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Another [Tax] Thread for 2012 Tax Returns

ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
edited January 2013 in Help / Advice Forum
It's about that time. Have tax questions about 2012? Or maybe tax answers? Just have a hard-on for government forms in general?

Post about it here. You can make a new thread too, but it's probably easier for everyone to find answers to questions already asked if it's all in one place.

Just in case this needs to be said, and I don't think it should, no one here is going to help you cheat on your taxes, nor is this the place to editorialize. If you want to talk about how you hate paying them or anything that isn't how-to, there are other places to do that.

I will try to gather generally useful links in the OP as usual.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    I made 620$ as business income, I filed it under additional income this year rather than "as a business" income, the tax hit was far less substantial (~$70 vs ~$170). This is where turbotax is telling me to put it, too, is this wrong?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    On Monday, two days before the delayed Jan. 30 start of the 2013 filing season, the IRS announced a further delay in processing returns that contain Form 8863, Education Credits, which must be filed by people claiming the American opportunity and the lifetime learning tax credits (IR-2013-10). During testing, the IRS discovered that programming modifications must be made before the form can be processed correctly so returns that include the form cannot be filed until mid-February.

    The IRS emphasized that returns claiming other education-related items, such as the student loan interest deduction and the deduction for higher education tuition or fees, can be filed beginning Wednesday, Jan. 30.

    Here are the additional forms that will only be accepted by the IRS in mid-February or March 2013
    Form 3800 General Business Credit
    Form 4136 Credit for Federal Tax Paid on Fuels
    Form 4562 Depreciation and Amortization (Including Information on Listed Property)
    Form 5074 Allocation of Individual Income Tax to Guam or the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands
    Form 5471 Information Return of U.S. Persons With Respect to Certain Foreign Corporations
    Form 5695 Residential Energy Credits
    Form 5735 American Samoa Economic Development Credit
    Form 5884 Work Opportunity Credit
    Form 6478 Credit for Alcohol Used as Fuel
    Form 6765 Credit for Increasing Research Activities
    Form 8396 Mortgage Interest Credit
    Form 8582 Passive Activity Loss Limitations
    Form 8820 Orphan Drug Credit
    Form 8834 Qualified Plug-in Electric and Electric Vehicle Credit
    Form 8839 Qualified Adoption Expenses
    Form 8844 Empowerment Zone and Renewal Community Employment Credit
    Form 8845 Indian Employment Credit
    Form 8859 District of Columbia First-Time Homebuyer Credit
    Form 8864 Biodiesel and Renewable Diesel Fuels Credit
    Form 8874 New Markets Credits
    Form 8900 Qualified Railroad Track Maintenance Credit
    Form 8903 Domestic Production Activities Deduction
    Form 8908 Energy Efficient Home Credit
    Form 8909 Energy Efficient Appliance Credit
    Form 8910 Alternative Motor Vehicle Credit
    Form 8911 Alternative Fuel Vehicle Refueling Property Credit
    Form 8912 Credit to Holders of Tax Credit Bonds
    Form 8923 Mine Rescue Team Training Credit
    Form 8932 Credit for Employer Differential Wage Payments
    Form 8936 Qualified Plug-in Electric Drive Motor Vehicle Credit

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    bowen wrote: »
    I made 620$ as business income, I filed it under additional income this year rather than "as a business" income, the tax hit was far less substantial (~$70 vs ~$170). This is where turbotax is telling me to put it, too, is this wrong?

    The reason why the tax hit was less substantial is because you are not paying self-employment taxes on the business income. You must categorize the income as self-employment income if the net earnings from that employment income were $400 or above.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Er, this may be a dumb question, but "Mortgage Interest Credit" is not the same as the mortgage interest deduction right?

  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Correct. A mortgage interest deduction will go on Schedule A, or the schedule which you use to itemize your deductions. Form 8396 (The Mortgage Interest Credit) is typically for people who hold a Qualified Mortgage Credit Certificate

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    tyrannus wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    I made 620$ as business income, I filed it under additional income this year rather than "as a business" income, the tax hit was far less substantial (~$70 vs ~$170). This is where turbotax is telling me to put it, too, is this wrong?

    The reason why the tax hit was less substantial is because you are not paying self-employment taxes on the business income. You must categorize the income as self-employment income if the net earnings from that employment income were $400 or above.

    Hm. You'd think that'd throw up some red flags on turbotax, wonder why it's letting me put that.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Oh nevermind, it threw it in business income and expenses.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Income earned from my Health Savings Account is tax-free, right?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • ZombieJeffZombieJeff Registered User regular
    When I filed my 2011 taxes, we ended up owing for the first time ever, around $1000. My wife and I got married halfway through the year, and we changed our withholdings to "married." Turned out my wife wasn't having enough tax taken out, so we ended up changing both of our W4s to "Married" with 0 allowances. My understanding was that that would end us a refund, since we're having the most tax taken out. Clearly we did something wrong, since this year we owe around $1200.

    I know that filing separately isn't the answer -- we make roughly similar salaries, and the only big deduction we have is mortgage interest, property taxes, and mortgage insurance premiums.

    Any ideas as to how to how to avoid this next year? Not that I want our paychecks to shrink anymore than they already did from the payroll tax holiday expiration, but I'd like to not be surprised by this again next January...

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    When you make similar salaries, you should file separately. It's only when one makes drastically more than the other that MFJ makes sense (you reduce the tax liability of the higher one). That's what I've been told.

    Switching it to 0 helps, but a lot of the tax calculation goes into the whole "I am keeping the same status throughout the year."

    So if you change status, you tend to get hit. Same goes with a job where you make vastly more at halfway through the year. This is why I always file 0, always. Better to get a big refund than owe a huge amount, and the pittance of interest I'd earn off a grand.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    So my wife was at college for half of last year, and technically earned wages in another state (via telecommute) - does that make her a resident of the state? I'm guessing yes, as far as tax purposes go, although she never changed her DL or registered to vote in that state. What do we put down as the "date of residence"? When she moved into her apartment, or when she started working?

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    When you make similar salaries, you should file separately. It's only when one makes drastically more than the other that MFJ makes sense (you reduce the tax liability of the higher one). That's what I've been told.

    Switching it to 0 helps, but a lot of the tax calculation goes into the whole "I am keeping the same status throughout the year."

    So if you change status, you tend to get hit. Same goes with a job where you make vastly more at halfway through the year. This is why I always file 0, always. Better to get a big refund than owe a huge amount, and the pittance of interest I'd earn off a grand.
    This is not accurate.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    I was under the impression MFS is only beneficial if you can't itemize?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    We've been filing jointly for 8-9 years and when we run the calculation it's been a wash MFS or MFJ, excepting it costs twice and much (edit: to file) and takes more work to file separately. For most people* married filing jointly is going to be a net benefit in the form of more allowable deductions and credits.

    But it seems weird to me that setting both allowances to 0 would result in underwithholding. The IRS-dictated way of doing it is to take all the allowances on one spouse's W-4 (the higher income earner I think) and set the other spouse's W-4 to 0 allowances.


    *Edit: To clarify, you lose certain deductions/credits if you choose MFS, but if you MFS your individual AGI is reduced so if you need to deduct outsized expenses (medical expenses, theft losses) then it's easier to hit the percentage of AGI required to claim those particular deductions. In the online/software tax prep I've used they always let you try MFS before you send in your form to file jointly.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Djeet wrote: »
    We've been filing jointly for 8-9 years and when we run the calculation it's been a wash MFS or MFJ, excepting it costs twice and much (edit: to file) and takes more work to file separately. For most people* married filing jointly is going to be a net benefit in the form of more allowable deductions and credits.

    But it seems weird to me that setting both allowances to 0 would result in underwithholding. The IRS-dictated way of doing it is to take all the allowances on one spouse's W-4 (the higher income earner I think) and set the other spouse's W-4 to 0 allowances.


    *Edit: To clarify, you lose certain deductions/credits if you choose MFS, but if you MFS your individual AGI is reduced so if you need to deduct outsized expenses (medical expenses, theft losses) then it's easier to hit the percentage of AGI required to claim those particular deductions. In the online/software tax prep I've used they always let you try MFS before you send in your form to file jointly.

    I've had it come around and bite me in the ass because some payroll places are terrible at calculating taxes, or are using old guidelines, or, factor it based off a salary and not your actual hourly wage (if I get $25,000 a year, but worked a ton of overtime but for some reason they only figure it out based on your salary and consider OT a "bonus").

    Some places are really shitty for some reason.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    I have a small amount of freelance income from January 2012 that I was never given any documentation of, receipts, invoices, or otherwise. The sum is less than two thousand dollars and is related to work primarily performed in December of 2011.

    It is the only freelance income I have for the entire year.

    What can I do other than arbitrarily claim the sum? I have no way to contact the person who paid me. I ask because I do now know the exact amount paid in calendar year 2012, only the total amount paid between 12/11 and 01/12

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  • ZombieJeffZombieJeff Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I've had it come around and bite me in the ass because some payroll places are terrible at calculating taxes, or are using old guidelines, or, factor it based off a salary and not your actual hourly wage (if I get $25,000 a year, but worked a ton of overtime but for some reason they only figure it out based on your salary and consider OT a "bonus").

    Some places are really shitty for some reason.

    I'm guessing that's the problem. My wife changed jobs this year, and although her salary didn't change significantly, she did go from one permanent job, to a temp-to-perm through an agency, to being hired on full time at the new place, so she ultimately had three separate payroll companies who each had a chance to mess things up.

    I'll chalk it up to payroll shenanigans this year and not change anything going forward. Worst case, we'll owe a similar amount next April, and I'll at least plan for it this year instead of get blindsided. Thanks.

  • Ana NgAna Ng Registered User regular
    I got married this past august, so this is the first year doing taxes married. We've leaned towards filing jointly and it sounds like that might be best? We will be using hr block to do taxes online. Any tips/advice would be helpful.

  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    How do I get the amount I paid in mortgage interest over the year? The form the loan owner (Chase) sent me did not include it. I had PMI on both loans (refinanced this year). I feel like I'm missing something since H&R Block at Home asked about it. I see nothing terribly useful on the Chase website.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I have a small amount of freelance income from January 2012 that I was never given any documentation of, receipts, invoices, or otherwise. The sum is less than two thousand dollars and is related to work primarily performed in December of 2011.

    It is the only freelance income I have for the entire year.

    What can I do other than arbitrarily claim the sum? I have no way to contact the person who paid me. I ask because I do now know the exact amount paid in calendar year 2012, only the total amount paid between 12/11 and 01/12

    Whenever you received the cash is when you pick it up as income. I would wait to file and see if the person sends you a 1099 (they should). This will, however, be only if you gave them enough info for them to furnish one of those to you.

    You can book some standard expenses that you used to generate the income, but be sure you can support the expenses with actual documentation, e.g. receipts, mileage logs, etc.

  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    jclast wrote: »
    How do I get the amount I paid in mortgage interest over the year? The form the loan owner (Chase) sent me did not include it. I had PMI on both loans (refinanced this year). I feel like I'm missing something since H&R Block at Home asked about it. I see nothing terribly useful on the Chase website.
    If your 1098 Mortgage Interest Statement isn't correct by, well, basically tomorrow, call them up and see what's the hold up.

  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    So my wife was at college for half of last year, and technically earned wages in another state (via telecommute) - does that make her a resident of the state? I'm guessing yes, as far as tax purposes go, although she never changed her DL or registered to vote in that state. What do we put down as the "date of residence"? When she moved into her apartment, or when she started working?
    What state are we talkin here

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Filing Status
    The first step to filing your federal income tax return is to determine which filing status to use. Your filing status is used to determine your filing requirements, standard deduction, eligibility for certain credits and deductions, and your correct tax. There are five filing statuses: Single, Married Filing Jointly, Married Filing Separately, Head of Household and Qualifying Widow(er) with Dependent Child.

    Here are eight facts about the five filing status options the IRS wants you to know so that you can choose the best option for your situation.
    1) Your marital status on the last day of the year determines your marital status for the entire year.

    2) If more than one filing status applies to you, choose the one that gives you the lowest tax obligation.

    3) Single filing status generally applies to anyone who is unmarried, divorced or legally separated according to state law.

    4) A married couple may file a joint return together. The couple’s filing status would be Married Filing Jointly.

    5) If your spouse died during the year and you did not remarry during 2010, usually you may still file a joint return with that spouse for the year of death.

    6) A married couple may elect to file their returns separately. Each person’s filing status would generally be Married Filing Separately.

    7) Head of Household generally applies to taxpayers who are unmarried. You must also have paid more than half the cost of maintaining a home for you and a qualifying person to qualify for this filing status.

    8) You may be able to choose Qualifying Widow(er) with Dependent Child as your filing status if your spouse died during 2008 or 2009, you have a dependent child and you meet certain other conditions.
    See Publication 501, Exemptions, Standard Deduction, and Filing Information for more detail.
    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p501.pdf

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  • localh77localh77 Registered User regular
    ZombieJeff wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    I've had it come around and bite me in the ass because some payroll places are terrible at calculating taxes, or are using old guidelines, or, factor it based off a salary and not your actual hourly wage (if Iwww get $25,000 a year, but worked a ton of overtime but for some reason they only figure it out based on your salary and consider OT a "bonus").

    Some places are really shitty for some reason.

    I'm guessing that's the problem. My wife changed jobs this year, and although her salary didn't change significantly, she did go from one permanent job, to a temp-to-perm through an agency, to being hired on full time at the new place, so she ultimately had three separate payroll companies who each had a chance to mess things up.

    I'll chalk it up to payroll shenanigans this year and not change anything going forward. Worst case, we'll owe a similar amount next April, and I'll at least plan for it this year instead of get blindsided. Thanks.

    I think what I'd recommend in your case is either for one of you to change your status to "married but withhold at single rate", or just have them hold a little extra from each check. $50/check should do it.

  • localh77localh77 Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I have a small amount of freelance income from January 2012 that I was never given any documentation of, receipts, invoices, or otherwise. The sum is less than two thousand dollars and is related to work primarily performed in December of 2011.

    It is the only freelance income I have for the entire year.

    What can I do other than arbitrarily claim the sum? I have no way to contact the person who paid me. I ask because I do now know the exact amount paid in calendar year 2012, only the total amount paid between 12/11 and 01/12

    Can you look through your December and January bank statements?

  • localh77localh77 Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I was under the impression MFS is only beneficial if you can't itemize?

    With the current tax brackets, which were extended for at least another year, there aren't many situations where married filing separate is better. The only obvious thing that comes to mind is if one spouse has a prior tax liability, and you don't want the IRS to take your entire refund.

  • localh77localh77 Registered User regular
    Ana Ng wrote: »
    I got married this past august, so this is the first year doing taxes married. We've leaned towards filing jointly and it sounds like that might be best? We will be using hr block to do taxes online. Any tips/advice would be helpful.

    It's worth noting that if you live in a community property state (there are 9), both spouses have to split everything (income, deductions, etc) down the middle, which will likely negate any potential benefit.

  • sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    The more qualified people we get in these things the better I feel about having them!

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  • sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    localh77 wrote: »
    Ana Ng wrote: »
    I got married this past august, so this is the first year doing taxes married. We've leaned towards filing jointly and it sounds like that might be best? We will be using hr block to do taxes online. Any tips/advice would be helpful.

    It's worth noting that if you live in a community property state (there are 9), both spouses have to split everything (income, deductions, etc) down the middle, which will likely negate any potential benefit.

    You should get some sort of optimization option as well; like an alert that "MFS WOULD PRODUCE x.xx in TAX SAVINGS" or something.

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  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2013
    So, both my husband and I live in New York and work in New Jersey. We get New Jersey taxes deducted from our paychecks. But we should only pay New York taxes, right? As in, we should get a refund of the NJ taxes and then pay the NY taxes. Only turbotax isn't giving us a full refund of the NJ taxes.. it may be a turbotax issue, but I wanted to make sure I understood the state tax thing correctly. Because it would suck to owe both NJ and NY taxes...

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  • shwaipshwaip Registered User regular
    just fyi, for anyone who has a tuition waiver / scholarship / etc, turbotax online appears to not know how to properly handle a 1098t. It keeps saying the waiver is taxable income. You can maybe hack around it by answering some questions non-intuitively, but H+R block's software seems to do it correctly.

    i have to wait for more info to be available from vanguard, and hopefully they'll fix it by the time i'm ready to file.

  • JazarayJazaray Registered User new member
    Hiya, a friend of mine sent me here because I had a couple of questions about taxes.

    Question 1. My brother, his girlfriend, their daughter and her two kids from a previous relationship live with my parents. Neither my brother or his g/f have jobs and my parent's have been supporting them all for several years now. Can my Mom claim the two kids who aren't my brother's on her taxes? What if their father wants to claim them instead, does that matter? Does he get them if he wants them because he's their Dad? Is it a matter of who files first?

    Question 2. My step daughter started her first job this past year in August. Her mother said that she should file taxes for herself, I told my step daughter that it doesn't make much sense to me because her father gets a lot more back in taxes claiming her as a dependent than she would filing her own taxes (she made less than $1,000). She then said that her Mom said she could file and still be able to be claimed as a dependent on her father's taxes. It doesn't sound right to me, but what do I know? :) Is this possible?


    Thanks,
    Jazaray

  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    So, both my husband and I live in New York and work in New Jersey. We get New Jersey taxes deducted from our paychecks. But we should only pay New York taxes, right? As in, we should get a refund of the NJ taxes and then pay the NY taxes. Only turbotax isn't giving us a full refund of the NJ taxes.. it may be a turbotax issue, but I wanted to make sure I understood the state tax thing correctly. Because it would suck to owe both NJ and NY taxes...

    Typically what is done is when you file a nonresident New Jersey return, it takes your total income off your 1040 and then takes your income earned in New Jersey and calculates tax on that. Then you have your NJ withholding deducted from your New Jersey balance due. On your New York return, it also does this same pro-rating, but you get a credit for any taxes you paid to New Jersey on your New York return. You do not, however, get more credit than what the New York tax would be on that New Jersey income.

    I don't know turbotax, but that is the procedure.

    EDIT: It might be that some tax programs cannot do nonresident returns just yet. I believe TaxAct is one of these.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    shwaip wrote: »
    just fyi, for anyone who has a tuition waiver / scholarship / etc, turbotax online appears to not know how to properly handle a 1098t. It keeps saying the waiver is taxable income. You can maybe hack around it by answering some questions non-intuitively, but H+R block's software seems to do it correctly.

    i have to wait for more info to be available from vanguard, and hopefully they'll fix it by the time i'm ready to file.

    http://www.irs.gov/publications/p970/ch01.html

    There are cases where your scholarship can be taxable. Refer to Table 1-1 in the above publication for details. Check to see if you have answered anything that may trigger this.

    As an aside, when claiming qualified education expenses for the purposes of education credits, If you pay qualified education expenses with certain tax-free funds, you cannot claim a credit for those amounts. You must reduce the qualified education expenses by the amount of any tax-free educational assistance and refund(s) you received.

  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    Jazaray wrote: »
    Hiya, a friend of mine sent me here because I had a couple of questions about taxes.

    Question 1. My brother, his girlfriend, their daughter and her two kids from a previous relationship live with my parents. Neither my brother or his g/f have jobs and my parent's have been supporting them all for several years now. Can my Mom claim the two kids who aren't my brother's on her taxes? What if their father wants to claim them instead, does that matter? Does he get them if he wants them because he's their Dad? Is it a matter of who files first?

    Question 2. My step daughter started her first job this past year in August. Her mother said that she should file taxes for herself, I told my step daughter that it doesn't make much sense to me because her father gets a lot more back in taxes claiming her as a dependent than she would filing her own taxes (she made less than $1,000). She then said that her Mom said she could file and still be able to be claimed as a dependent on her father's taxes. It doesn't sound right to me, but what do I know? :) Is this possible?


    Thanks,
    Jazaray

    Question 1) Was Form 8332 filed? Otherwise, the father may not actually be entitled to the exemptions.

    The dependency rules for qualifying child are as follows:

    1) Relationship - Your son, daughter, stepchild, foster child, or a descendant (for example, your grandchild) of any of them, or Your brother, sister, half brother, half sister, stepbrother, stepsister, or a descendant (for example, your niece or nephew) of any of them.

    2 Age - They gotta be below 19 at the end of the year, or below 24 if they are a full-time college student

    3) Support - this seems covered.

    4) Residency - the kids have to live with Mom for half a year, but here's where it gets a little tricky.
    Children of divorced or separated parents (or parents who live apart). In most cases, because of the residency test, a child of divorced or separated parents is the qualifying child of the custodial parent. However, the child will be treated as the qualifying child of the noncustodial parent if all four of the following statements are true.

    1)The parents:

    a)Are divorced or legally separated under a decree of divorce or separate maintenance,

    b)Are separated under a written separation agreement, or

    c)Lived apart at all times during the last 6 months of the year, whether or not they are or were married.

    d)The child received over half of his or her support for the year from the parents.

    e)The child is in the custody of one or both parents for more than half of the year.

    2)Either of the following statements is true.

    a) The custodial parent signs a written declaration, discussed later, that he or she will not claim the child as a dependent for the year, and the noncustodial parent attaches this written declaration to his or her return. (If the decree or agreement went into effect after 1984 and before 2009, see Post-1984 and pre-2009 divorce decree or separation agreement , later. If the decree or agreement went into effect after 2008, see Post-2008 divorce decree or separation agreement , later.)

    b) A pre-1985 decree of divorce or separate maintenance or written separation agreement that applies to 2012 states that the noncustodial parent can claim the child as a dependent, the decree or agreement was not changed after 1984 to say the noncustodial parent cannot claim the child as a dependent, and the noncustodial parent provides at least $600 for the child's support during the year.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    Jazaray wrote: »
    Question 2. My step daughter started her first job this past year in August. Her mother said that she should file taxes for herself, I told my step daughter that it doesn't make much sense to me because her father gets a lot more back in taxes claiming her as a dependent than she would filing her own taxes (she made less than $1,000). She then said that her Mom said she could file and still be able to be claimed as a dependent on her father's taxes. It doesn't sound right to me, but what do I know? :) Is this possible?


    Thanks,
    Jazaray
    that last part is true

    she can file her return but say "hey I'm a dependent", get her withholding back, and have the father claim her as a dependent.

  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    Is there a difference between having your deductions at 'married taxed as single' vs leaving it at single when filing jointly and married?

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