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The Thread Without Fear (Daredevil)

Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong LoveRegistered User regular
edited April 2007 in Graphic Violence
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For the uninitiated, here's his Wikipedia entry:

Daredevil (Matthew Murdock) is a fictional character, a superhero in the Marvel Comics Universe. Created by writer Stan Lee and artist Bill Everett[1] in Daredevil vol. 1, #1 (April 1964), he is notable as being among the few superheroes with a disability. Blinded during his youth, his other four senses developed to compensate, and he obtained a sonar-like ability to perceive objects.

Over the years Daredevil has been the guardian of Hell's Kitchen in 616's New York. Starting serious shit there means you're going to be getting a visit from this fine fellow. He is unique in that his strengths are attributed to his handicap of being blind, and seldom has there been characters used in this fashion that aren't some sort of parody.

So...I suppose the first question I pose to you all would be: Brubaker's run. Is it overrated?

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I don't read DD, from what I hear I should be.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Brubaker's first arc was masterful. His second arc was less good.

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  • MiSTieOtakuMiSTieOtaku Registered User
    edited March 2007
    Besides Bullseye, does Daredevil have any sort of Rogue's Gallery of his own? I know he's, sort of, Kingpin's arch nemesis, but has DD gone up against any costumed villains that are basically his bad guys?

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Nitro seems to be somebody he's ran into on multiple occasions. DD himself had mentioned he has a really shitty set of "villains". His bread and butter is beating the shit out of mafia types/various gangsters.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Typhoid Mary.
    Tombstone.
    The Owl.
    Gladiator.
    Elektra (on and off).

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  • Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Elektra and the Hand, Typhoid Mary, Purple Man, the Matador, the Owl and Gladiator. They're not all so high profile. Gladiator's reformed, too.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    But man Typhoid Mary is such an awesome character.

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  • PsychoLarry1PsychoLarry1 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Gladiator.
    Gladiator?

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
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  • zkeyzkey Registered User
    edited March 2007
    Brubaker's work was good, but Bendis and Maleev are the reason I fell in love with the book.

    So yeah, to me Brubaker's run seems a bit overrated if only because a lot of people are calling it better than Bendis/Maleev's.

    Edit: DD has also had a few confrontations with Hammerhead

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  • LRGLRG Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Besides Bullseye, does Daredevil have any sort of Rogue's Gallery of his own? I know he's, sort of, Kingpin's arch nemesis, but has DD gone up against any costumed villains that are basically his bad guys?

    Stilt-man

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  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I seem to recall DD having an ongoing tiff with that Blackheart demon guy, and mephisto too (less certain about mephisto).

    DD in the late 80's was weird.

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  • Pantaley ShlopapaPantaley Shlopapa Registered User
    edited March 2007
    The Jester
    The Matador
    Echo
    Paladin (sort of)
    Hammerhead

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  • SilpheedSilpheed Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Is Bushwacker considered a Daredevil villain?

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Marathon wrote: »
    I don't read DD, from what I hear I should be.

    Start with Bendis and Maleev. Avoid Bob Gail. (If you're intent on going Volume 2 first)

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  • Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    I don't read DD, from what I hear I should be.

    Start with Bendis and Maleev. Avoid Bob Gail. (If you're intent on going Volume 2 first)

    I don't think they ever collected those, and for good reason. That was the longest, most boring trial ever.

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User
    edited March 2007
    Is Marvel's Hell's Kitchen anything like the real Hell's Kitchen anymore, or have they kept it the same as it was in the 60's so they can justify the continued presence of a superhero dedicated to the area?

    I mean, the Daily Show is filmed there now.

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Is Marvel's Hell's Kitchen anything like the real Hell's Kitchen anymore, or have they kept it the same as it was in the 60's so they can justify the continued presence of a superhero dedicated to the area?

    I mean, the Daily Show is filmed there now.

    well, yes and no.
    when Matt became kingpin, he turned Hell's Kitchen into like one of the safest and nicest places of NYC. I'm not sure what condition it is in now that he is no longer kingpin.

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  • SkankPlayaSkankPlaya Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I really love these tpb's. I wish my brother would buy more so I can read them.

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Is Marvel's Hell's Kitchen anything like the real Hell's Kitchen anymore, or have they kept it the same as it was in the 60's so they can justify the continued presence of a superhero dedicated to the area?

    I mean, the Daily Show is filmed there now.

    Marvel's Hell Kitchen is similar to the relatively normal modern one, as explained by Punisher in his old Marvel Knights series by Garth Ennis.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I never understood quite how the baton/nunchuck/flail thing worked. Does it have a retract button?

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  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    If I remember correctly Reed made the chainmail mesh for Daredevil's costume and I can only imagine he had him also modify his baton so the cable attaches and detaches as quickly as it does. Don't think the baton was ever really explained how a blind guy put something like that together

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  • Snake GandhiSnake Gandhi Des Moines, IARegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Besides Bullseye, does Daredevil have any sort of Rogue's Gallery of his own? I know he's, sort of, Kingpin's arch nemesis, but has DD gone up against any costumed villains that are basically his bad guys?
    He fights the Hand more than anyone else on earth.

    Seriously, thats why when the New Avengers had to deal with the Hand, Cap went to Matt first.

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    Typhoid Mary.
    Tombstone.
    The Owl.
    Gladiator.
    Elektra (on and off).

    mister hyde

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Which recent issues were the ones everyone was blasting their loads over? The prison arc or whatever? I'd like to pick them up.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    The Devil in Cell Block D TPB, issues 82-87.

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Devil on Cell Block D and Devil Takes a Ride (didn't enjoy that one too much)

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Well...to the Devil His Due is giving me the impression Brubaker is really unwilling to take himself out of territory established by Bendis.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Why does he have to do something different? Bendis' run was superb, I've got no problem with Brubaker continuing to tell stories in the same vein, since he's just as good at it as BMB was.

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Why does he have to do something different? Bendis' run was superb, I've got no problem with Brubaker continuing to tell stories in the same vein, since he's just as good at it as BMB was.

    The difference being there was a sense of imminent danger. Matt was in a terrible position that culminated in him going batshit on Bullseye. Now, while his shit isn't perfect, Murdock's life is for the most part back to normal. Since the name of the arc seems to hint at something coming to him I can't help but feel we're going to regress instead of progress. Brubaker should know this theme is becoming a little played out right now to anybody following Marvel, let alone DD.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited March 2007
    Or, you could wait and see what's actually going to happen before calling the events overplayed.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Just a quickie:
    Where's a good starting point for getting into DD?

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Actually, right now isn't too bad. They just finished up the last major arc, and they're about to start what happens now that DD has come back from Europe.

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  • SkankPlayaSkankPlaya Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    ok, so I read the 13th tpb. Oh mans. Oh mans. Oh mans. Oh mans!!! I knew it was coming, it's just so awesome how it gets there. This is becoming one of my favorite series.

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2007
    the scene from the king of hell's kitchen arc where
    matt in plainclothes takes on a hundred guys jacked up on mgh and fucking kicks their collective ass, specifically the page where the fight starts and before, urich had been talking about how when someone really wants to kill you they just show up and murder you and then just this big one page splash where matt's leaping like ten feet over their heads with his cane up just fucking all-out attacking, and urich goes 'at least, in theory'
    , that scene is my favorite superhero moment of all time.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Yeah dude, Daredevil is pretty much the most badass guy ever.

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  • SkankPlayaSkankPlaya Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    "fucking ninjas" best line ever.

    Is The Devil In Cell Block D the 14th tbp? when does that come out? is it out? how come I didn't see it at the store? I need more now!!! Gimme my damn fix!

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  • Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    It came out. They decided to renumber it 1. I think the second Brubaker trade comes out next month? Maybe?

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Servo wrote: »
    the scene from the king of hell's kitchen arc where
    matt in plainclothes takes on a hundred guys jacked up on mgh and fucking kicks their collective ass, specifically the page where the fight starts and before, urich had been talking about how when someone really wants to kill you they just show up and murder you and then just this big one page splash where matt's leaping like ten feet over their heads with his cane up just fucking all-out attacking, and urich goes 'at least, in theory'
    , that scene is my favorite superhero moment of all time.

    Mine was when during Hardcore
    Matt has fucking had it with Bullseye and does what isn't really out of character for somebody with that sort of stress level....he takes a rock and carves out the outline of Bullseye's tattoo. It is at that moment that Bullseye is both surprised and scared shitless. This is what happens when you fuck with a hero one too many times.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    Servo wrote: »
    the scene from the king of hell's kitchen arc where
    matt in plainclothes takes on a hundred guys jacked up on mgh and fucking kicks their collective ass, specifically the page where the fight starts and before, urich had been talking about how when someone really wants to kill you they just show up and murder you and then just this big one page splash where matt's leaping like ten feet over their heads with his cane up just fucking all-out attacking, and urich goes 'at least, in theory'
    , that scene is my favorite superhero moment of all time.

    Mine was when during Hardcore
    Matt has fucking had it with Bullseye and does what isn't really out of character for somebody with that sort of stress level....he takes a rock and carves out the outline of Bullseye's tattoo. It is at that moment that Bullseye is both surprised and scared shitless. This is what happens when you fuck with a hero one too many times.

    Wait, what? I havent read it but it sounds interesting.

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