, don't beat yourself up over it, and avoid people who beat you up over it.

    I once got really, really drunk, gave a guy I hated 200 dollars, and apparently called one of my best friends some pretty awful names. The next day I found the 200 bucks, with a note that said "stop drinking" from the guy I hated. When I called my friend and tried to apologize he laughed and asked if I wanted to grab lunch. Shit happens with booze gets involved.

  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    When you're intoxicated enough to black out it is entirely possible that you start acting abnormally. As often as not this manifests as belligerence to your friends and agreeableness to strangers, though it could manifest as detachment and sedation. You are just not there anymore, and whatever is piloting your body doesn't act or speak the way you normally do. Also, you probably continued to drink after you were no longer storing/writing memories of your behavior.

    You'll probably only know if you get a drug screen, but I think it unlikely you were drugged.

  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Djeet wrote: »
    When you're intoxicated enough to black out it is entirely possible that you start acting abnormally. As often as not this manifests as belligerence to your friends and agreeableness to strangers, though it could manifest as detachment and sedation. You are just not there anymore, and whatever is piloting your body doesn't act or speak the way you normally do. Also, you probably continued to drink after you were no longer storing/writing memories of your behavior.

    You'll probably only know if you get a drug screen, but I think it unlikely you were drugged.

    Nope. Too late for that. 12 hours in the system.

  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited October 2012
    Welcome to the violent, psychotic drunk blackout. Some people are just predisposed towards that type of reaction. I've heard of studies indicating that there is a genetic component to it.

    How much you drink and importantly, how fast you drink will directly affect if you have a blackout or not. Personally I find smoking weed and drinking makes me much more inclined to having a blackout, but I can't speak to this on a factual basis.

    You need to be very, very careful with your drinking from now on. I can't stress how serious these violent blackouts can be. You are lucky you didn't wake up the next day in jail or in a hospital or whatever.

    I get these blackouts bad. Really bad. I quit drinking alcohol as a result.

    Also the whole "I forget things I should remember" thing - your brain stops forming memories when you are in this state. Its not that the memories are buried in your mind, waiting for you to remember. They were never created in the first place.

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    You could request a Urine test for specific drugs in your system, the more time pass, the less likely they will find something.

    There is also a standard test that's performed on girls who go out on a date and cannot remember certain things (rape).

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  • iRevertiRevert Tactical Martha Stewart Registered User regular
    being belligerent and screaming is not the typical result of "roofies" or the various other club drugs that people surreptitiously put in drinks;

    Bath salts on the other hand...

    But no I'm going to go for "Getting drunk and making an ass out of yourself for $300", Alex

  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    By they way, I forgot to tell you, intake of alcohol increases the half life of drugs in your system.

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  • RaekreuRaekreu Registered User regular
    Basically, it sounds like you had a brush with alcohol poisoning - too much liquor in too short a time. Also, if you were high (assuming pot, here) then that was very likely a contributing factor.

  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    Yes, you just drank too much. I'm guessing that you had little to nothing to eat beforehand, too. Don't sweat it, we've all been there, and if you're worried about how your friends will react, they understand that you were drunk and shit happens. If anything, you owe 'em one for taking care of you, which is best repaid when they get too drunk in the future.

    So you're good, don't sweat it.

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  • TaphouseTaphouse Registered User regular
    Unfortunately a comment by a random guy on a forum won't count for much or make an impact, but I'd be extremely careful if I were you. As in, don't ever let this happen again - whether you're in the position of getting drugged or simply drinking too much. People aren't themselves when this happens and their lives can get ruined. I've seen it happen. Count yourself extremely lucky and LEARN from this

  • TaphouseTaphouse Registered User regular
    edited October 2012
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Welcome to the violent, psychotic drunk blackout. Some people are just predisposed towards that type of reaction. I've heard of studies indicating that there is a genetic component to it.

    How much you drink and importantly, how fast you drink will directly affect if you have a blackout or not. Personally I find smoking weed and drinking makes me much more inclined to having a blackout, but I can't speak to this on a factual basis.

    You need to be very, very careful with your drinking from now on. I can't stress how serious these violent blackouts can be. You are lucky you didn't wake up the next day in jail or in a hospital or whatever.

    I get these blackouts bad. Really bad. I quit drinking alcohol as a result.

    Also the whole "I forget things I should remember" thing - your brain stops forming memories when you are in this state. Its not that the memories are buried in your mind, waiting for you to remember. They were never created in the first place.

    Word. I knew someone who almost went to prison for many, many years for having a blackout like this. He woke up in jail with absolutely no memory. He was having behavior exactly like you described, no memory of it, except he had no one to help him. He might have been drugged but it doesn't matter because it's alcohol that's the catalyst for this situation happening. It was not the first time he'd lost his memory.

    To OP: treat this event as fate whispering in your ear. You don't want it to be too late to realize to change. Cannot stress this enough.

    Also, it seems like for people who react badly to alcohol, that the more they age the more it takes control. They simply can't go back, and it becomes a ticking time bomb. This is a pretty extreme way of looking at it but I've seen it utterly ruin lives of the drinker, and the lives of their families.

    Finally, this:
    Inx wrote: »
    Something I'd like to say is that even though you behaved like that when you were really, really impaired doesn't mean you're a bad person. Anyone who tells you different isn't your friend. It could just be that alcohol brings out certain things in you. If that's the case, it doesn't mean you've got a demon in you, it doesn't mean you're burying some kind of trauma, all it means is that maybe you shouldn't drink so much.

    If you hate the way you behave when you drink but you KEEP drinking, that's when you might need to consider seeking help. Until then, don't beat yourself up over it, and avoid people who beat you up over it.

    I once got really, really drunk, gave a guy I hated 200 dollars, and apparently called one of my best friends some pretty awful names. The next day I found the 200 bucks, with a note that said "stop drinking" from the guy I hated. When I called my friend and tried to apologize he laughed and asked if I wanted to grab lunch. Shit happens with booze gets involved.

    Very insightful and important. This isn't a reflection of who you are, just something shitty that needs to be brought under control.

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    Inx wrote: »
    Something I'd like to say is that even though you behaved like that when you were really, really impaired doesn't mean you're a bad person. Anyone who tells you different isn't your friend. It could just be that alcohol brings out certain things in you. If that's the case, it doesn't mean you've got a demon in you, it doesn't mean you're burying some kind of trauma, all it means is that maybe you shouldn't drink so much.

    If you hate the way you behave when you drink but you KEEP drinking, that's when you might need to consider seeking help. Until then, don't beat yourself up over it, and avoid people who beat you up over it.

    I once got really, really drunk, gave a guy I hated 200 dollars, and apparently called one of my best friends some pretty awful names. The next day I found the 200 bucks, with a note that said "stop drinking" from the guy I hated. When I called my friend and tried to apologize he laughed and asked if I wanted to grab lunch. Shit happens with booze gets involved.

    On the plus side, that guy you hated isn't totally hateful.

  • InxInx Registered User regular
    V1m wrote: »

    On the plus side, that guy you hated isn't totally hateful.

    Eh, I suspect he left the money because he thought I'd make a thing of it and he didn't want to deal with the potential drama. He took the time to write that note, which kinda chapped my ass.

    THAT SAID, I returned the favor by not murdering him when he drunkenly threw up all over my leather jacket on a separate occasion.

  • Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    Most likely not drugged but who really knows.

    My wife had a psychotic break one time in college when she got really drunk. I called 911 because she would go from normal to pass out to super weird to pass out in the span of minutes. At the time we suspected she had been drugged by the skeevy guy pouring her drinks, and the cops that picked her up and took her to the hospital also suspected drugs, but nothing came of it (don't know if they ran tests at the hospital as I wasn't allowed to see her). She remembered absolutely nothing the next day when I bailed her out of jail.

    Two years later she got pretty drunk again and it happened again. This time no drugs were involved for sure since it was just us and a few friends having a relatively low-key night.

    Both times she was physically violent to people around her. After the second time she decided to severely limit her alcohol intake to the point where I'm not sure she's been more than a little tipsy since. You may want to consider doing the same.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    You drank more than you should have and on top of that you were "pretty high". Yeah, you were drugged...by yourself.

  • cmsamocmsamo Registered User regular
    I dated a girl once who was the nicest sweetest girl, very kind, quiet, considerate, as long as she was sober. As soon as she had 3-4 shots of vodka or other hard liquor, and a few beers, she would become this crazy psychopath - she would do things like push people, try and start fights, and leave parties in cabs in a rage... only to get home, sober up some, and want to go back to the party. She could not handle any sort of drinking.

    My own personal experiences (speaking as a British guy who spent most of his 20s binge drinking with the rest of England) - I've drunk as much as 21 vodka redbull drinks and been totally fine. I've also been out and drunk 7 beers on an empty stomach, and been violently violently ill. I've found that vodka gets me drunk, but not belligerent. Tequila on the other hand, and whisky - I definitely stay away from these. The only time I acted up when drunk (and actually started a streetfight with a bunch of people) was when I did 10 shots of tequila. That taught me to stay away from that drink.

    I would take this episode as a sign that you are not meant to drink that much, and as others have said, each time you go out from now on, don't binge drink on shots. If you feel the need to drink that much vodka, drink it in a tall glass with a mixer.

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