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[PATV] Wednesday, April 24, 2013 - Extra Credits Season 6, Ep. 7: Games You Might Not Have Tried #5
It might be in a bit of a different vein, but you guys should check out Intrusion 2 for the next episode of this. It's a sequel to a free flash game that one guy made over three years, and the best comparison would be to the old over-the-top platformer shoot-em-ups like Contra and Metal Slug. It certainly ascends to that level of downright silly levels of awesome sometime between the part where you battle giant flying mecha-squids and the part where you get to ride a giant wolf.
I have said it before and I will say it again; Phantom Dust for the original Xbox was the best game I have ever played. I am just sad that I will probably never see a sequel to it, or even a game like it again.
does anyone else miss EC having 'important' text in the credits? I know it's only a small thing, and I like Strip Search as much as the next guy, but it feels like I always wait excitedly and then it's really nothing important.
Also, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR OWN HOUR LONG TV SHOW YET?!?! Seriously! I would pay all the monies. Ever. I don't care if it's a $20 per episode PPV, I would KILL for EC to be able to make hour long episodes every week.
Also aside from FTL, I really thought Hotline Miami was a refreshing and exciting experience.
I remember picking up NightSky in the Humble Bundle, and being a bit sceptical at first, but once I started playing it, I fell in love. It's on Android as well as PC, but I suggest an Android playthrough. It had me swiping my screen like a madman trying to roll a ball across the screen. It throws a nice and varied amount of things at you: New scenery, vehicles (Yes, you can be a ball, in a flying machine.) and new tactics just before you start getting bored...
I also rated Atom Zombie Smasher very highly, a nice mix of RTS and some kinda-sorta-is-a-bit-like grand strategy gameplay, nice graphics, great soundtrack, and the satisfaction of carpet bombing a zombie infested city. I highly recommend.
Keep it up guys, loving the return of GYMNHT.
Have you guys heard of "to the moon". I don't recall you talking about it in a previous episode but it's story is beautiful. Once it starts you don't want to stop playing just so that you can see the story to the end. The only downside though is that in terms of gameplay it's near non-existent. So if you prefer gameplay to story I wouldn't recommend this but you are missing out on it's story.
It'd be nice if you told us what platform all these are on. I know a few are PC, but if one is an android game (for example), that might give me extra incentive to pick it up.
Still no love for Transcendence? It's another roguelike (IN SPAAAACE). Only the first chapter is finished, but at least two more are planned and it still has a robust modding community. http://transcendence.kronosaur.com/
Second nomination is AaAaAA!!! - A Reckless Disregard for Gravity, a game all about jumping off of things and flipping off protestors. It's as awesome as it sounds. Available on Steam.
I came across a game called "Papers, please" a bit ago, and it's strange how engaging the gameplay is. You play as a border officer in the early 80's. You have to decide who to let into the country based on their documents and the rules that are created by the government on any particular day, all while trying to earn enough to take care of your family.
You can see the trailer on steam greenlight, and there's a free beta available on the developer's website for Mac and PC. http://dukope.com/
I came across a game called "Papers, please" a bit ago, and it's strange how engaging the gameplay is. You play as a border officer in the early 80's. You have to decide who to let into the country based on their documents and the rules that are created by the government on any particular day, all while trying to earn enough to take care of your family.
You can see the trailer on steam greenlight, and there's a free beta available on the developer's website for Mac and PC. http://dukope.com/
Would love to see an episode devoted to Wii games. Playing Pandora's Tower at the moment and it feels very good. Nostalgic while also novel in terms of story.
I even think there is enough on these two games, by the same company, in terms of mechanics, settings and playing with our feelings to do a whole episode on it.
Well I struck out this episode. Having played half those games, and heard of everything else bar Commander (cause I don't get into the turn based strategy genre much), I'm left wondering why there weren't more obscure titles like Home on the list, and less highly publicised indies such as FTL, Natural Selection 2 and Mark of the Ninja. Not saying these aren't great games; NS2 and Mark of the Ninja are great and I'll probably pick up FTL at some point. But it seems like an opportunity missed to point out things that haven't necessarily been pointed out before.
I'm a little surprised you guys haven't done Binding of Isaac. If you haven't heard of it (you should have) imagine the old 2D Zelda dungeons mixed with the bible and horror. Your mother wants to kill you because she thinks that god is talking to her and wants her to use you as a sacrifice. It's an amazing little roguelike.
Also, I Get This Call Every Day. A completely realistic simulator of what it's like to work in a call center and get one of those annoying kids who just wastes your time. The art is terrible, the game isn't fun but it's a point of mechanics as metaphors for a shitty job. Go give it a play, it's only, like, three dollars and about 15-30 minutes (maybe even an hour if you're really thorough) to go through all of the conversations.
It's got the most amazing mix of Tetris and Magic: The Gathering I've ever played. I have well over 70 hours pumped into it, and yet I know only one other person who played it, and he only played it because I recommended it to him.
You guys really ought to give it a try, it seems really complex at first, but once you figure out how the game works, it all meshes together so wonderfully. It's addictive, creative, intense, though-provoking.
It's what Puzzle Quest was trying to be. It's really something special. Plus, it's available on DS, PC, Ipad, PS3, and 360. So pretty much everyone has a platform with which they can play it.
For the longest time I was sure you guys had FTL in one of your other iterations of this series but could never find it. Commander the Great War looks like a game that would be right up my alley. I remember as a kid I had a game just called "the great war" by SSI that I liked but struggled with because elementary school me couldn't think of strategies that worked. Thomas Was Alone I see on PSN on sale now so I'll pick it up and give it a shot
I feel like I've said this before but I want to echo "Timebolt" down below. You guys really need to feature "To the Moon". Honestly, I feel like an entire episode could be used talking about that game. We've had five of these episodes and no mention of "To the Moon", what gives?
you should totally recomend Perspective, its a cross 2d 3d puzzle game created by students at digipen. and best of all its FREE.
search: see with perspective on google =]
I've brought up Pathologic and The Void a few times in these threads, too. They're fascinating, and deserve shout outs. Since they did their 'Global Games: Brazil' episode I've been wondering if they'll do an episode on Russian games; anything to get these games more publicity.
On a side note, loved Thomas Was Alone, I can honestly say I've never been so attached to bouncing quadrilaterals before :-p
@Wetalo They have, it was on one of the earlier episodes. This series is on the list of how I introduce friends to EC, so I have seen them alot. Check out the earlier ones, it is in there somewhere.
@EC Hey guys, could you continue on some of the series you have begun? Like the Games You Might Not Have Played sub-series focusing on old games by era, or the world game industry series like the Brazil episode.
This is probably one of the craziest mixes of 4X, RTS, Tower Defense, Grand Strategy, and aggro management, that I've ever played. You play as the survivors of a devastating war against the machines that has basically wiped humanity from existence. Like a 4X game, you will expand, explore, exploit, and exterminate, but you'll do it in real time, with most of the economy aspects of the game being automated to an extent that you will only need to worry about the very top level of strategy. Fleet sizes get to the upper hundreds very rapidly, and can eventually reach into the tens of thousands.
The game isn't perfect. The learning curve is steep as hell. The interface is clunky and you'll want to take some time just reading the key bindings. You must do the entire tutorial to even have a remote idea what is going on (which, to be honest, is fairly lengthy and in-depth). I'm not even sure this game is for me: I'm still doing the tutorial, and I'm frustrated as hell at some of the flaws in this game. But I'm pretty sure that someone out there who has never heard of this game is going to love it.
I would say Guns Of Icarus Online. Its an arena multiplayer combat game, except its 4 player coop congtrolling steam punk zepplins as a whole unit. One person pilots, theres guns around the ship, some people can repair damaged systems. Lots of different ships and custom loadouts for different play styles.
In terms of interesting games, I recommend anything by Christine Love, especially Analogue: A Hate Story. It's essentially a visual novel which tackles the social structure of feudal Korea, but does so brilliantly through empathy of the characters and shocking events. Definitely worth a play; one of my favourite games of the past few years.
God, FTL is so great. There are still people who haven't played it?!
What strikes me in this video is that, to look at it, the game looks hopelessly complex. But it's really not. You can pick up FTL, do the tutorial, and then start playing pretty much immediately. Everything is pretty straightforward and intuitive.
As for a recommendation:
ANTICHAMBER.
If you liked Portal, Antichamber is like Portal's more intelligent older brother. It's a sandbox puzzle game -- think Metroid, if instead of gathering tools, you were gathering knowledge. You solve a puzzle, and instead of a bomb bag or something, your reward is the gears-clicking-together sensation of suddenly knowing how to solve some other puzzle you were fighting with earlier.
It's also trippy as all hell, and does some MC Escher -type shit I guarantee you've never seen in a game before. Try not to freak out when you walk into a room, turn around, and the door you just entered through is now a staircase going somewhere else entirely.
Antichamber is a paradigmatic leap forward for the puzzle genre. It's the best puzzle game I've ever played, and EASILY my top game of last year.
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Yeah, I'll agree with the common crowd. This episode was more "Games you probably saw on Steam, but didn't buy yet" and less "Games you might not of heard of". Home is really good, Mark of the Ninja is really good, I hear countless praise on FTL, and NS2 is a dream competitive FPS/RTS, but I'd like more obscurity on these episodes. The main thing I look at for new games is Steam, and if that's where most of the titles for this list are coming from, it dulls the episode significantly.
Personally, Thomas Was Alone is the only one on the list that intrigued me because of how incredibly metaphoric it looks while remaining minimalistic. Tack on that I've never heard of it before, and you got yourself a sale.
tl;dr - Love the show, episode was okay, but needs more "undiscovered" games and less Steam sales.
I second Sydro, Perspective is a clever game with unique puzzles in which you manipulate your view FPS style in order to create a 2D world you navigate as a platform game. It has been a long time since I've laugh out loud at a clever puzzle solution, and this game had me doing it more than once. And it's free, but available for Windows only.
I've actually heard of most of these, and am even doing a let's play of Thomas was alone on youtube under this same username. Another good lesser known game is Miasmata. It's got it's problems, but it's not like anything else. There's no other game I can think of were the character and the surroundings are as dangerous as the enemies themselves, and combat isn't a central point, which is a nice change of pace.
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Also, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR OWN HOUR LONG TV SHOW YET?!?! Seriously! I would pay all the monies. Ever. I don't care if it's a $20 per episode PPV, I would KILL for EC to be able to make hour long episodes every week.
Also aside from FTL, I really thought Hotline Miami was a refreshing and exciting experience.
I also rated Atom Zombie Smasher very highly, a nice mix of RTS and some kinda-sorta-is-a-bit-like grand strategy gameplay, nice graphics, great soundtrack, and the satisfaction of carpet bombing a zombie infested city. I highly recommend.
Keep it up guys, loving the return of GYMNHT.
http://transcendence.kronosaur.com/
Second nomination is AaAaAA!!! - A Reckless Disregard for Gravity, a game all about jumping off of things and flipping off protestors. It's as awesome as it sounds. Available on Steam.
its like double dragons with a bit of marvel vs capcom mixed into its system
tons of fun
You can see the trailer on steam greenlight, and there's a free beta available on the developer's website for Mac and PC. http://dukope.com/
You can see the trailer on steam greenlight, and there's a free beta available on the developer's website for Mac and PC. http://dukope.com/
For Reference:
Pathologic:
-Trailer:
-Informative Review:
-RPS article (spoilers):
-- Part 1: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/04/10/butchering-pathologic-part-1-the-body/
-- Part 2: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/04/11/butchering-pathologic-part-2-the-mind/
-- Part 3: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/04/12/butchering-pathologic-part-3-the-soul/
The Void:
-Trailer (NSFW):
-Trailer 2 (NSFW):
I even think there is enough on these two games, by the same company, in terms of mechanics, settings and playing with our feelings to do a whole episode on it.
Well I struck out this episode. Having played half those games, and heard of everything else bar Commander (cause I don't get into the turn based strategy genre much), I'm left wondering why there weren't more obscure titles like Home on the list, and less highly publicised indies such as FTL, Natural Selection 2 and Mark of the Ninja. Not saying these aren't great games; NS2 and Mark of the Ninja are great and I'll probably pick up FTL at some point. But it seems like an opportunity missed to point out things that haven't necessarily been pointed out before.
Maybe I'm just too well read.
Also, I Get This Call Every Day. A completely realistic simulator of what it's like to work in a call center and get one of those annoying kids who just wastes your time. The art is terrible, the game isn't fun but it's a point of mechanics as metaphors for a shitty job. Go give it a play, it's only, like, three dollars and about 15-30 minutes (maybe even an hour if you're really thorough) to go through all of the conversations.
It's got the most amazing mix of Tetris and Magic: The Gathering I've ever played. I have well over 70 hours pumped into it, and yet I know only one other person who played it, and he only played it because I recommended it to him.
You guys really ought to give it a try, it seems really complex at first, but once you figure out how the game works, it all meshes together so wonderfully. It's addictive, creative, intense, though-provoking.
It's what Puzzle Quest was trying to be. It's really something special. Plus, it's available on DS, PC, Ipad, PS3, and 360. So pretty much everyone has a platform with which they can play it.
search: see with perspective on google =]
I've brought up Pathologic and The Void a few times in these threads, too. They're fascinating, and deserve shout outs. Since they did their 'Global Games: Brazil' episode I've been wondering if they'll do an episode on Russian games; anything to get these games more publicity.
On a side note, loved Thomas Was Alone, I can honestly say I've never been so attached to bouncing quadrilaterals before :-p
@EC Hey guys, could you continue on some of the series you have begun? Like the Games You Might Not Have Played sub-series focusing on old games by era, or the world game industry series like the Brazil episode.
http://www.arcengames.com/w/index.php/aiwar-features
This is probably one of the craziest mixes of 4X, RTS, Tower Defense, Grand Strategy, and aggro management, that I've ever played. You play as the survivors of a devastating war against the machines that has basically wiped humanity from existence. Like a 4X game, you will expand, explore, exploit, and exterminate, but you'll do it in real time, with most of the economy aspects of the game being automated to an extent that you will only need to worry about the very top level of strategy. Fleet sizes get to the upper hundreds very rapidly, and can eventually reach into the tens of thousands.
The game isn't perfect. The learning curve is steep as hell. The interface is clunky and you'll want to take some time just reading the key bindings. You must do the entire tutorial to even have a remote idea what is going on (which, to be honest, is fairly lengthy and in-depth). I'm not even sure this game is for me: I'm still doing the tutorial, and I'm frustrated as hell at some of the flaws in this game. But I'm pretty sure that someone out there who has never heard of this game is going to love it.
Nooooooo! I am left + middle button elbow smashing all enemies in my imagination now. I can't make it stop!!
What strikes me in this video is that, to look at it, the game looks hopelessly complex. But it's really not. You can pick up FTL, do the tutorial, and then start playing pretty much immediately. Everything is pretty straightforward and intuitive.
As for a recommendation:
ANTICHAMBER.
If you liked Portal, Antichamber is like Portal's more intelligent older brother. It's a sandbox puzzle game -- think Metroid, if instead of gathering tools, you were gathering knowledge. You solve a puzzle, and instead of a bomb bag or something, your reward is the gears-clicking-together sensation of suddenly knowing how to solve some other puzzle you were fighting with earlier.
It's also trippy as all hell, and does some MC Escher -type shit I guarantee you've never seen in a game before. Try not to freak out when you walk into a room, turn around, and the door you just entered through is now a staircase going somewhere else entirely.
Antichamber is a paradigmatic leap forward for the puzzle genre. It's the best puzzle game I've ever played, and EASILY my top game of last year.
Personally, Thomas Was Alone is the only one on the list that intrigued me because of how incredibly metaphoric it looks while remaining minimalistic. Tack on that I've never heard of it before, and you got yourself a sale.
tl;dr - Love the show, episode was okay, but needs more "undiscovered" games and less Steam sales.
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Man, good old Natural Selection, it's been a long time...
Try IB and yume nikki
I had to laugh at the clip of the little chicks mobilizing to take down a tyrannosaurus.
Unfinished Swan got a LOT of exposure on Toonami. I'm probably the 12th person here to say it.
http://www.seewithperspective.com/