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Let's Reticulate Some Servers [SIM CITY]

NiryaNirya Registered User regular
edited March 2013 in Social Entropy++
So the Sim City beta dropped this weekend. Anyone else get on it?

For those who don't know, Sim City is a city-building simulator developed by Maxis. Pretty simple stuff. The series has been around since 1989, with the last mainline game coming in 2003 (NO SIM CITY SOCIETIES DOES NOT COUNT SHUT YOUR MOUTH).

Here are some of the cool new things that you can do in the new Sim City.

-Curved roads. No seriously, this is way cooler than it sounds.

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LOOK AT THAT.

-Regions. Cities exist as part of larger regions. These regions can trade between each other, and can specialize, leading to a diverse global economy. For example, in the tutorial mission, the city next to you has specialized in gambling and commerce, and sends you water and garbage collecting services. In return, your city grows into more of a residential area, and many of your residents commute to the opposite city for work. The money they make is then spent in your town. Regions also free up space in the towns, allowing for separate airports to accommodate a region. Cities in a region can affect each other in different ways, including pollution, crime, and more.

-MULTIPLAYER! The first Sim City game to have true multiplayer, you can play with friends and develop regions cooperatively or by yourself.

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There are some downsides I've seen so far. Here's what I've come across.

-Always-online DRM. Similar to Diablo 3 where you have to be online to play the game, whether multiplayer or single player. Maxis and EA have received a ton of flack for this, but have been staunch with their decision.

-City size. Part of the appeal of the older Sim City games was the city sizes, which could grow into the millions. The new Sim City seems to have toned it down. I'm not sure if the beta just has a smaller city plot size just for testing, but the cities don't seem to be that big. Here's a picture showing a rough estimate.

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All that said, I'm still enjoying what I've played so far, and I already have ideas for larger regions once the game comes out. So let's talk about the beta (this weekend only, for now) while we can. Full game comes out March 5.

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  • FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    where can I get this beta?

  • animal companionanimal companion xenomortis Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
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    Curved. Roads.

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  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    I might get this game.

  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Franko wrote: »
    where can I get this beta?

    There were signups back in August. Right now it's in closed beta, no idea if it will open up.

    One other thing I forgot to mention. This game is gorgeous. Like, ridiculously good looking for what it is.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Six by six plots.

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  • FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    what the so I can't play?
    someone start streaming so I can watch a city be built and then later destroyed by Godzilla

  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    That picture has a street car that only covers a three block back & forth route.

  • animal companionanimal companion xenomortis Registered User regular
    i thought the whole point of sim city was that you can start with plot and end up a burgeoning metropolis in the millions

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    did anyone else ever play with sim city 2000's sprite editor?

    not sure i ever even got one into the game but if i did i bet it looked like the run-down dumps that pop up when you don't get your zones right

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  • apricotmuffinsapricotmuffins Angry Bee Registered User regular
    Lots of controversy over the always online state of this or so I hear.

  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
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    i have this, on amiga

    god this is going to own

  • ManishtushuManishtushu Registered User regular
    I was looking forward to this game, and I've played around with the beta for a bit. The whole simulation thing is great, being able to see dudes going about their fake (but now consistent!) lives, and at least now it feels like the traffic isn't running on some weird voodoo, but nothing has really struck me as terribly fun.

    I guess I just miss the quirky newspaper.

  • BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    Lots of controversy over the always online state of this or so I hear.

    To bad it is rapidly becoming the standard.

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  • animal companionanimal companion xenomortis Registered User regular
    it's kinda crazy how an industry standard that literally zero consumers want is becoming so

    like, not everyone loathes it like they maybe oughta

    but no one likes it

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  • animal companionanimal companion xenomortis Registered User regular
    i do honestly think that that shit will be a dealbreaker for me

    i feel the need to draw a line in the sand over it

    i also swore a blood oath to never install Origin for any reason

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  • animal companionanimal companion xenomortis Registered User regular
    if people would actually follow through & not buy games because of draconian online-only then maybe the industry would reconsider

    but its clearly not enough of a hit for enough to stop paying for that service

    also it might simply drive up piracy which the industry is probably ready to write off as simple piracy, not caused by the drm

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  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    so a city in the new SimCity is a six-by-six-block grid

    and you can't actually save your game, each "city" is persistent

    and you need to always be online to play at all, even if you never use multiplayer

    and it's on Origin

    and that's all a shame, because so far, the actual systems look better than any previous SimCity, but this shit taken in aggregate has completely sold me off the game.

  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Oh dang. I never signed up :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    people who want/need to get around the always online stuff will find a way to get around it

    people who don't, won't

    honestly as far as DRM systems go it's one of the least invasive ones there are, and far better than the vast majority of the ones attempted so far

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Hmmm yeah. I feel for the people affected by always online, like dudes who work ship jobs and such. But it continues to not be an issue for me and I continue to not care that much.
    Weaver wrote: »
    That picture has a street car that only covers a three block back & forth route.

    GM bought the street car system in that city.

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    gtrmp wrote: »
    so a city in the new SimCity is a six-by-six-block grid

    and you can't actually save your game, each "city" is persistent

    and you need to always be online to play at all, even if you never use multiplayer

    and it's on Origin

    and that's all a shame, because so far, the actual systems look better than any previous SimCity, but this shit taken in aggregate has completely sold me off the game.

    My impressions are that you're completely right about the cities being smaller, but there's a much bigger emphasis on building multiple cities

    You're meant to have each city in a region specialize in one certain thing, and they'd provide that thing to the rest of the cities in the region

    So your city on the coast would specialize in water production and would then provide water to the whole region, you'd have one city dedicated to coal production that provided power, one city dedicated to waste management, etc.

    But then you still have to manage those cities normally, keeping people happy and working

    It's pretty different from SimCity 4, but I think it's really interesting but also I could be totally wrong and that's not actually how it works

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Well I'm glad they're trying something new at least, because if they're weren't we already have simcity 2k and it's already perfect.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    I kinda wanna get farm simulator 2013 and combine harvest the shit out of some cows

  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    I went to play but then it said you only get an hour and I was like what the hell?

  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    people who want/need to get around the always online stuff will find a way to get around it

    people who don't, won't

    honestly as far as DRM systems go it's one of the least invasive ones there are, and far better than the vast majority of the ones attempted so far

    Least invasive?

    What would you say is the most invasive that you've seen?

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Goose! wrote: »
    I went to play but then it said you only get an hour and I was like what the hell?

    You only get an hour per city. So you can start as many cities as you want, but only get an hour in each.

    Also, the servers have been down most of today. I guess this is why you have a beta, but that doesn't bode well for the release of a game with always-online DRM.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Goatmon wrote: »
    people who want/need to get around the always online stuff will find a way to get around it

    people who don't, won't

    honestly as far as DRM systems go it's one of the least invasive ones there are, and far better than the vast majority of the ones attempted so far

    Least invasive?

    What would you say is the most invasive that you've seen?

    StarForce

    edit: Oh and fucking SecuROM

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    so far: i love watching the poop.

  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I am really looking forward to this, but I'm working all weekend so I didn't sign up for the beta

  • MachwingMachwing It looks like a harmless old computer, doesn't it? Left in this cave to rot ... or to flower!Registered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    Well I'm glad they're trying something new at least, because if they're weren't we already have simcity 2k and it's already perfect.

    bzzzt

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    There's a part of the tutorial where you have to reopen a police station to help curb crime.

    It cuts to these criminals and shows the police in action.

    Turns out the criminals had taken a bank hostage and the police went in and started shooting up the place. It was incredible.

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  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    Nirya wrote: »
    There's a part of the tutorial where you have to reopen a police station to help curb crime.

    It cuts to these criminals and shows the police in action.

    Turns out the criminals had taken a bank hostage and the police went in and started shooting up the place. It was incredible.

    Good to know that at least one part of the game is realistic.

  • LuvTheMonkeyLuvTheMonkey High Sierra Serenade Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Nirya wrote: »
    There's a part of the tutorial where you have to reopen a police station to help curb crime.

    It cuts to these criminals and shows the police in action.

    Turns out the criminals had taken a bank hostage and the police went in and started shooting up the place. It was incredible.

    I think the choice of building is dynamic. Mine was a biotechnology corporation's building. And yeah it was pretty awesome.

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
    Looking forward to this!

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    the best game

  • mullymully Registered User regular
    im getting somewhat frustrated by being unable to have the buildings follow the curvatures
    every city i've made has been horribly messy
    but it's probably because i'm not used to it yet

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    I'm still figuring out how to space out blocks

    as it stands I keep making blocks that are too big and have giant useless spaces in between houses and shit

  • mullymully Registered User regular
    yep, me too
    i think i'll make a circle city now
    my first city was star shaped

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    also

    Beta my ass

    this is a demo masquerading as a beta because betas get people more excited than demos these days

  • FortyTwoFortyTwo strongest man in the world The Land of Pleasant Living Registered User regular
    How do I do this thing?! I need this to happen.

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