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Pokemon Fan Games

gad77gad77 Registered User regular
edited March 2007 in Games and Technology
There is a nice new pokemon game coming out in the near future with rumors that it will be similar to an MMO.

There are in fact several fan based ones currently up and running. http://www.pokemononline.org/ is one of them. It follows the game boy game religiously but offers all the content, chat and pvp battles.

There are tons of php based MMOs. There are several for Pokemon but these client based ones are true gems. It's neat to see that people are actually doing what the developpers should've been working on from the start. Let's face it, anything that isn't online or multiplayer tends to get boring as hell.

Personally I've been working on a little project of my own http://pokemon.ele-mentalfury.com/ it is a java based pokemon online game. It is nowhere near the site I linked above in terms of progress but I'm slowly working away at it. I hope to maybe one day make it somewhat playable and then just start tossing in screwed up concepts like poaching, theft and death. I'm a firm believer that the Pokemon ideals should be scaled to the audience that once chased them religiously.

Anyways, I hope this post doesn't get deleted. I did link to another site before my own and I did bring a valid topic to the table. To top it off I'll finish with this lovely query "What happens to us developers when the official Pokemon games surpass us in playability/concepts?". Hobby Developers versus the evil corporate mongrels who want to give us less content wrapped in a new dress.

Edit: 26 minutes after the message has been posted I notice how it sinks to the bottom without a hope. Pokemon is not the hot topic out there these days... sadly. Perhaps if I had said "God of Hot War Online Kicking Game Mod Store" or something it would've done better. Even "Hobby Game Developpers versus Comporate Wankers" woud've done better methinks.

Java-Based Pokemon Online - In Development
http://pokemon.ele-mentalfury.com/
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  • ScrumtrulescentScrumtrulescent Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    " There is a nice new pokemon game coming out in the near future with rumors that it will be similar to an MMO.
    "

    Is this an official game?

    Like, made by Nintendo and everything?

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  • SpeakeasySpeakeasy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    gad77 wrote: »
    Pokemon is not the hot topic out there these days... sadly.

    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=7272

    Well, there IS a 91 page thread on the subject. Granted, it's almost the same 10 people throughout the thread, but it's still popular among the average populous. I mean, Diamond and Pearl sold 1 million in it's first day in Japan. I would think that is somewhat successful.

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  • TylerXKJTylerXKJ __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2007
    If Nintendoe ever wants all of my money they would have to do is make a pokemon mmo.

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  • PolagoPolago Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    TylerXKJ wrote: »
    If Nintendoe ever wants all of my money they would have to do is make a pokemon mmo.

    They could charge $1 a month per pokemon that you have/catch, and make the end goal to simply catch them all. Almost $400 a month right there for the dedicated players, and a killing for nintendo. ;)

    Seriously though, if there is any property that would fit the MMO scheme, it's Pokemon.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I remember a funny photoshop of one of the game boy pokemon games as an MMO, with like 50 player sprites standing around the pokemon center spouting MMO babble. "LFG pewter gym" "WTT charz 4 ur blasts pst"

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  • slurpeepoopslurpeepoop Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    PolaGo wrote: »
    TylerXKJ wrote: »
    If Nintendoe ever wants all of my money they would have to do is make a pokemon mmo.

    They could charge $1 a month per pokemon that you have/catch, and make the end goal to simply catch them all. Almost $400 a month right there for the dedicated players, and a killing for nintendo. ;)

    Seriously though, if there is any property that would fit the MMO scheme, it's Pokemon.

    I think the "Nintendo" way of cashing in on a Pokemon MMO would be licensing, and not necessarily on the game itself.

    Don't get me wrong, half the world's population, including myself, would happily pay the $15 or however much is "standard" in MMOs nowadays, which that alone could give Nintendo all the money hats they'd ever want, but the real money would be in the licensing.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I don't think I'd pay a recurring fee for a Pokemon MMO.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Nintendo will never make a Pokemon MMO.

    Ever.

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  • slurpeepoopslurpeepoop Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I don't think I'd pay a recurring fee for a Pokemon MMO.

    Well duh, I said half the world, not uberdragons living on the moon.

    You couldn't play anyway. The moon's only wired for 56k.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I hope you can see this earthling, because I'm doing it as hard as I can.

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  • slurpeepoopslurpeepoop Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I hope you can see this earthling, because I'm doing it as hard as I can.

    Blowing kisses?

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    weak mooninite reference. meh.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    That progress you see on the Pokemon online website? Total bullshit. We had their "guy" come over here and try to pimp out the beta. It was nothing more than a crappy field with rented pokemon and everyone using the same sprite. Initiating battles were pains in the ass as well.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    That progress you see on the Pokemon online website? Total bullshit. We had their "guy" come over here and try to pimp out the beta. It was nothing more than a crappy field with rented pokemon and everyone using the same sprite. Initiating battles were pains in the ass as well.

    I checked that game out a while back when I was surfing NGemu and saw a banner for it. Very amateurish, and they're apparently using a game editor/scripter, which sorta reminds me of all the Playerworlds MMORPGs that flooded the internet a while back. The current half-assed state makes me think the guy's having a very hard time actually shoehorning it into doing what it has to do. I don't think it's going to get very much farther than it already has. (Edit: referring to the Pokemon Online game, not the java based on. First time I've heard of that)

    I have to admit - I'd play a good Pokemon MMO. I say this as a grown man with minimal shame. My complaint about the series is that the complexity of the system deserves a much larger scope than the games actually deliver. An MMO is one way to reach that scope, but I doubt Nintendo would go to that level. Based on what I've read about the DS games, the next step might be a Diablo II or Neverwinter Nights style, where people can take their characters into online sessions, but probably not a full blown MMO.

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  • gad77gad77 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    If Nintendo did decide to make a Pokemon MMO it would be sweet to be on the concepts team. But the game would probably end up like all the MMOs that aren't WoW (those who play WoW nod in silence while others get spastic 'nuh uh' they say). Personally I would love a pokemon rpg where you throw balls like grenades in halo and fight to the death over stuff and stuff, haha.

    Interestingly enough that POL game has a cult following of pre-teens. Who knows what might happen as the game progresses.

    P.S. Did any of you try my game?

    http://pokemon.ele-mentalfury.com/

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    Java-Based Pokemon Online - In Development
    http://pokemon.ele-mentalfury.com/
  • slurpeepoopslurpeepoop Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Wow.

    Two post history, both in this thread that he made, and both whore out his site.

    I'm gonna go with sitewhore for 500, Alex.



    Having said that, if you get a Pokemon MMO going, I'll be first in line to check it out.

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  • gad77gad77 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Hey Hey let's not get personal here. I am taking the time to discuss the issues.

    All that energy you used up telling me the evils of my whorish ways and you could've said 'no' or simply not replied.

    On another note the game is kinda going. It's in development and it runs like a raped ape.

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    Java-Based Pokemon Online - In Development
    http://pokemon.ele-mentalfury.com/
  • VicVic Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    gad77 wrote: »
    If Nintendo did decide to make a Pokemon MMO it would be sweet to be on the concepts team. But the game would probably end up like all the MMOs that aren't WoW (those who play WoW nod in silence while others get spastic 'nuh uh' they say). Personally I would love a pokemon rpg where you throw balls like grenades in halo and fight to the death over stuff and stuff, haha.

    Interestingly enough that POL game has a cult following of pre-teens. Who knows what might happen as the game progresses.

    P.S. Did any of you try my game?

    http://pokemon.ele-mentalfury.com/

    I tried it for a short while, didn't understand how to do anything. The road was blocked in all directions, movement was clunky, and there were no pokemon in the grass.

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  • gad77gad77 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah pretty much you can walk around and like get stuck in walls.

    I mean... uhm... you missed the uber secret passage to the 3d version of the game with hot babes running around everywhere (and they aren't just guys pretending to be hot babes [or at the very least they are hot guys pretending to be homely babes]).

    It's pretty good for just one person coding it and about like 40 hours put in over half a year. Why by 2020 it will be the hottest Java-based Pokemon online game on the market and with time travel it should actually be finished last week (hence the secret 3d version).

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    http://pokemon.ele-mentalfury.com/
  • VicVic Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    gad77 wrote: »
    Yeah pretty much you can walk around and like get stuck in walls.

    I mean... uhm... you missed the uber secret passage to the 3d version of the game with hot babes running around everywhere (and they aren't just guys pretending to be hot babes [or at the very least they are hot guys pretending to be homely babes]).

    It's pretty good for just one person coding it and about like 40 hours put in over half a year. Why by 2020 it will be the hottest Java-based Pokemon online game on the market and with time travel it should actually be finished last week (hence the secret 3d version).

    Someone posted a pokemon MMO recently, where all you could do was duel with borrowed pokemon, and the fighting system was not even really implemented. This seems even more pointless. I mean, if I programmed an RPG (I have done some work on that, once) I would at least try to include some of what the game is supposed to be about before I tried showing it off. Like the MMO, this does not really entice my interest.

    Just make like 10 pokemon, make the catching, leveling and battle systems work, and I will be amused for a couple of hours instead of dissapointed in five minutes.

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  • gad77gad77 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Well put.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I like how the OP paints Nintendo as some evil corporate masters, whereas he's the one taking their IP and making his own game. I'll ask the same thing I asked the last time a thread like this came up: Why not just make your own game, based on your own IP? That way you don't have to be shackled by the threat of possible litigation, or even limited by their own established gameplay paradigms?

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  • VicVic Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Sorry about being a bitch :P

    I enjoyed my second playthrough more than my first, and found the second guy you can talk to. The story really pulled me in.

    Can you make the walking more responsive? I feel that when I run around in circles for fun, it takes me a second to get up to speed each time I change directions.

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  • gad77gad77 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I have already coded that movement change so it doesn't make movement so choppy. In the process of getting that done I broke the executable, haha so I have to fix that before I can post it all up.

    The saving grace of the game might end up being an original story and entertaining gameplay, but it is a ways away yet.

    @SageinaRage: I am not concerned in the least about getting sued by Nintendo or any other organization. This is purely an educational tool for myself and if anything it makes more people appreciate the Pokemon franchise.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Nintendo doesn't really seem to give two shits about people making non-commercial pokemon games on the interwebs, as long as it doesn't use actual content from their games. I was thinking about making a pokemon game for a little bit, so I did a fuckton of research on this.

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  • gad77gad77 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I haven't heard of anyone getting shut down for using Pokemon content in their web game. But then again I haven't been looking too hard.

    As long as you're not making any money and not doing damage to the franchise it really shouldn't matter right?

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    Java-Based Pokemon Online - In Development
    http://pokemon.ele-mentalfury.com/
  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    gad77 wrote: »
    I haven't heard of anyone getting shut down for using Pokemon content in their web game. But then again I haven't been looking too hard.

    As long as you're not making any money and not doing damage to the franchise it really shouldn't matter right?

    This question is usually followed by a sudden Cease and Desist letter a week later.

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    weak mooninite reference. meh.
    Really late, but I got the reference if it makes you feel better.

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  • Skelly BSkelly B Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I would rather an evil corporation make a true pokemon MMO.

    It's not going to happen though. Their target audience is kids and nintendo really seems to be freaked out about internet safety. Also, those kids would get their faces stomped off by all the older gamers that want to relieve the fun they had with the original games. Even if they did make it I would probably get annoyed by the presence any pokemon with a number over 151.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Skelly B wrote: »
    I would rather an evil corporation make a true pokemon MMO.

    It's not going to happen though. Their target audience is kids and nintendo really seems to be freaked out about internet safety. Also, those kids would get their faces stomped off by all the older gamers that want to relieve the fun they had with the original games. Even if they did make it I would probably get annoyed by the presence any pokemon with a number over 151.

    Nintendo is freaked out about internet safety because parents are freaked out about internet safety. The last thing they or any other corporation wants when dealing with online is some parent suing them because their child met an abductor through something of theirs.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    SirToasty wrote: »
    weak mooninite reference. meh.
    Really late, but I got the reference if it makes you feel better.
    It does make me feel better! :o

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