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"Eat the pennies." [The Venture Bros.] Thread
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Hes an ass yeah.
Fun fact all his acheivments are things Rusty could do if he applied himself.
Since they were basically the same person until he got out his knowledge is based entirely on what Rusty knows
Generally the show always has great moments, but sometimes plots are movie length stories crammed into 20 minutes. Sometimes it works, (like in VEN) other times it doesn't.
I've never even thought about that.
Honestly that's pretty god damn depressing.
JJ is basically Jonas Sr in a smaller package. He's a brillant pedantic prick who acts nice
Except JJ isn't half as fun as Jonas Sr.
Careers in Science is one of my favorite episodes from season one. It'd be my favorite if it wasn't for the one where Orpheus is introduced.
God, that episode was AMAZING!
Right. Jonas has charm, JJ has irritating smarm. But both are asses not far under the surface.
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I disagree.
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Ironically, I think JJ may actually be a decent guy underneath the arrogance and smugness in a way his father wasn't. He can be thoughtless and full of himself, but probably wouldn't abandon an orphanage full of hallucinating children in his underground bunker and cover it up for thirty years to preserve his own image.
That's post-separation though. JJ's been learning and improving himself the second he got out - didn't he get a bunch of doctorates like 2 months after he was 'born'? The point is that Rusty could be as brilliant as JJ if he gave the effort.
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All JJ knows about Jonas is what he can read about and the occasional flashes of whatever he must have got while inside Rusty. So JJ probably assumes Jonas wasn't half bad and puts on a similar act, without knowing the years of torture (sometimes literal) that Rusty had to deal with.
This is the first episode I ever saw of this show and I was hooked from that moment on.
VEN was my favorite until Everybody Comes to Hanks but in my fifth season rewatch I learned it was a great episode for seeing how the creators have improved.
Don't get me wrong that episode is funny as shit but Orpheous's "This is what the episode is about" speech is painfully awkward exposition and they have done a great job in improving on the technical side of their writing.
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It's very...generously paced. The first time I watched it I found it interminable. I like it a lot better now, but there's a lot of dead air and pregnant pauses (as was pretty much the norm for Adult Swim cartoons back then).
I think Venture Bros. found its voice once the guys started cramming as much as possible into the twenty minutes and relying less on the audience to fill in their own laughs.
I don't think so. Someone being a bit smug and superior really isn't anywhere in the same ballpark as child endangerment, hooking your employees on drugs, or locking a herd of children in a vault for thirty years.
JJ also has surrounded himself with a coterie of freaks and outsiders who he genuinely tries to do right by, even if he's kind of socially clueless.
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(The show kind of tries to have it both ways with those things, because the humor is soap-bubble delicate; they want us to laugh at the Monarch's comedy antics, like accidentally massacring his accountant's office, but if they dwelt on it too long he wouldn't really be very likable.)
ANYWAY. The point is, JJ exists mainly as a character who gives Rusty. who used to be mostly oblivious to his own shortcomings, someone to compete with and be humiliated by. That's his function in the show, and we're supposed to kind of find him irritating as a result, but it's overreaching to suggest that he's a bad person.
Okay admittedly that was an awesome moment and line read. :^:
That was the one where they were trying to shrink each other, right? To prove which was better, science or magic. Yeah, that has some of my all-time favorite scenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWuqUCfEfug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ZEtSTUMgg
Again. Rusty is my favorite character.
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