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Need some advice on PC upgrades for next gen gaming
Dr. Chaos
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I don't know how many PC gamers we have here but I was planning to upgrade my PC next month. I've been getting into PC gaming in the last year or so but I'm still new to it so forgive me if any of this sounds wrong or misinformed.
Would a Radeon HD 7750 and a 500 watt power supply be alright for next gen gaming? I don't want to play games on high settings, I'm pretty satisfied with low to medium as long as it runs stable.
I figure my 5570 will have drawn it's last breath by the time Fallout 4 rolls around so I'm trying to prepare for my soon to be "this card is shit and you aren't going to be able to barely squeeze by with it anymore" apocalypse that seems to be imminent by Witcher 2 being a stuttering mess for me even on low settings.
I keep hearing talk of Microsoft basing their GPU (graphics card?) for their next system on a AMD 7850 and if that comes to pass I'm hoping with this maybe I could keep running any new releases that might catch my eye in the next year or two.
It's about all I can afford at the moment.
Would a Radeon HD 7750 and a 500 watt power supply be alright for next gen gaming? I don't want to play games on high settings, I'm pretty satisfied with low to medium as long as it runs stable.
I figure my 5570 will have drawn it's last breath by the time Fallout 4 rolls around so I'm trying to prepare for my soon to be "this card is shit and you aren't going to be able to barely squeeze by with it anymore" apocalypse that seems to be imminent by Witcher 2 being a stuttering mess for me even on low settings.
I keep hearing talk of Microsoft basing their GPU (graphics card?) for their next system on a AMD 7850 and if that comes to pass I'm hoping with this maybe I could keep running any new releases that might catch my eye in the next year or two.
It's about all I can afford at the moment.
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It's always hard to tell what people mean by 'next-gen,' but a 500w PSU almost certainly won't meet your future needs, if you can even build a satisfactory system with one now. If you're looking at upgrading components piecemeal and/or overclocking as a way of extending your system's life down the road, it will definitely become an issue. I'd step up to something at least few hundred watts higher.
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For instance, to run a GTX680, the best single chip graphics card available (the GTX690 is just two 680s crammed onto a single card), MAXES out at around 275-285 watts draw running test demos in 3DMark 11.
I could run my system (i7-3770K at 4.5GHz, Corsair H100 cooler, 16 gigs of 1600MHz Vengeance, Gigabyte GTX680 OC, 256GB Samsung 830 SSD, Asus Xonar DX sound card, and BluRay burner) off a quality 500 watt PSU if I wanted to. I only bought a 760 watt unit because I have a strange feeling when NVidia release the 700 range of cards and prices on current cards drop I'm probably going to snap up a second 680 and get my SLI on...
EDIT: This thing is roughly as powerful as a GTX8800 Ultra, and yet doesn't even need an auxiliary power cable.
A 77xx series card is less than amazing but if you only care about it "working" then yeah it'll probably be fine
a 78xx series is probably going to have more pop
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As far as the choice of GPU, a 7750 won't cut it at 1080p+ resolutions once games designed for the next generation of consoles start coming out. It'll be good for current games though, and you can budget to save up for a better card once you actually need it.
1 GPU and 1-2 hard drives should be plenty for a 500w to handle (probably enough for 350w).
I agree that providing a budget is the best way to go about getting advice. There is a huge range of prices for what you can get and with the prices changing all the time something suggested today may be $50-100 cheaper a month from now. I've built a few computers for work over the past three months and at the $850 range I am getting 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, i5 CPU, 500W PSU and a 3D modelling graphics card($160 range) along with the case. If you have some components that are still good(HDD, PSU, case, DVD) then that cuts out a bit that you don't need, roughly $150-250 at a minimum.
Thinking the most I'll be able to spare on this venture is about $200. Not ideal but I figured I would take a shot and see if I could find anything to help me squeeze by for another two or three years.
Last I checked, my current power supply is 250 watts. I'll open up the PC later tonight and write down as much information as I can.
But I haven't really changed anything in it since I bought it aside from putting in the previously mentioned 5570 and disabling the measly integrated one , it's a Hewlett Packard model: p6716f.
Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 640 Processor 3.00 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 6.00 GB
System type: 64 bit operating system
Shoot for 450 to be safe with GPUs. Don't SLI, SLI is relegated to the realm of "I like to build computers and am a huge building computer nerd."
That also limits the need for you to have a massively powerful PSU for your system.
They use somewhat more power than a 7000-series, but the cost of that is minimal. If you can't get one a 7770 is the second-best bet for medium quality gaming.
The PSU is at least a standard ATX size, so we can sling one of these in their case, and that will power one of these really nicely.
For $200 your system will run newly-released games quite nicely at 1080p.
@Lezard Valeth there, I wrote what you meant to.
Dr. Chaos, a Radeon HD 7850 would do you well in that price range, and would be a massive upgrade over a 5570. A 7750 won't cut it.
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I used to think that way but not anymore. I have gotten so much more out of some of my all time favorite games like Fallout 3 after switching to the PC version. I can't live without mods now that I've had a taste.
Skyrim, for example, vs Skyrim for the PS3.
That's completely false now that we have Steam, Origin, what have you.
You literally click on the game and it runs.
You know, just like you do on the console.
Except you don't have to get up and get the disc.
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Oh no, definitely. I used to think that way too, in the days where to play a game on PC you had to go get a disc, install the damn game, deal with 10 million problems that arise during the install, just to have the game crash as soon as you launch it.
But that era's been gone for a while now, just what I was getting at :P
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if you can stand to wait a few months, it might be a good idea to see what level of hardware the two will be using. you can base your own PC build off those specs, in part because devs will be shooting for at least those platforms generally.
at least, that's what i'm hoping when i finally start a new build around then!
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If the rumors are right, Quad-core CPU + best GPU you can afford, minimum Radeon HD 7870 or Geforce 650Ti. There won't be any new GPUs out by then that I know of.
Took me two hours of panicking at start up because it kept mentioning needing to reboot or something about proper media but it turned out I was just being a dumbass and forgot to connect one last cable.
I am amazed I didn't fuck this up.