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[SimCity] Offline mode is here, just gotta connect online to get the patch first.

jdarksunjdarksun StrugglerCORegistered User regular
edited March 2014 in Games and Technology
SimCity has had a seriously rocky launch, but is it ready now?
Answer here!



SimCity? What's that?
This game is the latest in a series of city management games that date back to 1989 (yes, the franchise is 24 years old). The original was created by Will Wright, a man whose name is virtually synonymous with sim games (SimCity (1989), SimEarth, SimAnt, SimLife, The Sims, and Spore were all him).

SimCity (2013) claims to be the most expansive city management game yet, with your decisions not only impacting the city you're working on (and all of its citizens), but all the cities in the region as well. And those cities can effect yours, too!

Multiplayer?
As a new addition to the series, SimCity has added the ability to invite other players to manage the cities in your region. Regions can support up to 16 city plots - so you could play with 15 of your closest internet friends. Interested? Sign up to play with us! The multiplayer isn't twitched-based or anything, so don't stress about latency or lag or whatever. It lets you cooperatively build cities with other players in the region, sharing power or pollution or police forces or whatever.

I heard there was draconian DRM.
SimCity is Origin-only, and requires you to be connected to their service in order to play. So the short answer is: "Yes". The longer answer is: "SimCity is a live service that simulates real time updates from new challenges to new features and content." The devs also claim that a lot of simulation stuff is being handled "by the cloud", and there's a lot being simulated. It's possible.

What can I do with this game?
Generalize or specialize. From the web site:
For the first time, create truly unique cities with different specializations. Mayors seeking intelligent Sims can build a college town full of libraries, community colleges and universities. Specialize in Big Business such as Casinos, Electronics, Coal, Trade, and more to increase the wealth of your city. Each specialization has major benefits but consequences as well. Educated Sims unlock technologies that will benefit your region, but large universities are expensive to maintain. Casinos will bring tourism and raise Simoleons but also attract unwanted crime.
You can also visit disasters upon your citizens. Aliens, earthquakes, giant monsters, meteors, tornadoes, and introducing - zombies!

I want to watch people play the game!
Good news! They're streaming live play every day until release. Go watch, vote on events to happen, participate via Twitter and get the city named after you or get your initials carved into the city.

Previous streams:
Day 1 - Disaster City
Day 2 - Casino City
Day 3 - Going Green
Day 4 - City in the Shape of (a Simolean)
Day 5 - Burn Some Coal
Day 6 - City on the Brink
Day 7 - 4 Cities in 4 Hours

Penny Arcade Forum Multiplayer Links
* Wanna play in a PA Forums region? Sign up here!
* Already assigned a region, and looking for Origin names? Check out the Assignments spreadsheet!

Tips and Tricks
* A bunch of helpful infographics
* A Guide to Laying Down Roads
* A document full of tips from the "Let's All Be Mayor!" live streams
* Trying to figure out the ideal tax rate? Here you go! 8-12% / 7-11% / 6-10%
* Wondering how the game works under the covers?
* Traffic and population info
* Parks provide income
* Curious about streetcars?
* "Phantom" population
* Do Sims really have homes? Do Sims even exist?

Forged by Ocean and Stone, blessed by Will Wright. Multi-city, Multi-player!

Forged by Ocean and Stone? WTF?
SimCity (2013) was designed by Ocean Quigley and Stone Librande. Their names are awesome.

Blessed by Will Wright?
Yeah, he loves the new game. Check it out:
Free game?
Yeah, launch has been butts, so Maxis/EA is offering SimCity players a free game.
Here is the list of games that you will be able to choose from once you are able to redeem. It’s a great list of games across the whole EA portfolio, so pick one and add it to your Origin library on us!

Battlefield 3 (Standard Edition)
Bejeweled 3
Dead Space 3 (Standard Edition)
Mass Effect 3 (Standard Edition)
Medal of Honor Warfighter (Standard Edition)
Need For Speed Most Wanted (Standard Edition)
Plants vs. Zombies
SimCity 4 Deluxe Edition
The free games will be rolled out towards the end of the week.
When can I start to get my free game?
The free game portal will be rolling out in waves, and it will be available in the following regions by these dates:
North America by 5pm PST/midnight GMT on Wednesday, March 20.
Europe by 5pm PST/midnight GMT on Thursday, March 21.
Asia & South America by 5pm PST/midnight GMT on Friday, March 22.


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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3536634&pagenumber=163&perpage=40#post413350310
    For medium wealth and high wealth sims, the optimum tax rate is respectively 11 percent and 10 percent.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    What exactly does "EA Portfolio" mean? Can I get Crysis 3 for free because I bought Sim City?

  • MiniwolfMiniwolf Probably somewhere sniffing somethingRegistered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Ok, so I have found that growing a city slowly, not placing bunches of residential zones as a slowly build up bus routes and trains seems to be the best course of events in order to avoid that traffic meltdown at 70k people. Its much slower, however its going strong at 100k population and 11% taxes.

    I am still confused by the whole 'I have 100k population but only 9k of them work and some of my industrial companies keep asking for more workers.'

    It also seems that with an expo center, you can only have a max of 1500 of each level of wealth attending the event. So in order to get 3000 people you need 1500 low income and 1500 medium income or a mixture of them all.

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  • EvigilantEvigilant VARegistered User regular
    So now my launcher refuses to run. I see the process load up, get to about 144,989 K of memory then close out on it's own.

    I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game, uninstalling and reinstalling origin but to no avail. I tried repair and nadda.

    So now the entire thing is just unplayable. Fantastic.

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    This new thread has too much crime!

  • ShimazuShimazu Registered User regular
    Just started an Arcology on Delta #4, going to need an electronics specialist to complete it, but I'm going to decimate my own city to make room for a couple more smelters to get the metal requirements completed.

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  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    What exactly does "EA Portfolio" mean? Can I get Crysis 3 for free because I bought Sim City?

    No details on it yet.

  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    What exactly does "EA Portfolio" mean? Can I get Crysis 3 for free because I bought Sim City?
    We don't know yet.

  • HullabalooHullabaloo Registered User regular
    Shimazu wrote: »
    Just started an Arcology on Delta #4, going to need an electronics specialist to complete it, but I'm going to decimate my own city to make room for a couple more smelters to get the metal requirements completed.

    Well i was keen on starting up a renewable city, so I might make it a university/electronics focused city.

    Also, apparently I need a formal invite to get in to Delta 4 - unless i'm doing it wrong.

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  • wiltingwilting I had fun once and it was awful Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    I feel bad every time I learn something new on here that I could or should have figured out myself.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Do they have an announced patch schedule? Even with the servers still somewhat working stably, I'm too frustrated by some of the bugs I've encountered (recycling bug, train bug, traffic bugs) to try to play it yet. Have they announced a big fix patch yet?

    What is this I don't even.
  • BeenieWeenieBeenieWeenie So Delicious So NutritiousRegistered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    What exactly does "EA Portfolio" mean? Can I get Crysis 3 for free because I bought Sim City?

    This is purely a guess, but if they follow their previous promotions they won't include new releases in the list of games you get for free.
    Again, purely a guess based off of what I've seen in the past.

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  • ShimazuShimazu Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    If you log on Antarctica I might be able to invite you Hullabaloo, or you might be able to click on me in your friends list and join. Don't feel that you need to go electronics, it'll only take one, and there's not exactly a rush on getting this great work finished. ;P

    I just bulldozed 40k population worth of residential and the remainder of my industrial to plop down four more smelters. Upwind of my high wealth, high density residential. This is going to end well. =]

    Please tell me great works aren't bugged... I've got twenty metal trucks that have gone to the arcology, but they just stay there and it doesn't show any progress on the metal bar. =[

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  • HullabalooHullabaloo Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Shimazu wrote: »
    If you log on Antarctica I might be able to invite you Hullabaloo, or you might be able to click on me in your friends list and join. Don't feel that you need to go electronics, it'll only take one, and there's not exactly a rush on getting this great work finished. ;P

    I just bulldozed 40k population worth of residential and the remainder of my industrial to plop down four more smelters. Upwind of my high wealth, high density residential. This is going to end well. =]

    I'm online right now, and it's no problem. The last city I built was smogtacular so I'm keen to try something that's as carbon neutral as possible.

    Edit: Clicking you and trying to join appears not to work. Claims I need to be invited.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Can someone invite me to a region? I don't care which.

  • MiniwolfMiniwolf Probably somewhere sniffing somethingRegistered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Do they have an announced patch schedule? Even with the servers still somewhat working stably, I'm too frustrated by some of the bugs I've encountered (recycling bug, train bug, traffic bugs) to try to play it yet. Have they announced a big fix patch yet?

    'As soon as its ready' - Seems to be the current patch cycle. They are patching daily right now. However its mainly fixes to crashes and updating servers, with a few tweaks here and there. They haven't announced an actual patch scheduled or a ETA on bug fixes. Mostly because they don't likely want more things for people to attack.

    This is what will happen if they do:

    Action: They show a list of things they're working on with an rough ETA

    Community Action:

    - "WHY ISN'T X ON THE LIST, THIS IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT THAN Y!!!!!"

    - "THAT IS TOO LONG!!111 THAT IS AN EASY FIX! I AM A 14 YEAR OLD WITH ZERO UNDERSTANDING OF HOW COMPLEX A GAME ENGINE IS BUT FEEL I COULD DO A BETTER JOB THEN YOU!"

    - "THIS GAME IS BROKEN WHY ARE YOU NOT PATCHING DAILY!!!!!"

    and god help them if they're working on something but it takes longer and they make a smaller patch. Then people just say they were lying. Eventually they'll get the bugs fixed. For now most of us are enjoying the game and working around the traffic issues and casino bugs.

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  • ShimazuShimazu Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Ah, crap, I think only KiTA can invite to this one (I didn't see any option in my friends list). If you want to fire up another region in the meantime I'll join you there. :P

    Nevermind, I am functionally retarded. Invite sent from region view!

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  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    Do they have customizable airports on this game? Or did they ever make SimAirport? I'd like that.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    Are we gonna re-do Veridian Woods #2 'Underwood'? I'd like to get in on whatever comes next.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Shimazu wrote: »
    Ah, crap, I think only KiTA can invite to this one (I didn't see any option in my friends list). If you want to fire up another region in the meantime I'll join you there. :P

    You should be able to invite from the region view. Just click on an unclaimed spot (doesn't matter which one) and one of the options next to "Claim city" is "Invite friends"

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    Shimazu wrote: »
    Ah, crap, I think only KiTA can invite to this one (I didn't see any option in my friends list). If you want to fire up another region in the meantime I'll join you there. :P
    It isn't on your friend's list, it's on the region overview.

  • HullabalooHullabaloo Registered User regular
    Shimazu wrote: »
    Ah, crap, I think only KiTA can invite to this one (I didn't see any option in my friends list). If you want to fire up another region in the meantime I'll join you there. :P

    You should be able to invite from the region view. Just click on an unclaimed spot (doesn't matter which one) and one of the options next to "Claim city" is "Invite friends"

    That did it, thanks both of you.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    Shimazu wrote: »
    I think if I try a resource town ever again, I'm going to do a ridiculous utilitarian design where there is nothing but specialization buildings and residential. Screw shoppers, screw tourists, and screw freight. Keep the roads clear for trade and resource trucks.

    Then again, if I had functional rail trade, I'd probably whine less. Also, if I could figure out how exactly to make a dock at a trade port. Does the trade port structure actually have to be right on the shoreline? I figured I'd be able to extend structures out to the water and then make a dock. Doesn't seem to be the case.

    Be aware that specialization buildings have requirements such as "7 industrial buildings" or "5 tech industrial buildings" etc...
    Also, with current region play being wonky, your residents are going to complain about no places to shop.

    @jdarksun I can't add you to my friend's list because it says you are already at maximum.

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User, Transition Team regular
    So how do you solve the issue of having unclaimed jobs and unemployed Sims?

  • RobesRobes Registered User regular
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    Shimazu wrote: »
    I think if I try a resource town ever again, I'm going to do a ridiculous utilitarian design where there is nothing but specialization buildings and residential. Screw shoppers, screw tourists, and screw freight. Keep the roads clear for trade and resource trucks.

    Then again, if I had functional rail trade, I'd probably whine less. Also, if I could figure out how exactly to make a dock at a trade port. Does the trade port structure actually have to be right on the shoreline? I figured I'd be able to extend structures out to the water and then make a dock. Doesn't seem to be the case.

    Be aware that specialization buildings have requirements such as "7 industrial buildings" or "5 tech industrial buildings" etc...
    Also, with current region play being wonky, your residents are going to complain about no places to shop.

    jdarksun I can't add you to my friend's list because it says you are already at maximum.

    You can get away with no shops by just lower taxes. The low wealth class is pretty lenient and forgiving. Easy to exploit too.

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    @jdarksun I can't add you to my friend's list because it says you are already at maximum.
    I know, I hate Origin's friend list with a burning passion. I'll purge another 20 people off the bottom.

  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    I guess it's ok to have some unemployment and unclaimed jobs. It's probably people not wanting to commute that far? No idea, I wish this game had the "Show commute" option that was in Rush Hour.

    @infinity56 Hey, who started the region we're playing in? We should invite more people, I'm alone in my corner of the region :(

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    So how do you solve the issue of having unclaimed jobs and unemployed Sims?
    Sims will only work jobs they're qualified for. Click the population tab to see which group of sims need work.

    Chances are, you don't have enough low wealth sims for your number of low tech factories and too many mid- and high wealth sims.

  • ShimazuShimazu Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    So I bulldozed that 40k population worth of residential, a chunk of the commercial, I had massive sewage overflows from an oversight, and my air polution looks like China...

    My population has grown back by 30k. Seems like so long as you have no unemployment and good service coverage, your sims will forgive anything.

    Not sure what is wrong with the arcology building, but my resource trucks drove there and stayed there, just about bankrupting me as my supply line broke down and trade came to a stop. Had to put a hold on it for now. With emergency bonds, I came within an hour of a failed city.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    So how do you solve the issue of having unclaimed jobs and unemployed Sims?
    Sims will only work jobs they're qualified for. Click the population tab to see which group of sims need work.

    Chances are, you don't have enough low wealth sims for your number of low tech factories and too many mid- and high wealth sims.

    It also may be that they are having trouble getting to the job opportunities in a timely fashion. They will ideally move into residence close to the job but if that residence is crappier than others they will move into the one to their liking.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    http://i.imgur.com/adfX7ph.jpg
    Here is the overhead view of my city. Is there anything I can do to reduce the traffic coming in?

    http://i.imgur.com/YA8Yu3D.jpg
    I'm not sure how this happened.

  • RavelleRavelle Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    What's the deal with people not getting enrolled while there are more than enough schools and bus stops?

    It's also a shame I can't just dump parks in the middle of a lot but instead am forced to snap it on to a road sacrificing homes and precious space.

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  • MiniwolfMiniwolf Probably somewhere sniffing somethingRegistered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Couscous wrote: »
    http://i.imgur.com/adfX7ph.jpg
    Here is the overhead view of my city. Is there anything I can do to reduce the traffic coming in?

    http://i.imgur.com/YA8Yu3D.jpg
    I'm not sure how this happened.

    A train station + municiple bus station did it for me. I have over 4k commuters from other cities in daily via the train and about 3k from buses from other cities and has lessened the strain on the roads.

    I have about 80% of my city using public transport. However I have 9k an hour in public transportation going.

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    Ravelle wrote: »
    What's the deal with people not getting enrolled while there are more than enough schools and bus stops?

    It's also a shame I can't just dump parks in the middle of a lot but instead am forced to snap it on to a road sacrificing homes and precious space.

    I had a problem in one city where it didn't seem like my school buses would cross an avenue. Is that a thing?

  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    http://i.imgur.com/adfX7ph.jpg
    Here is the overhead view of my city. Is there anything I can do to reduce the traffic coming in?

    http://i.imgur.com/YA8Yu3D.jpg
    I'm not sure how this happened.

    Give them other ways to get to your city other than the road. Also place a park and ride at the entrance to the city (not sure if the bus depot itself works as well for that, but the buses themselves might create major traffic with it that close to the entrance)

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    http://i.imgur.com/adfX7ph.jpg
    Here is the overhead view of my city. Is there anything I can do to reduce the traffic coming in?
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    1. You've got an intersection coming right off the highway. This will back up traffic.
    2. You've got a bunch of pointless intersections. You could turn those into 90deg curves instead.

  • BillGatesBillGates Registered User regular
    Get rid of that intersection right in front of the highway, that is your biggest problem right there.

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  • scherbchenscherbchen Asgard (it is dead)Registered User regular
    "your city is not processing properly". 3rd time in a row. rollback or abandon are the choices, what the hell.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    It is just the highway that is the problem. My city is mostly fine because of the decent amount of non-low wealth buildings.

    All the jobs are on the right side while everything else is residential with a smattering of commercial. Removing the intersection will cause problems for the sims on the left. The population might be low enough to allow for it though.

    I will need to check and see if the neighboring cities in the region are also connected by rail or if that will just give me extra sims.

  • GrimmyTOAGrimmyTOA Registered User regular
    scherbchen wrote: »
    "your city is not processing properly". 3rd time in a row. rollback or abandon are the choices, what the hell.

    Yeah, sometimes they seem to get caught in a rollback loop or something, and then you're in trouble.

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