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Keeping secrets from your significant others concerning their family

OldSlackerOldSlacker Registered User regular
Last spring my wife's parents told me that her mom just got back home after spending a week in hospital because she had a minor stroke. They asked me to keep it to myself and not upset her because they intended to tell her themselves once we get back home. I did as they asked of me and when she found about it after we visited them 2 months later she got very angry with me for what she calls "lying to her" because she believes that I should tell her everything concerning her parents. Because we are having arguments about it to this day I need to ask: Did I do the right thing and if something like that happens again should I do otherwise?

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    That is a really tough spot to be in and it was kind of lousy of them to put you there. But what are you supposed to do? Not respect their wishes?

    I guess if it comes up again you can ask that they not tell you anything they don't want her to know, but... I don't know. I've been in a similar position (sort of) and it sucks. I kept it to myself, but then there was no one else to blab that they'd already told me.

    If it helps you any, I don't think you were wrong to respect that they asked you not to say anything, but then I'm not your wife and can't make your life miserable, so I'm not sure it does.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    They shouldn't have put you in the position to start with, because, yeah, you kinda had to lie to her, and I can understand her feeling betrayed by that.

    Were you wrong in respecting their request? No, it was a reasonable request made for a reasonable reason. Would you have been wrong to tell her? No, it was something important to her and after the fact, you're the one who's got to go home with her, the rest of the family doesn't. Either way is justifiable, but either way, you're still the bad guy - if you told her she'd be happy, but now you've betrayed the trust of her family.

    If they insist on putting you in the position again, I'd tell them, "You know I can't keep this from her." And whatever their counter ("We're family," "We're friends," "We trust you," etc) my retort is, "And she's my WIFE." Her trust, her relationship, her status as family can trump theirs. Even if it's for no better reason than the fact that she's the one who can really make your miserable if you piss her off.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    "Did I do the right thing?"
    I'd say that even if you didn't do the right thing, it was a tough enough situation that you shouldn't really be blamed too harshly. Assuming your wife's parents were pretty serious about keeping it a secret and really wanted you to promise to keep it a secret, it's definitely bad to go against their wishes, but of course it's also bad to keep something from your wife that she would really like to know. I wouldn't stay up at night worrying about it. Of course, your wife is angry at you about this, but I think the best route here is to acknowledge that you did something wrong by her (maybe not wrong overall, but that's sort of irrelevant), apologize, and tell her that in the future...

    "If something like it happens again should I do otherwise?"
    ...yeah, as ceres and Hevach have said, if someone ever tries to put you into a position where you basically can't do the right thing, your best bet is telling them that you can't do that. In this case, you would tell your wife's parents "I'm sorry, I can't keep this from my wife, I don't want to deceive her." They'd be mad but that's their fault for not realizing that you don't want to deceive your wife. And you can tell your wife that this is what you'll do in the future with respect to information she would want to have. If anyone ever tells you something that you ought to tell your wife, you can just go ahead and tell her. Make that your policy and hopefully your wife will understand that you messed up this time and that in the future you won't make any mistakes.

    Here's the way I see it: when someone asks you to keep something secret from your wife/parents/children/whatever, but the secret is something that you feel like you ought to tell your wife/whatever about, then it's the fault of the person asking you to keep a secret. It's not OK to go around loading burdens onto people without knowing whether they're OK with keeping these sorts of secrets.

    TychoCelchuuu on
  • LewieP's MummyLewieP's Mummy Registered User regular
    My husband's sister told me that their dad was dying and asked me not to tell my husband until I was about to go back to university (he was 21, I was 20, his sister 35, and his mum was also dying). I told him as soon as I could, as I wanted to be with him to support him while he dealt with finding it out. I was angry with his sister for putting me in that position, but felt unable to tell her that then.
    She also decided we weren't to tell their dad that he was dying, something I regretted agreeing to, as he came to realise he was, and wasn't able to talk about it with anyone. He left a folder for my husband filled with allsorts of important stuff in it, that knowing him, he would have been happier talking through.

    Having gone through that experience, we made a rule that we tell everyone anything important as soon as we can, so that they know, but do it face to face, so that we can support them.

    Every family is different, though, you just need to decide who you need to be most loyal to. Whilst I understand your wanting to respect your in-laws' request, if my husband kept something like that from me I'd be pretty angry about it, with him and my mum.

    They shouldn't have put you on the spot like that, it was very unfair of them.

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  • OldSlackerOldSlacker Registered User regular
    Thanks for all the advice, everyone. I think in the future I'll go with telling them that if they decide to tell me something like that they should expect me to pass it along to my wife as well. :)

    @LewieP's Mummy: Really sorry to hear that, how can you even decide not to tell someone that they're dying?

  • DivideByZeroDivideByZero Social Justice Blackguard Registered User regular
    You should probably make it known to them now that you won't be keeping their secrets, because if you wait till they've already blabbed another one to you, you're in the position of pissing them off instead of your wife. Better that they know ahead of time not to bring you into it.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    I don't know why people do this. It's too late now, but if you're ever in this situation again I would straight up tell them something like "I understand you don't want to upset your daughter, but you're putting me in the uncomfortable position of having to lie to my wife. Please don't put me in this position in the future." It's a bit confrontational, but putting you in that position is a dick thing to do in the first place.

    You may want to communicate that to them right now, so it doesn't happen again.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    As others have already said, you made the wrong decision in not telling your wife. Incidentally, telling your wife was also the wrong decision.

    All the same, it's probably best to apologize for fucking up (even though her family put you in a situation with a no win condition)

  • LewieP's MummyLewieP's Mummy Registered User regular
    @LewieP's Mummy: Really sorry to hear that, how can you even decide not to tell someone that they're dying?

    I know, it was absolutely dreadful - husband's sister was/is very domineering, took me having our daughter to start to stand up to her. We have to be firm sometimes now. This was a long time ago, when death wasn't really discussed, very different now though, at least in my family - when I found out my second dad was dying, we talked about everything, including him planning his funeral, so it all happened how he had planned it.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    It is amazing to be able to sit down after someone dies and be at the funeral and say "it sucks that he's gone but if he had to we know that this is exactly what he wanted."

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • JuliusJulius Captain of Serenity on my shipRegistered User regular
    Last spring my wife's parents told me that her mom just got back home after spending a week in hospital because she had a minor stroke. They asked me to keep it to myself and not upset her because they intended to tell her themselves once we get back home. I did as they asked of me and when she found about it after we visited them 2 months later she got very angry with me for what she calls "lying to her" because she believes that I should tell her everything concerning her parents. Because we are having arguments about it to this day I need to ask: Did I do the right thing and if something like that happens again should I do otherwise?

    Go with a time-limit if you're asked to keep a secret. She is your partner and holding secrets is something you can only do for a little while. 2 months is far too much, discretion on family matters requires adults and if your wife's family can't be adult enough to inform her in their own time (a few days is okay, more than a week not) then you have the responsibility to inform her. You're married to her, you know when she should know about happening in her family over whatever her family tells you. (any of my previous girlfriends would've found the very idea of this kinda fucked up btw, not so much your actions as the fucking family not straight up telling your wife.)

    Next time simply say that your wife is an adult and can say what she wants to happen in such a situation. Apologise to her and straight up say that the thing you want to know is how to handle these kind of situations. Forget her family's wishes, what does she want? Any discretion about such things should be about you knowing your wife (e.g. if you know she can't handle things at times), not about whatever the fuck her family wants.

  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Past is past and I still don't think you were wrong simply because there was no way to be right, but now that you know that your wife feels this strongly and also that her family is going to be a jerk and keep these things under their hat for months and expect you to as well, you should absolutely not agree to any such thing in the future. Perhaps if you can give your wife the assurance that you were trying to respect her parents, that you didn't know she would take it so hard, and that knowing that you won't do any such thing again, she'll calm down about it.

    That said, there is only so long you can reasonably hold something over your partner's head. If it gets to be too long and too much and you start to feel like you've paid for it enough, it's okay to tell her that too.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    In your shoes, I would have told my wife's parents that I respect their wishes, but won't keep a secret from her. I probably would have given them a reasonable opportunity to tell her themselves though if they wanted. I think two months is too long, unless your wife is in the navy and at sea or something and even that's pushing it.

    My worry would be that if there were more complications during those two months, my wife wouldn't have the option to do anything because I didn't give her a choice. She would see that as a betrayal of trust, and close me out emotionally to cope with the complications / death alone in addition to coping with the betrayal of trust. It's not even about getting 'blamed', it's about her being hurt worse and having to deal with a really shitty situation alone.

    I'm especially cognizant about this though. When her (estranged) father died of cancer, her grandmother didn't tell her, and she only found out months later by chance. If she would have seen him while he was sick, or if she would have gone to the funeral doesn't matter, because she never got to make that choice.

  • OldSlackerOldSlacker Registered User regular
    Their reasoning was that they didn't want to burden her with it and to prevent her from doing something rash, like getting on a plane and flying back to Europe from the US where she is in a graduate program. Anyway, I told them that from now on I'm telling her everything so they might as well keep me out of the loop if they want to keep something a secret.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Yup that's the correct response.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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