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Arab Spring 2: Arab Spring-ier
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The Arab Spring is a revolutionary wave of demonstrations, protests, and wars occurring in the Arab world that began on 18 December 2010.
To date, rulers have been forced from power in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, and Yemen; civil uprisings have erupted in Bahrain and Syria; major protests have broken out in Algeria, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Morocco, and Sudan; and minor protests have occurred in Lebanon, Mauritania, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Djibouti, and Western Sahara. The major oil rich nations (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait and Oman) have been able to keep their ruling families in power.
So Egypt, the poster child of the Arab Spring, is currently in the middle of kicking out the democratically elected replacement for their previous leader, because he recently made a declaration that "Actually, being a dictator would be pretty awesome. I'm going to do that instead."
President Morsi will soon issue a decision for the participation of the armed forces in the duties of maintaining security and protection of vital state institutions until the constitution is approved and legislative elections are finished,” Al Ahram reported, suggesting that martial law would last until at least February.
While protests have been running wild, things may quiet down if he decides to seriously combat the protesters, since even though Mubarak employed some strong arm tactics in 2010, he never actually ordered martial law. This was in part because the standing army was actually more loyal to the citizens than to Mubarak, although not necessarily true of the police force. Things could be different with a new head of state.
I'm completely ignorant of the intricacies of all of this crazy stuff, so I am making this thread so people will educate me!
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As it is, I make a point of not offering uncensored internet opinions of any kind, but especially not of the drunk kind. So you will have to wait, thread. Until tomorrow.
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I don't wanna wait.
Gimme all those sweet, sweet uncensored drunken opinions.
When you start saying stuff like "I give myself all powers in order to protect the revolution"
you've left democracy station and are headed straight to king-ville.
Unless he can get away with it.
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a lot of Egyptians are like whatever just give me my freedom
there isn't room for both in the sandbox
About the military? I mean, they pretty much had to be forced to allow democratic elections after mubarak was displaced, it took a while.
But do you mean about this current thing? Like, basis to the fears of Morsi? Because, he's already done it. He made a declaration giving him supreme powers and made opposing his leadership a crime.
It's under the auspices of being about the creation of a new constitution.
my understanding is he's suspended judicial review, basically, citing holdover judges from the mubarak era
as to whether or not he's seriously just trying to purge old elements or just consolidating his power i dunno
I mean, I don't know what you mean by less extreme when that statement literally gives him all government authority for an indefinite period of time, until a document that he has control over is written.
For example he is about to put Egypt in a state of martial law to end the protests.
the declaration does do that.
oh sorry, not the declaration, but the constitution that the Muslim Brotherhood is now writing alone with Morsi does this.
Yeah, this. I'm not sure what he expected to happen. People have just shown everyone they're not cool with dictators. So recently after successfully overthrowing one, thus knowing that they have that power, it seems like the least likely moment they'd accept a powergrab like this.
but who fucking knows
When dudes in power do things like this, it's probably wise to not be too optimistic about their intentions.
yeaah
:c
I'd heard he'd gotten about 49% of the votes cast. While sizable at nearly half the population, I'm pretty sure the slightly over half that didn't vote for him might be a little bothered by it.
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Since I don't believe "also I'll be the new dictator now" was part of his campaign, there might also be a lot of people who did vote for him bothered by it.
NO SPRINGS!
Very true- I'd be very interested to see if there were any polls on how the election would go if they had to re-do it, but with the state of the country I doubt any information like that could be trusted one way or the other.