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March is The Official Schmuppreciation Month!

Strider-JStrider-J Registered User regular
edited March 2007 in Games and Technology
Courtesy of my favorite podcasts, Broadcast Gamer and Team Fremont Live.

Here's the Breakdown.

To celebrate I've cracked open my long dormant Dreamcast and fired up me some Cannon Spike. I'm also on the lookout for a cheap as hell copy of Armada.... I just don't wanna drop 20 bucks on it.

What're YOU... gonna shmuppreciate? ^___^

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Ikaruga because it's basically all I've got. But what a game to appreciate.

    Maybe in honor of the month I'll get a VC shmup.

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  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I dunno. I have dug out Psyvariar again recently, though. Still one of the finest games I've ever played.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Castle Shikigami 2. Always good to break out at random intervals.

    Alternatively, maybe some Rez or Gunbird 2... I haven't played either in a while.

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  • TuomaTuoma Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Hmm, i play these games on a regular basis, but for this special occasion i might try and 1cc Shikigami 2 with every character.

    This is the time for them to announce the third one in the series for the 360, come oooon! It is Schmuppreciation Month!

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  • Strider-JStrider-J Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Castle Shikigami 2 is the one they most talk about on the podcast..... can't say I've ever seen it in stores or any reviews anywhere....


    Another favorite that I've heard about, but can't play cuz I don't have a Wii is like... Soldier Blade or something.

    What I here are the greatest:
    Gradius V
    Ikaruga
    Einhander

    And all impossible to find... except Gradius.

    Psyvariar... can't say I've ever heard of it... I'll check it out on YouTube.

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  • SpokesSpokes Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Dodonpachi!

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Shikigami's my favorite out of Ikaruga and Einhander, but they're both pretty unique. Einhander's 2d, but lots of destruction, and Ikaruga is hardcore incarnate.

    Shikigami has great music, insane difficulty(but not impossible like Ikaruga-style, just bullet hell), and interesting characters.

    Just whatever you do, when you find it, don't mind the voice acting. Take it with a grain of salt. It's even better mocked.
    (I'm still bitter that my favorite character, Fumiko, has the worst actress in the history of time doing her voice.)
    Crooked. CASTLE?

    CS2 should be real easy to find. $9.99 used. It was a budget release, but I don't think it's rare.

    I still haven't played Gradius V. The series kind of terrifies me. Gradius I is still insane to this day.

    V would probably have me breaking something.

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    It's not hardcore or anything, but Sigma Star Saga. It was an interesting mix of RPG and shooter. It definitely could have used some difficulty levels, but the customization available thanks to all the gun data and the differing experience on each level from piloting a random ship.

    Great GBA game that got me through a lot of time on the bus on my way back and forth to work.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Sigma Star would've left a better taste in my mouth if I'd gotten a better ending. I really don't look forward to going through all of that again.

    It was definitely unique though.

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  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Time to bust out the SNES/NES.

    SNES: U.N. Squadron

    NES: Xevious


    ..yeah, I hate myself.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    This thread needs more Imperishable Night

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  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Strider-J wrote: »

    Psyvariar... can't say I've ever heard of it... I'll check it out on YouTube.

    Area 6 boss on Psvariar 2: Ultimate Final.

    If you don't want to play the game after seeing that, then get out. :P

    One of the greatest final boss themes ever, too.

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    Read my book. (It has a robot in it.)
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I thought I'd like Imperishable Night a lot(I enjoy the music), but for some reason, the demo just seemed... unpolished.

    Hmm... Psyvariar looks like Raystorm/crisis/etc. kind of.

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  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    I thought I'd like Imperishable Night a lot(I enjoy the music), but for some reason, the demo just seemed... unpolished.

    Hmm... Psyvariar looks like Raystorm/crisis/etc. kind of.

    It does have a similar look to the mecha, ships, whatever, yes. Plays very differently, though. Like Shikigami only much, much better; Saurian gives a pretty good explanation of the system in the comments to that video of his.

    Eight Rooks on
    <AtlusParker> Sorry I'm playing Pokemon and vomiting at the same time so I'm not following the conversation in a linear fashion.

    Read my book. (It has a robot in it.)
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    I thought I'd like Imperishable Night a lot(I enjoy the music), but for some reason, the demo just seemed... unpolished.

    Hmm... Psyvariar looks like Raystorm/crisis/etc. kind of.

    It does have a similar look to the mecha, ships, whatever, yes. Plays very differently, though. Like Shikigami only much, much better; Saurian gives a pretty good explanation of the system in the comments to that video of his.

    Import-only, I'm guessing? I've never heard of it before now.

    It reminds me that I should track down a copy of Raysomething eventually.

    Looks like a fun system, if nasty. I love ones that let you use the enemy's shots against them. (One character in Shikigami has the ability, but she's hard to use.)

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  • Strider-JStrider-J Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Strider-J wrote: »

    Psyvariar... can't say I've ever heard of it... I'll check it out on YouTube.

    Area 6 boss on Psvariar 2: Ultimate Final.

    If you don't want to play the game after seeing that, then get out. :P

    One of the greatest final boss themes ever, too.

    SOLD! O___O

    This something I can just snag at the game store or am I gonna have to pay a fortune on Ebay? Thanks!

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  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    I thought I'd like Imperishable Night a lot(I enjoy the music), but for some reason, the demo just seemed... unpolished.

    Hmm... Psyvariar looks like Raystorm/crisis/etc. kind of.

    It does have a similar look to the mecha, ships, whatever, yes. Plays very differently, though. Like Shikigami only much, much better; Saurian gives a pretty good explanation of the system in the comments to that video of his.

    Import-only, I'm guessing? I've never heard of it before now.

    It reminds me that I should track down a copy of Raysomething eventually.

    The first game made it, I think - certainly to PAL land. I picked up an UK copy for silly money. The second, sadly not - there are three versions in Japan, original DC (The Will To Fabricate), XBox (Extended Edition) and PS2 (Ultimate Final). DC is utterly barebones but looks the nicest, PS2 has some questionable visual tweaks but has a few nice extras, XBox apparently isn't really worth bothering with.

    And yes, they do go for fairly high prices on eBay, though not all the way high.

    EDIT: The first game looks pretty dated now and the buzz system isn't as slick, but it's still a tremendous amount of fun. Definitely worth it if you can find it for next to nothing and want to see whether you'll like the gameplay mechanics.

    Eight Rooks on
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    Read my book. (It has a robot in it.)
  • Strider-JStrider-J Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Looks like something I'd be proud to have in my collection but the version I'd be able to play costs waaaaay more than I'd be willing to drop.

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  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah, I really, really wish I hadn't got rid of most of my DC imports. :(

    Eight Rooks on
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    Read my book. (It has a robot in it.)
  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    GIGA-WING

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    I thought I'd like Imperishable Night a lot(I enjoy the music), but for some reason, the demo just seemed... unpolished.

    That's because the Touhou series is made by one crazy guy in his basement. I.N.'s predecessor, Touhou 7: Perfect Cherry Blossom, is just plain shooting with none of the character switching system, and is just a pinch better than Imperishable Night.

    There are some decent comics out there too.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Xenon 2 and Battle Squadron will always be some of my faves.

    I was a big fan of Zephyr and Uridium as well.

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    psyvariar was ok but it always seemed way to floaty and random to me

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I just bought Gunstar Heroes on the VC yesterday. I'm liking it.

    Also, any appreciation for Raptor around here? God, I played that game so much on my old 486 as a kid.

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  • SteevSteev What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I love my shooters, but goddamn do I suck at them.

    I think that Gradius V was the last one I bought (excluding VC titles). The furthest I've gotten is level 3, and that was only once. That second level boss takes so much out of me, but it's a pretty damn cool fight too.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Strider-J wrote: »

    Psyvariar... can't say I've ever heard of it... I'll check it out on YouTube.

    Area 6 boss on Psvariar 2: Ultimate Final.

    If you don't want to play the game after seeing that, then get out. :P

    One of the greatest final boss themes ever, too.

    I don't even understand what's going on in this video. The player seems to be touching a lot of the boss's attacks, without ever dying.

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  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Fireflash wrote: »
    Strider-J wrote: »

    Psyvariar... can't say I've ever heard of it... I'll check it out on YouTube.

    Area 6 boss on Psvariar 2: Ultimate Final.

    If you don't want to play the game after seeing that, then get out. :P

    One of the greatest final boss themes ever, too.

    I don't even understand what's going on in this video. The player seems to be touching a lot of the boss's attacks, without ever dying.

    Didn't read the comments? :P
    Saur wrote:
    Each time you fill the guage at the top of the screen by skimming shots you get a brief moment of invincibility. The key is to manipulate the guage through your movement - timing where and when you get the pulse and then diving in to keep that shield going.

    Keep buzzing shots and you fill the gauge - fill it all the way up and you're invincible for a few seconds. Thing is, you can still buzz enemy fire while you're invincible, pushing the gauge up yet again and chaining the period of invincibility, if you like - the challenge is to divine the best path through and in most cases directly into enemy fire in order to keep the gauge filling over and over and staying invincible for as long as possible. The sheer adrenaline rush of charging straight into the bosses' bullet hell attacks and hanging on to invulnerability for that vital one more second is a feeling few if any other videogames have ever given me.

    Eight Rooks on
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    Read my book. (It has a robot in it.)
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    What I couldn't figure out is how you know when the invincibility's about to run out.

    Also, I didn't see a life meter for the boss. That would drive me crazy. I like to know that I'm at least close to finishing the thing.

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  • MarvellousMMarvellousM United StatesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Looks like I should dig out that copy of Thunder Force V for the Saturn I spent too much money on and barely played. Gonna play me some R-Type too, I've been holding off on buying 3 on the VC in case something else cool comes out but I've been waiting three weeks and I don't think its happening.

    Another great DC shooter is Zero Gunner 2, every boss starts off as a vehicle or something and then turns into a robot! Being able to rotate your chopper to shoot in other directions is a cool feature also.

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  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    What I couldn't figure out is how you know when the invincibility's about to run out.

    Also, I didn't see a life meter for the boss. That would drive me crazy. I like to know that I'm at least close to finishing the thing.

    The invincibility gauge is the halo around him.

    And health bar, I, um. Don't know. I'm not good enough to unlock the "proper" bosses - I never got to Gluon in the time I owned the DC version. :( The other bosses all have them, I think.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Ah, Shmups are awesome. I just started getting back into them with Gradius V, now I can't get enough of them.


    some good news for PS2 owners is that Raiden III is coming out next month, $30 new!

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    I also just read that Raiden IV is coming to the Xbox360! No idea if it'll be a retail release or XBLA title.







    Anyway, shmups are great. My favorite is Gradius V, but Castle Shikigami 2 is a close second.

    My other favorite shmups include:


    Legendary Wings (Arcade/NES/Capcom Classics), a classic shmup in which you can shoot as well as bomb the ground (Xevious style), but you can also get sucked under ground for a 2d horizontal platformer/shooting style level:

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    Speaking of Capcom shmups, another great and really interesting game is Forgotten Worlds:

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    It's like a cross between Contra III and Gradius gameplay. It's sidescrolling, flying shmup action, except you can aim/shoot in any direction. Plays great on the Capcom Classics collection, since you can fly with the left analog stick and aim with the right. I believe this game was released on the Genesis.



    Another classic Shmup series by Capcom is the 1943 series. It's an upgrade from 1942, which was rather basic. The series was released in arcades and had NES ports. Some people prefer the NES ports, which had some gameplay alterations, but the arcades truly are classics:

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    One of my favorite NES shmups, Gradius (I only have the NES vsn). This is one of the few games I can beat using 1 life (not just 1 cc, one life):

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    Life Force, and awesome, but tough fucking classic NES shmup. It's another gradius game, basically. Tough as nails, and amazing considering how much stuff they were able to do with this game on the NES. A lot of Life Force stuff went into Gradius V:

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    One of the best Gradius games, though, is actually Gradius Galaxies for the GBA. It's extremely refined and polished Gradius gameplay, and portable at that:

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    Speaking of portable shmups, some other good ones include the Shinen games:


    Iridion 3D was total crap, but once Shinen made the games more traditional, they became great fun, with Iridion II:

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    Good shmup, if not exactly as amazing as Gradius Galaxies. Then there's the 'sequel,' Nanostray:

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    Very underrated game if you ask me. Great style, and the gameplay mechanics were interesting and addicting. You started out with super attacks, and you refilled you meter by destroying chains of enemies (doing so also increased your score). You had all kinds of these alternate attacks for various situations. However, the game is short, and not too difficult except on the harder settings. But the replay value comes in at how well you can complete the Mission Mode objectives, which are really addicting if you can get into them. They really test your shmup skills, at that.




    Another great shmup that I'm just now starting to get into is another PS2 classic, RType Final:

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    I hadn't really been into the Rtype series, as I much preferred what felt like the less-memorization-based Gradius. Rtype is still great though, but I feel as though it focuses more on memorization than Gradius.



    There are a lot more shmups I could go into, but I've hit on a few that I really enjoy. I'm just now getting into RType, so I'm going to probably give Rtype on the VC a shot after finishing RType Final.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Fireflash wrote: »
    Strider-J wrote: »

    Psyvariar... can't say I've ever heard of it... I'll check it out on YouTube.

    Area 6 boss on Psvariar 2: Ultimate Final.

    If you don't want to play the game after seeing that, then get out. :P

    One of the greatest final boss themes ever, too.

    I don't even understand what's going on in this video. The player seems to be touching a lot of the boss's attacks, without ever dying.

    Didn't read the comments? :P
    Saur wrote:
    Each time you fill the guage at the top of the screen by skimming shots you get a brief moment of invincibility. The key is to manipulate the guage through your movement - timing where and when you get the pulse and then diving in to keep that shield going.

    Keep buzzing shots and you fill the gauge - fill it all the way up and you're invincible for a few seconds. Thing is, you can still buzz enemy fire while you're invincible, pushing the gauge up yet again and chaining the period of invincibility, if you like - the challenge is to divine the best path through and in most cases directly into enemy fire in order to keep the gauge filling over and over and staying invincible for as long as possible. The sheer adrenaline rush of charging straight into the bosses' bullet hell attacks and hanging on to invulnerability for that vital one more second is a feeling few if any other videogames have ever given me.

    Ha, I don,t often read youtube comments, they are usually filled with retardation of the greatest magnitude. That does seem like extremely crazy gameplay.

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  • george-xgeorge-x New YorkRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Great post, Slash. I like a lot of those games. I remember the 0day rush to get Nanostray cause it was nearly impoosible to find right off the bat. Great game.

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  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I have Layer Section, Dodonpachi, Radiant Silvergun and a modded Saturn hooked up to a big-screen TV.

    I want for nothing else in this world.

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  • george-xgeorge-x New YorkRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I have Layer Section, Dodonpachi, Radiant Silvergun and a modded Saturn hooked up to a big-screen TV.

    I want for nothing else in this world.

    Except for good Saturn video cables ;-)

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Tyrian (2000). My love for that game knows no bounds. <3

    Glal on
  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Everyone should go download warning forever.

    Karl on
  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    WHY THE HELL IS THERE A C

    HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE

    THINK: DOES SHOOT HAVE A C IN IT?

    Pheezer on
    IT'S GOT ME REACHING IN MY POCKET IT'S GOT ME FORKING OVER CASH
    CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
  • Strider-JStrider-J Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    pheezer FD wrote: »
    WHY THE HELL IS THERE A C

    HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE

    THINK: DOES SHOOT HAVE A C IN IT?

    Schure, why not. ;)

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  • StriferStrifer Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I'd like to try my hand at some of those PS2 shmups. Alas, there is no way to get one in a shop (I like my games new, it's something of requirement). Any word on getting Raiden 3 PAL?

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