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While I don't want to get into the Last Stand/Second Chance argument.
I will say I thought it was hilarious that they had to make shotguns ignore it because otherwise you would be pretty much dead because you killed someone.
I believe there's a saying that goes "Insanity is repeating the same process and expecting different results"
*I do 100 damage to someone who has 100 health, he dies.
*I do 100 damage to someone who has 100 health, he does not die. abracadabra
*I explode a dude for 200 damage, he dies.
*I explode a dude for 200 damage, he does not die. abracadabra
INSANITY.
*I put up a spy plane, I see a guy on my radar.
*I put up a spy plane, I don't see him on my radar. abracadabra
*A dude sprints up behind me, I hear him.
*A dude sprints up behind me, I don't hear him. abracadabra
*I put down a claymore, it kills a dude.
*I put down a claymore, a dude changes it so it kills me. abracadabra
*A dude jumps off a high thing to escape me, he dies.
*A dude jumps off a high thing to escape me, he does not die. abracadabra
*A dude runs out of bullets, I kill him while he reloads.
*A dude runs out of bullets, he reloads super-fast and kills me. abracadabra
*I shoot a dude, and he loses control of his aim and can't shoot me back.
*I shoot a dude, but his aim stays stable so he kills me. abracadabra.
*I throw Nova Gas at a dude, it disorients and kills him.
*I throw Nova Gas at a due, it does not disorient or kill him. abracadabra
*I throw down smoke, I am invisible.
*I throw down smoke, I am not invisible. abracadabra
*A guy shoots 20 bullets out of his PM63 at me. He is out of ammo.
*A guy shoots 20 bullets out of his PM63 at me. He is not out of ammo. abracadabra
*A guy shoots a gun. He appears on my radar.
*A guy shoots a gun. He does not appear on my radar. abracadabra
Your argument works against perks in general. Maybe you should stick to Quake?
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I believe there's a saying that goes "Insanity is repeating the same process and expecting different results"
*I do 100 damage to someone who has 100 health, he dies.
*I do 100 damage to someone who has 100 health, he does not die. abracadabra
*I explode a dude for 200 damage, he dies.
*I explode a dude for 200 damage, he does not die. abracadabra
INSANITY.
*I put up a spy plane, I see a guy on my radar.
*I put up a spy plane, I don't see him on my radar. abracadabra
*A dude sprints up behind me, I hear him.
*A dude sprints up behind me, I don't hear him. abracadabra
*I put down a claymore, it kills a dude.
*I put down a claymore, a dude changes it so it kills me. abracadabra
*A dude jumps off a high thing to escape me, he dies.
*A dude jumps off a high thing to escape me, he does not die. abracadabra
*A dude runs out of bullets, I kill him while he reloads.
*A dude runs out of bullets, he reloads super-fast and kills me. abracadabra
*I shoot a dude, and he loses control of his aim and can't shoot me back.
*I shoot a dude, but his aim stays stable so he kills me. abracadabra.
*I throw Nova Gas at a dude, it disorients and kills him.
*I throw Nova Gas at a due, it does not disorient or kill him. abracadabra
*I throw down smoke, I am invisible.
*I throw down smoke, I am not invisible. abracadabra
*A guy shoots 20 bullets out of his PM63 at me. He is out of ammo.
*A guy shoots 20 bullets out of his PM63 at me. He is not out of ammo. abracadabra
*A guy shoots a gun. He appears on my radar.
*A guy shoots a gun. He does not appear on my radar. abracadabra
Your argument works against perks in general. Maybe you should stick to Quake?
That's not the same thing at all because killing people is the name of the game and everybody has a certain amount of health and when I shoot with a gun and do that much damage I expect a bad guy to die. Because that is how the game works. When someone has a flak jacket I get a notification of it and that's why they don't die so I know to deal with it as it happens. With last stand I put a guy down and don't know about it until he's already dead. Those other things chance conditions of the game, but Last Stand changes how the game works and how killing people works not finding people.
While I haven't built my class I'm pretty sure I'll run what I usually run. A good smg and whatever the Steady Aim, SoH, and Lightweight equivalents are, as my play style is mostly run and gun.
Here's an early class builder for anyone into that sort of thing for Blops.
That's much nicer than the earlier one.
Edit: And Long Barrel is for Shotguns only! There goes my plan.
That's a great site. Too bad there isn't an image saving/sharing feature to show off your custom builds. Here was mine:
I really wanted Perk 2 Greed and Fast Hands for quicker grenade use but came up two points short. I could ditch the AA launcher and reduce one of my grenades I guess. I am running Scavenger after all, but read that you only get the blue bags via non-explosive kills. That means bashing in heads or relying on teammates. Tough challenge either way, but I'm up for it!
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While I haven't built my class I'm pretty sure I'll run what I usually run. A good smg and whatever the Steady Aim, SoH, and Lightweight equivalents are, as my play style is mostly run and gun.
Which Sleight of Hand? Faster reloads or faster aim time or both?
While I haven't built my class I'm pretty sure I'll run what I usually run. A good smg and whatever the Steady Aim, SoH, and Lightweight equivalents are, as my play style is mostly run and gun.
Which Sleight of Hand? Faster reloads or faster aim time or both?
Man, I'm not even worried about pre planning a class until I have the game infront of me... this new system is a little confusing.
I love planning out classes. I even planned out classes for MW2 and I never played it!
That said, I do need to get the feel for some of the guns before I make fully informed decisions. Suppressor and Quickdraw are givens for my try-hard class. But will my favorite rifle need a Foregrip or Fast Mags or Select Fire?
While I haven't built my class I'm pretty sure I'll run what I usually run. A good smg and whatever the Steady Aim, SoH, and Lightweight equivalents are, as my play style is mostly run and gun.
Which Sleight of Hand? Faster reloads or faster aim time or both?
While I haven't built my class I'm pretty sure I'll run what I usually run. A good smg and whatever the Steady Aim, SoH, and Lightweight equivalents are, as my play style is mostly run and gun.
Which Sleight of Hand? Faster reloads or faster aim time or both?
Here's an early class builder for anyone into that sort of thing for Blops.
That's much nicer than the earlier one.
Edit: And Long Barrel is for Shotguns only! There goes my plan.
That's a great site. Too bad there isn't an image saving/sharing feature to show off your custom builds. Here was mine:
I really wanted Perk 2 Greed and Fast Hands for quicker grenade use but came up two points short. I could ditch the AA launcher and reduce one of my grenades I guess. I am running Scavenger after all, but read that you only get the blue bags via non-explosive kills. That means bashing in heads or relying on teammates. Tough challenge either way, but I'm up for it!
Looks like a good start - I might even try it at some point because I love the shield.
Has there been any word yet on some kind of Blops2 equivalent for the Melee Shield Proficiency in MW3? Because getting 2 bashes in without it was almost always a pain. Dexterity seems to be that kind of thing, but I bet they just mean knife melee, the shield-hating jerks.
Here's an early class builder for anyone into that sort of thing for Blops.
That's much nicer than the earlier one.
Edit: And Long Barrel is for Shotguns only! There goes my plan.
That's a great site. Too bad there isn't an image saving/sharing feature to show off your custom builds. Here was mine:
I really wanted Perk 2 Greed and Fast Hands for quicker grenade use but came up two points short. I could ditch the AA launcher and reduce one of my grenades I guess. I am running Scavenger after all, but read that you only get the blue bags via non-explosive kills. That means bashing in heads or relying on teammates. Tough challenge either way, but I'm up for it!
Looks like a good start - I might even try it at some point because I love the shield.
Has there been any word yet on some kind of Blops2 equivalent for the Melee Shield Proficiency in MW3? Because getting 2 bashes in without it was almost always a pain. Dexterity seems to be that kind of thing, but I bet they just mean knife melee, the shield-hating jerks.
I hope there is some form of bonuses ala attachments for the Shield but I'm not holding my breath. I definitely want to roll with another Shield user so we can be Bash Bros. I don't think I've played with Willith yet, he's the shield legend around these parts. Hopefully I can rise up to his level one day. Then again, I have no idea if I'm good for the team or not, I'll let everyone else decide that.
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I hope there is some form of bonuses ala attachments for the Shield but I'm not holding my breath. I definitely want to roll with another Shield user so we can be Bash Bros. I don't think I've played with Willith yet, he's the shield legend around these parts. Hopefully I can rise up to his level one day. Then again, I have no idea if I'm good for the team or not, I'll let everyone else decide that.
Not gonna happen because I'm on the wrong system (aka PS3).
So long as I'm complaining, why does the shield take 2 hits to kill when the knife is only 1? (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
I believe there's a saying that goes "Insanity is repeating the same process and expecting different results"
*I do 100 damage to someone who has 100 health, he dies.
*I do 100 damage to someone who has 100 health, he does not die. abracadabra
*I explode a dude for 200 damage, he dies.
*I explode a dude for 200 damage, he does not die. abracadabra
INSANITY.
*I put up a spy plane, I see a guy on my radar.
*I put up a spy plane, I don't see him on my radar. abracadabra
*A dude sprints up behind me, I hear him.
*A dude sprints up behind me, I don't hear him. abracadabra
*I put down a claymore, it kills a dude.
*I put down a claymore, a dude changes it so it kills me. abracadabra
*A dude jumps off a high thing to escape me, he dies.
*A dude jumps off a high thing to escape me, he does not die. abracadabra
*A dude runs out of bullets, I kill him while he reloads.
*A dude runs out of bullets, he reloads super-fast and kills me. abracadabra
*I shoot a dude, and he loses control of his aim and can't shoot me back.
*I shoot a dude, but his aim stays stable so he kills me. abracadabra.
*I throw Nova Gas at a dude, it disorients and kills him.
*I throw Nova Gas at a due, it does not disorient or kill him. abracadabra
*I throw down smoke, I am invisible.
*I throw down smoke, I am not invisible. abracadabra
*A guy shoots 20 bullets out of his PM63 at me. He is out of ammo.
*A guy shoots 20 bullets out of his PM63 at me. He is not out of ammo. abracadabra
*A guy shoots a gun. He appears on my radar.
*A guy shoots a gun. He does not appear on my radar. abracadabra
Your argument works against perks in general. Maybe you should stick to Quake?
Seriously? We're done here. I can't tell if your ignorance is willful or woeful, but either way there's no amount of logic or reason that can combat the amount of bad and wrong that you are presenting to this thread.
That's not the same thing at all because killing people is the name of the game and everybody has a certain amount of health and when I shoot with a gun and do that much damage I expect a bad guy to die.
How are you still regularly surprised by Last Stand? It's five years old. I can see being shocked by it if all you've ever played are other games, but it really should be something you're expecting if you've played CoD for more than about four days.
Thing is I'm not a Last Stand fan, as I never use it. And I think deathstreaks in general are a bad idea. I just think most of the arguments against it make no sense ("I never expect it" is by far the weakest yet).
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That's not the same thing at all because killing people is the name of the game and everybody has a certain amount of health and when I shoot with a gun and do that much damage I expect a bad guy to die.
How are you still regularly surprised by Last Stand? Look, I was surprised when that dead body turned out to be a spy who got up and knifed me in the back. The first time. In 1999. It's not something I'm not expecting any more. If you're still not expecting anyone playing the last five CoD games to be using it, that's really not a problem with the game.
Dude, for real...
you're kind of just being a dick goose now...
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
That's not the same thing at all because killing people is the name of the game and everybody has a certain amount of health and when I shoot with a gun and do that much damage I expect a bad guy to die.
How are you still regularly surprised by Last Stand? It's five years old. I can see being shocked by it if all you've ever played are other games, but it really should be something you're expecting if you've played CoD for more than about four days.
Thing is I'm not a Last Stand fan, as I never use it. And I think deathstreaks in general are a bad idea. I just think most of the arguments against it make no sense ("I never expect it" is by far the weakest yet).
Because I'm a man and I use man type perks and deathstreaks that don't involve me sitting on my ass shooting people. And the complaint is that I shouldn't have to expect it because it's stupid and bullshit. I killed the dude and now I want to move on. I'm busy rushing a spawn site with a bunch of people in front of me I can't deal with that shit. And sometimes I have a pump action shotgun and that dude on the ground kills me before I can pump and aim low again.
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I'm moving to Mexico at the end of the month. It should take a few days to get up and running, assuming they even allow my American PS3 on PSN down there.
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There is a reason it was everyone's favorite gun in MW2. The UMP was terribly broken.
Nuh Uh
The guns that were broken in MW2 were:
[insert every weapon in MW2 here]
Also you know it wasn't everyones favorite gun, I prefered the P90 over it so me and Luigi could be P90 bros and frankly if I had to pick it would either be the F2000 or Javelin as my favorite.
I'm moving to Mexico at the end of the month. It should take a few days to get up and running, assuming they even allow my American PS3 on PSN down there.
Let us know how Juarez is.
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Yeah, pretty much.
I'm like every gun in MW2 was broke.
Well...except the F2000...that gun was fucking trash no matter how much people say to the contrary.
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I will say I thought it was hilarious that they had to make shotguns ignore it because otherwise you would be pretty much dead because you killed someone.
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wait....
*I put up a spy plane, I don't see him on my radar. abracadabra
*A dude sprints up behind me, I hear him.
*A dude sprints up behind me, I don't hear him. abracadabra
*I put down a claymore, it kills a dude.
*I put down a claymore, a dude changes it so it kills me. abracadabra
*A dude jumps off a high thing to escape me, he dies.
*A dude jumps off a high thing to escape me, he does not die. abracadabra
*A dude runs out of bullets, I kill him while he reloads.
*A dude runs out of bullets, he reloads super-fast and kills me. abracadabra
*I shoot a dude, and he loses control of his aim and can't shoot me back.
*I shoot a dude, but his aim stays stable so he kills me. abracadabra.
*I throw Nova Gas at a dude, it disorients and kills him.
*I throw Nova Gas at a due, it does not disorient or kill him. abracadabra
*I throw down smoke, I am invisible.
*I throw down smoke, I am not invisible. abracadabra
*A guy shoots 20 bullets out of his PM63 at me. He is out of ammo.
*A guy shoots 20 bullets out of his PM63 at me. He is not out of ammo. abracadabra
*A guy shoots a gun. He appears on my radar.
*A guy shoots a gun. He does not appear on my radar. abracadabra
Your argument works against perks in general. Maybe you should stick to Quake?
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Don't do it.
Stick with the 360 so you can play with the dudebros
That's much nicer than the earlier one.
Edit: And Long Barrel is for Shotguns only! There goes my plan.
That's not the same thing at all because killing people is the name of the game and everybody has a certain amount of health and when I shoot with a gun and do that much damage I expect a bad guy to die. Because that is how the game works. When someone has a flak jacket I get a notification of it and that's why they don't die so I know to deal with it as it happens. With last stand I put a guy down and don't know about it until he's already dead. Those other things chance conditions of the game, but Last Stand changes how the game works and how killing people works not finding people.
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That's a great site. Too bad there isn't an image saving/sharing feature to show off your custom builds. Here was mine:
I really wanted Perk 2 Greed and Fast Hands for quicker grenade use but came up two points short. I could ditch the AA launcher and reduce one of my grenades I guess. I am running Scavenger after all, but read that you only get the blue bags via non-explosive kills. That means bashing in heads or relying on teammates. Tough challenge either way, but I'm up for it!
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Which Sleight of Hand? Faster reloads or faster aim time or both?
Assuming both, sounds like:
SMG
-Laser Sight
-Fast Mags
-Quickdraw
Perk 1 - Lightweight
Wildcard - Primary Gunfighter
That leaves you 4 points for perks, equipment, or a secondary.
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I just hope they have a gun that feels as good as the MW2 UMP45, which is probably my favorite gun in the series.
I love planning out classes. I even planned out classes for MW2 and I never played it!
That said, I do need to get the feel for some of the guns before I make fully informed decisions. Suppressor and Quickdraw are givens for my try-hard class. But will my favorite rifle need a Foregrip or Fast Mags or Select Fire?
There is a reason it was everyone's favorite gun in MW2. The UMP was terribly broken.
Here's a Shotty class I came up with:
Looks like a good start - I might even try it at some point because I love the shield.
Has there been any word yet on some kind of Blops2 equivalent for the Melee Shield Proficiency in MW3? Because getting 2 bashes in without it was almost always a pain. Dexterity seems to be that kind of thing, but I bet they just mean knife melee, the shield-hating jerks.
Steady Aim is called Laser Sight, and it's an attachment.
Steady Aim is gone and been moved to attachments as Laser Sight. Red line gonna give you away from a distance though.
I hope there is some form of bonuses ala attachments for the Shield but I'm not holding my breath. I definitely want to roll with another Shield user so we can be Bash Bros. I don't think I've played with Willith yet, he's the shield legend around these parts. Hopefully I can rise up to his level one day. Then again, I have no idea if I'm good for the team or not, I'll let everyone else decide that.
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Not gonna happen because I'm on the wrong system (aka PS3).
So long as I'm complaining, why does the shield take 2 hits to kill when the knife is only 1? (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Ah. I'll get rid of the betty and fast hands then. change it to the three attachment wildcard and pick up laser sight.
I see myself spending as much time in BLOPS 2 create a class as I do in RPG character creator screens...
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Seriously? We're done here. I can't tell if your ignorance is willful or woeful, but either way there's no amount of logic or reason that can combat the amount of bad and wrong that you are presenting to this thread.
Goddammit I said I wasn't going to plan ahead.
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Since you chose a sem-auto shotgun, you might be able to just swap the Foregrip to the Laser Sight.
Hopefully they'll let you toggle it on and off like in Battlefield 3.
on smgs I want laser sight, rapid fire, ext mags, fast mags, suppressor...ugh.
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wait....
We're already half-way there: we have throwing axes.
Actually, you should just always be running scavenger.
Means I'm never running a secondary ever. So free points.
Thing is I'm not a Last Stand fan, as I never use it. And I think deathstreaks in general are a bad idea. I just think most of the arguments against it make no sense ("I never expect it" is by far the weakest yet).
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Dude, for real...
you're kind of just being a dick goose now...
Because I'm a man and I use man type perks and deathstreaks that don't involve me sitting on my ass shooting people. And the complaint is that I shouldn't have to expect it because it's stupid and bullshit. I killed the dude and now I want to move on. I'm busy rushing a spawn site with a bunch of people in front of me I can't deal with that shit. And sometimes I have a pump action shotgun and that dude on the ground kills me before I can pump and aim low again.
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Nuh Uh
The guns that were broken in MW2 were:
[insert every weapon in MW2 here]
Also you know it wasn't everyones favorite gun, I prefered the P90 over it so me and Luigi could be P90 bros and frankly if I had to pick it would either be the F2000 or Javelin as my favorite.
And by either be I mean its the Javelin.
Let us know how Juarez is.
I'm like every gun in MW2 was broke.
Well...except the F2000...that gun was fucking trash no matter how much people say to the contrary.
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