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ManoSteel Trailer[Comic Book Movies]

nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
edited December 2012 in Social Entropy++
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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    That's an S alright.

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    AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    cool jpg

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Grr one sec

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    It's not loading for me

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    jpgs are the new standard for movie trailers. In the future there will be no moving pictures, just...STILL IMAGES.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Fixed

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    if i were a betting man, I'd say superman defeats the bad guy in this one

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    if i were a betting man, I'd say superman defeats the bad guy in this one

    $500 says kryptonite is involved somehow.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    a darker grittier superman where superman must overcome his moonlight addiction to cow tipping

    (its at night therefore he is weaker and tipping the cows is a good way to feel mortal)

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    MarthMarth Registered User regular
    Genuinely surprised there was only one BWAH, at the end. There was "chorus over dramatic scenes" though.

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    B_RB_R Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    + a lot of slowmotion

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Well,
    Jonathan Kent being turned into a cynical jerk sure ticks me off

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Man what

    Centi why are you spoilering a thing that is in the trailer this thread is about

    also judging from other lines from other trailers, he ain't. He's just worried about Clark.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    I see cynical but not really jerk

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Man what

    Centi why are you spoilering a thing that is in the trailer this thread is about

    also judging from other lines from other trailers, he ain't. He's just worried about Clark.

    I dunno!

    but he literally tells Clark that maybe he should have let a bus full of his friends die

    I mean, I get telling him to keep his identity secret

    but that one line is like whoa dude, what the heck

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    is this gonna be tied to that other superman movie that came out in the last few years or is it a reboot of the reboot

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I think it is less YEAH MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE

    and more "Maybe? Fuck I have no idea this whole thing is terrible."

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited December 2012
    I hope young clark doesn't take up as much of the movie as it did the trailer, although I guess it wants to make sure people completely separate it from the last superman movie in their minds

    but if the next batman movie spends half the film explaining how and why bruce wayne became batman I am going to be so sad, retelling the origin story with every reboot is awful

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    QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Man what

    Centi why are you spoilering a thing that is in the trailer this thread is about

    also judging from other lines from other trailers, he ain't. He's just worried about Clark.

    I dunno!

    but he literally tells Clark that maybe he should have let a bus full of his friends die

    I mean, I get telling him to keep his identity secret

    but that one line is like whoa dude, what the heck

    It shows nuanced morality if you think about it

    He knew Clark would have survived regardless, so he's looking out for his kid first

    We don't know how he replies to Clark, maybe he relents... It could be a great scene to establish the conflicting needs of secrecy vs helping

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    certain ideals, and the characters that represent them, become old, tired and irrelevant after a fashion

    the superman that was raised by an all-caring pa kent might no longer fit current societal expectations

    you gotta update an origin story, and every aspect related to it, in order for a character to stay relevant

    otherwise you might as well be complaining he's no longer wearing the red underwear on the outside anymore

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    is this gonna be tied to that other superman movie that came out in the last few years or is it a reboot of the reboot

    it's a reboot of the semi-boot, yeah

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Quoth wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Man what

    Centi why are you spoilering a thing that is in the trailer this thread is about

    also judging from other lines from other trailers, he ain't. He's just worried about Clark.

    I dunno!

    but he literally tells Clark that maybe he should have let a bus full of his friends die

    I mean, I get telling him to keep his identity secret

    but that one line is like whoa dude, what the heck

    It shows nuanced morality if you think about it

    He knew Clark would have survived regardless, so he's looking out for his kid first

    We don't know how he replies to Clark, maybe he relents... It could be a great scene to establish the conflicting needs of secrecy vs helping

    In the trailer Clark says "Should I have let them die?" and Paw says "Maybe"

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah I think there is a difference between Pa saying Maybe and Pa saying yes

    Maybe means the dude is conflicted and wants to help his son as best he can but knows he shouldn't value Clark more than others' lives

    Yes means the dude is a dick

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    is this gonna be tied to that other superman movie that came out in the last few years or is it a reboot of the reboot

    it's a reboot of the semi-boot, yeah
    Returns wasn't really a reboot

    It was still the Donner movieverse, just with different actors

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Well it looks gorgeous

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    a father might become conflicted between caring about his son's life and the ostracization of his own family and between caring about other people's children

    shocking

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah it is a super pretty trailer

    the shots of him walking in the arctic and then taking off were beautiful

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    certain ideals, and the characters that represent them, become old, tired and irrelevant after a fashion

    the superman that was raised by an all-caring pa kent might no longer fit current societal expectations

    you gotta update an origin story, and every aspect related to it, in order for a character to stay relevant

    otherwise you might as well be complaining he's no longer wearing the red underwear on the outside anymore

    Superman hasn't endured for some 80 odd years because people are bored of him

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    QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    I have said this like four times now but I think the colors are too muted

    Needs just slightly more saturation

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    certain ideals, and the characters that represent them, become old, tired and irrelevant after a fashion

    the superman that was raised by an all-caring pa kent might no longer fit current societal expectations

    you gotta update an origin story, and every aspect related to it, in order for a character to stay relevant

    otherwise you might as well be complaining he's no longer wearing the red underwear on the outside anymore

    Superman hasn't endured for some 80 odd years because people are bored of him

    originally ma and pa kent were both dead when superman came to metropolis

    things

    get

    updated

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    certain ideals, and the characters that represent them, become old, tired and irrelevant after a fashion

    the superman that was raised by an all-caring pa kent might no longer fit current societal expectations

    you gotta update an origin story, and every aspect related to it, in order for a character to stay relevant

    otherwise you might as well be complaining he's no longer wearing the red underwear on the outside anymore

    yeah but one of the major elements (in my view) of the character is that he was raised by good, kind, caring, salt-of-the-earth people to be that kind of person

    if he raised by a guy who doesn't know whether it's better to save yourself or a whole busload of other people, he's not going to have that strength of conviction that Superman should have

    Superman is a guy who jumps in and helps without thinking about himself

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    certain ideals, and the characters that represent them, become old, tired and irrelevant after a fashion

    the superman that was raised by an all-caring pa kent might no longer fit current societal expectations

    you gotta update an origin story, and every aspect related to it, in order for a character to stay relevant

    otherwise you might as well be complaining he's no longer wearing the red underwear on the outside anymore

    You know people do that all the time here, right?

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Well it looks gorgeous

    Could use some more color though

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    certain ideals, and the characters that represent them, become old, tired and irrelevant after a fashion

    the superman that was raised by an all-caring pa kent might no longer fit current societal expectations

    you gotta update an origin story, and every aspect related to it, in order for a character to stay relevant

    otherwise you might as well be complaining he's no longer wearing the red underwear on the outside anymore

    If they actually use retelling the pre-superman parts to impact the story in some way then it is fine I guess

    but if the most important bit from the whole childhood portion is that line in the trailer about "Pa said the world wouldnt be ready and would reject me but what do you think" then that is something you could do in mini-scenes during the opening credits

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    is this gonna be tied to that other superman movie that came out in the last few years or is it a reboot of the reboot

    it's a reboot of the semi-boot, yeah
    Returns wasn't really a reboot

    It was still the Donner movieverse, just with different actors

    well yeah, but I call it a semi-boot because it was supposed to have happened right after Superman II, ignoring III and IV

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    certain ideals, and the characters that represent them, become old, tired and irrelevant after a fashion

    the superman that was raised by an all-caring pa kent might no longer fit current societal expectations

    you gotta update an origin story, and every aspect related to it, in order for a character to stay relevant

    otherwise you might as well be complaining he's no longer wearing the red underwear on the outside anymore

    yeah but one of the major elements (in my view) of the character is that he was raised by good, kind, caring, salt-of-the-earth people to be that kind of person

    if he raised by a guy who doesn't know whether it's better to save yourself or a whole busload of other people, he's not going to have that strength of conviction that Superman should have

    Superman is a guy who jumps in and helps without thinking about himself

    I think this is the same thing with Bruce Wayne trying to kill the mob boss with a gun in Batman Begins

    he isn't Batman yet

    the character is not formed

    so this'll be a Superman who's possibly raised to follow an ideal, even though his parents, being human and thus flawed, cannot

    but he, being more than human, realizes he can, and should, and must

    edit: possibly

    the story could also be terrible, who knows yet

    I'm just saying, singling this thing out doesn't mean SUPERMAN IS RUINED

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Man

    you are saying Pa Kent is a huge cynical jerk based off of one line of him being conflicted over his son revealing he is basically a walking alien god and forever ostracizing him and his family and potentially ruining Clark's entire life or saving a bus full of kids in an accident that, presumably, wasn't Clark's fault.

    It isn't like he said "Yes, you should have left them to die."

    I don't mind Pa not having the 100% correct answer every single time. Sometimes shit is hard and it is difficult to know what the right thing to do is.

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    certain ideals, and the characters that represent them, become old, tired and irrelevant after a fashion

    the superman that was raised by an all-caring pa kent might no longer fit current societal expectations

    you gotta update an origin story, and every aspect related to it, in order for a character to stay relevant

    otherwise you might as well be complaining he's no longer wearing the red underwear on the outside anymore

    You know people do that all the time here, right?

    yup

    and I think it's incredibly stupid

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Man

    you are saying Pa Kent is a huge cynical jerk based off of one line of him being conflicted over his son revealing he is basically a walking alien god and forever ostracizing him and his family and potentially ruining Clark's entire life or saving a bus full of kids in an accident that, presumably, wasn't Clark's fault.

    It isn't like he said "Yes, you should have left them to die."

    I don't mind Pa not having the 100% correct answer every single time. Sometimes shit is hard and it is difficult to know what the right thing to do is.

    It's hard, having an alien god for a son
    It's hard and nobody understands

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah Indie don't get into a "underwear on the outside" argument

    you can't win

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