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Cartoon Debate thread 1# "Is it cheating?"
Matthew
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Welcome to the first of my "Cartoon Debate Thread's!" Where we take a subject from a cartoon (any cartoon) and put it up for debate.
#1 Debate.
"Jem and the Holograms."
Many of us know this show, and many of us know the central plot element. Jerrica Benton, a down on her luck owner of both a struggling music business, and an orphanage for girls, uses Synergy, her father's powerful computer, to become Jem, Pop sensation. She tours with her band the Holograms, around the world, having adventures, and raising money for her orphanage. All the while fending off their rival bands, the Misfits and the Stingers.
The debate topic? Jem/Jerrica's relationship with her boyfriend/road manager. He is involved with Jerrica pretty much from the start, but he, like many other people in the world, has no idea that Jerrica and Jem are the same person. Jerrica, while in the guise of Jem, often attempts to continue to act as his girlfriend, and get him to go out with her. While this does not appear to be troublesome, remember that she is doing as Jem! Since Rio has no idea that his girlfriend and the girl who keeps basically throwing herself at him is the same girl, Rio is basically being pushed into a relationship with another girl.
But at the same time Jerrica continues to apparently push cheating onto him, seemingly inviting this sort of thing into her life (which is often troublesome enough as it is). It can be argued that whatever happens to her, whatever heartbreak she may go through, she practically invited into her life (and may in fact deserve). She could solve all this by telling her boyfriend the truth about Jem, but Rio is known to take things very seriously, and that includes a pathological hatred of liars (the possibility of him accusing her of using him as a toy is very high).
So the question we have to ask is this
Jem-Jerrica-Rio. Is it cheating and what can possibly be done about it?
Character bios here
http://jem.wikia.com/wiki/Rio_Pacheco
http://jem.wikia.com/wiki/Jerrica_Benton
#1 Debate.
"Jem and the Holograms."
Many of us know this show, and many of us know the central plot element. Jerrica Benton, a down on her luck owner of both a struggling music business, and an orphanage for girls, uses Synergy, her father's powerful computer, to become Jem, Pop sensation. She tours with her band the Holograms, around the world, having adventures, and raising money for her orphanage. All the while fending off their rival bands, the Misfits and the Stingers.
The debate topic? Jem/Jerrica's relationship with her boyfriend/road manager. He is involved with Jerrica pretty much from the start, but he, like many other people in the world, has no idea that Jerrica and Jem are the same person. Jerrica, while in the guise of Jem, often attempts to continue to act as his girlfriend, and get him to go out with her. While this does not appear to be troublesome, remember that she is doing as Jem! Since Rio has no idea that his girlfriend and the girl who keeps basically throwing herself at him is the same girl, Rio is basically being pushed into a relationship with another girl.
But at the same time Jerrica continues to apparently push cheating onto him, seemingly inviting this sort of thing into her life (which is often troublesome enough as it is). It can be argued that whatever happens to her, whatever heartbreak she may go through, she practically invited into her life (and may in fact deserve). She could solve all this by telling her boyfriend the truth about Jem, but Rio is known to take things very seriously, and that includes a pathological hatred of liars (the possibility of him accusing her of using him as a toy is very high).
So the question we have to ask is this
Jem-Jerrica-Rio. Is it cheating and what can possibly be done about it?
Character bios here
http://jem.wikia.com/wiki/Rio_Pacheco
http://jem.wikia.com/wiki/Jerrica_Benton
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edit-didn't realize this was a D&D thread
- John Stuart Mill
2 words: hannah montana.
Hannah Montana has the excuse of wanting to be able to have a normal life. Jerrica, less so.
Both man-at-arms and Orco knew.
Like, all he does is put on more clothing. Doesn't even wear glasses or change his hair style. Both are obviously the same height and build, both have GIANT FUCKING GREEN CATS. Both carry the same sword.
Also, Jem was just manipulative and was trying to trick Rio into cheating so she could catch him and then demand fancy jewelry as an apology. All those orphange-directors-turned-hi-tech-rockstars are the same.
I think it reflects the romantic paradigm that underpins the central thesis of the show. The titular character represents the idealized persona that one seeks to present to the world. Women especially are socially rewarded for constructing elaborate facades that express glamour, attractiveness, celebrity and style, as represented by the fame and adoration that Jem receives. However, she also harbors her true self as an almost "secret identity."
She is willing to display private self to her close friends, but in a romantic setting her fear of intimacy doesn't allow her to completely abandon her public persona entirely. The romantic relationship is a method for achieving "exciting adventure/fashion and fame" rather than true intimacy. Her inability to commit fully to trusting her beau with her true self rather than her "glittery" identity speaks of the societal dangers of so devaluing honesty and idolizing unreality, and insincere affectation and the deification of entertainment figures (the height of such paradigms). Divining the line between the plastic mask of the proto pop starlet and one's true face becomes increasingly difficult. As the famous theme attests: "Once you're a Jem girl/You're never the same "
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Or,you know, because The Holograms were her siblings, not her friends, and presumably knew as much about their father's work as Jerrica.
- John Stuart Mill
Because Filmation defined "lazy animation"?