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"Eat the pennies." [The Venture Bros.] Thread

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    I actually think the space station episode is one of the standouts from season 1. I guess I'm just crazy.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Ticaldfjam wrote: »
    Yes, i am also a dirty philistine for missing the "Guess who's COMING to State Dinner" part in my prior post.

    Also, does Jonas Jr. AKA JJ rub anyone the wrong way when he talks condescending to others below him, Rusty included? He'd be an excellent billion.

    Hes an ass yeah.

    Fun fact all his acheivments are things Rusty could do if he applied himself.
    Since they were basically the same person until he got out his knowledge is based entirely on what Rusty knows

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  • BlindPsychicBlindPsychic Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    I think if they had an hour they could've pulled off What Goes Up


    Generally the show always has great moments, but sometimes plots are movie length stories crammed into 20 minutes. Sometimes it works, (like in VEN) other times it doesn't.

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    Since they were basically the same person until he got out his knowledge is based entirely on what Rusty knows

    I've never even thought about that.

    Honestly that's pretty god damn depressing.

  • NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    I actually really liked the Space Station episode. Watching that one and Ghosts of Sargasso were what originally hooked my wife and I on the series.

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Ticaldfjam wrote: »
    Yes, i am also a dirty philistine for missing the "Guess who's COMING to State Dinner" part in my prior post.

    Also, does Jonas Jr. AKA JJ rub anyone the wrong way when he talks condescending to others below him, Rusty included? He'd be an excellent billion.

    JJ is basically Jonas Sr in a smaller package. He's a brillant pedantic prick who acts nice

  • TK-42-1TK-42-1 Registered User regular
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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    Ticaldfjam wrote: »
    Yes, i am also a dirty philistine for missing the "Guess who's COMING to State Dinner" part in my prior post.

    Also, does Jonas Jr. AKA JJ rub anyone the wrong way when he talks condescending to others below him, Rusty included? He'd be an excellent billion.

    JJ is basically Jonas Sr in a smaller package. He's a brillant pedantic prick who acts nice

    Except JJ isn't half as fun as Jonas Sr.

  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    I actually think the space station episode is one of the standouts from season 1. I guess I'm just crazy.

    Careers in Science is one of my favorite episodes from season one. It'd be my favorite if it wasn't for the one where Orpheus is introduced.
    "No, I started it, years ago, in a moment of passion! And I'll end it the same way right here in front of Brock, HELPeR, and God!"

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  • TK-42-1TK-42-1 Registered User regular
    the whole "It's on!" "It's off!" "It's on!" "It's off!" - "That's called blinking, boys." is what made my wife start to appreciate the show

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  • TicaldfjamTicaldfjam Snoqualmie, WARegistered User regular
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    "I'm trapped with a confessed arsonist, Brock."

    What goes down had a lot of great moments but it does kind of feel like it's missing something to bring it all together. That's the first ep that shows how fucked up Jonas was in the 60's, no?

    God, that episode was AMAZING!

  • WordherderWordherder Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    Ticaldfjam wrote: »
    Yes, i am also a dirty philistine for missing the "Guess who's COMING to State Dinner" part in my prior post.

    Also, does Jonas Jr. AKA JJ rub anyone the wrong way when he talks condescending to others below him, Rusty included? He'd be an excellent billion.

    JJ is basically Jonas Sr in a smaller package. He's a brillant pedantic prick who acts nice

    Except JJ isn't half as fun as Jonas Sr.

    Right. Jonas has charm, JJ has irritating smarm. But both are asses not far under the surface.

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  • Blackbird SR-71CBlackbird SR-71C Registered User regular
    Ticaldfjam wrote: »
    Yes, i am also a dirty philistine for missing the "Guess who's COMING to State Dinner" part in my prior post.

    Also, does Jonas Jr. AKA JJ rub anyone the wrong way when he talks condescending to others below him, Rusty included? He'd be an excellent billion.

    Hes an ass yeah.

    Fun fact all his acheivments are things Rusty could do if he applied himself.
    Since they were basically the same person until he got out his knowledge is based entirely on what Rusty knows

    I disagree.
    Sure, JJ would've ended up with the same magnetic shield at the end, but with less...mutants. He even states that testing it on earth is insane, of course, Rusty didn't know.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2013
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    Ticaldfjam wrote: »
    Yes, i am also a dirty philistine for missing the "Guess who's COMING to State Dinner" part in my prior post.

    Also, does Jonas Jr. AKA JJ rub anyone the wrong way when he talks condescending to others below him, Rusty included? He'd be an excellent billion.

    JJ is basically Jonas Sr in a smaller package. He's a brillant pedantic prick who acts nice

    Except JJ isn't half as fun as Jonas Sr.

    Right. Jonas has charm, JJ has irritating smarm. But both are asses not far under the surface.

    Ironically, I think JJ may actually be a decent guy underneath the arrogance and smugness in a way his father wasn't. He can be thoughtless and full of himself, but probably wouldn't abandon an orphanage full of hallucinating children in his underground bunker and cover it up for thirty years to preserve his own image.
    Ticaldfjam wrote: »
    Yes, i am also a dirty philistine for missing the "Guess who's COMING to State Dinner" part in my prior post.

    Also, does Jonas Jr. AKA JJ rub anyone the wrong way when he talks condescending to others below him, Rusty included? He'd be an excellent billion.

    Hes an ass yeah.

    Fun fact all his acheivments are things Rusty could do if he applied himself.
    Since they were basically the same person until he got out his knowledge is based entirely on what Rusty knows

    I disagree.
    Sure, JJ would've ended up with the same magnetic shield at the end, but with less...mutants. He even states that testing it on earth is insane, of course, Rusty didn't know.

    That's post-separation though. JJ's been learning and improving himself the second he got out - didn't he get a bunch of doctorates like 2 months after he was 'born'? The point is that Rusty could be as brilliant as JJ if he gave the effort.

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  • CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    Don't forget, JJ was able to ride out a severely traumatic childhood safely inside of Rusty.

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  • HambrabaiHambrabai Registered User regular
    Cokomon wrote: »
    Don't forget, JJ was able to ride out a severely traumatic childhood safely inside of Rusty.

    All JJ knows about Jonas is what he can read about and the occasional flashes of whatever he must have got while inside Rusty. So JJ probably assumes Jonas wasn't half bad and puts on a similar act, without knowing the years of torture (sometimes literal) that Rusty had to deal with.

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Hah. Re-watching Tag Sale You're It, Billy says that his mom refers to him as her little water baby thanks to his excess cranial fluid while trying to goad Dr. Girlfriend into arching him and White. How do they keep track of all the references? Is there, like, a master spreadsheet somewhere.

  • UEAKCrashUEAKCrash heh Registered User regular
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    "I'm trapped with a confessed arsonist, Brock."

    This is the first episode I ever saw of this show and I was hooked from that moment on.

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    the double date was one of the show's best eps ever!

    VEN was my favorite until Everybody Comes to Hanks but in my fifth season rewatch I learned it was a great episode for seeing how the creators have improved.

    Don't get me wrong that episode is funny as shit but Orpheous's "This is what the episode is about" speech is painfully awkward exposition and they have done a great job in improving on the technical side of their writing.

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  • Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    I actually think the space station episode is one of the standouts from season 1. I guess I'm just crazy.

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  • PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Hambrabai wrote: »
    Cokomon wrote: »
    Don't forget, JJ was able to ride out a severely traumatic childhood safely inside of Rusty.

    All JJ knows about Jonas is what he can read about and the occasional flashes of whatever he must have got while inside Rusty. So JJ probably assumes Jonas wasn't half bad and puts on a similar act, without knowing the years of torture (sometimes literal) that Rusty had to deal with.

    Halloween episode spoiler...
    There's also a very subtle hint in the Halloween episode that Rusty is a clone and Jonas a side effect. If that's the case, Jonas wasn't around for all the fun.

  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    I actually think the space station episode is one of the standouts from season 1. I guess I'm just crazy.

    It's very...generously paced. The first time I watched it I found it interminable. I like it a lot better now, but there's a lot of dead air and pregnant pauses (as was pretty much the norm for Adult Swim cartoons back then).

    I think Venture Bros. found its voice once the guys started cramming as much as possible into the twenty minutes and relying less on the audience to fill in their own laughs.

  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    Ticaldfjam wrote: »
    Yes, i am also a dirty philistine for missing the "Guess who's COMING to State Dinner" part in my prior post.

    Also, does Jonas Jr. AKA JJ rub anyone the wrong way when he talks condescending to others below him, Rusty included? He'd be an excellent billion.

    JJ is basically Jonas Sr in a smaller package. He's a brillant pedantic prick who acts nice

    Except JJ isn't half as fun as Jonas Sr.

    Right. Jonas has charm, JJ has irritating smarm. But both are asses not far under the surface.

    I don't think so. Someone being a bit smug and superior really isn't anywhere in the same ballpark as child endangerment, hooking your employees on drugs, or locking a herd of children in a vault for thirty years.

    JJ also has surrounded himself with a coterie of freaks and outsiders who he genuinely tries to do right by, even if he's kind of socially clueless.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Yea JJ is a "heart is in the right place" kind of guy, and I can forgive a guy a few social faux pas after living inside your brother as a parasitic entity during your formative years.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Or, for that matter, consider the Monarch. Everyone loves the Monarch. But how many people have we seen him callously murder over the course of the show? How many prostitutes didn't make it through the lake of acid?

    (The show kind of tries to have it both ways with those things, because the humor is soap-bubble delicate; they want us to laugh at the Monarch's comedy antics, like accidentally massacring his accountant's office, but if they dwelt on it too long he wouldn't really be very likable.)

    ANYWAY. The point is, JJ exists mainly as a character who gives Rusty. who used to be mostly oblivious to his own shortcomings, someone to compete with and be humiliated by. That's his function in the show, and we're supposed to kind of find him irritating as a result, but it's overreaching to suggest that he's a bad person.

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    I actually think the space station episode is one of the standouts from season 1. I guess I'm just crazy.

    "Sharkey's Machiiiiiine...."

    Okay admittedly that was an awesome moment and line read. :^:

  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    the only episode I can think of that I actively dislike on some level is guess who's coming to state dinner.

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  • Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    edited August 2013
    What was the episode where the Master appeared to Orpheus as Cerberus? That was pure gold. H. Jon Benjamin could make my sides ache just reading the Shipping Forecast, he absolutely kills it when the script is that good.

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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    "I am sitting on what is easily the ass of a teenager."

  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    What was the episode where the Master appeared to Orpheus as Cerberus? That was pure gold. H. Jon Benjamin could make my sides ache just reading the Shipping Forecast, he absolutely kills it when the script is that good.

    That was the one where they were trying to shrink each other, right? To prove which was better, science or magic. Yeah, that has some of my all-time favorite scenes:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWuqUCfEfug

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ZEtSTUMgg

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    I'm still on my rewatch, and I have to say "Dr. Quym, Medicine Woman" is the single episode that bugs me more than any other episode. It's not bad, but it makes a more serious mistake than the bad episodes do and it bugs me.

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    "Looks like I found my cure for impotence afterall! Now if I can just find a way to bottle that ass..."

    Again. Rusty is my favorite character.

  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    He's great! But he deserves to catch a break, and Dr. Quym seems like a perfect fit. Especially since he can find out she's his half-sister and have his dad ruin another good thing about his life.

  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    Tag sale was probably the worst when watching through the first time. But when I watch it again, it is just the greatest.

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    Depeeeeeche Moooooode

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    I love the commentary from that episode so much.

    "Uh oh, sun's goin' down! Let me put on my brown eye-patch."
    "Great! I'll, uh, put on my off-white outfit, we'll be perfect!"

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    I'm slowly building up a memorization lines from this damn show.

    "I can't find Africa-America anywhere on this map!"

  • CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    So is the Venture clan ever going to get to visit Gargantua 2? They've been teasing the place for two seasons now.

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