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Fish are friends too! [Fish/Tank Thread]

PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
edited May 2013 in Social Entropy++
So I bought a new Betta Fish last weekend and I noticed that he's super picky and refuses to his pellets and just eat the blood worm treats. I've been giving him 3 or 4 pellets a day too but he ignores the pellets. So my question is, is it ok for him to just eat blood worms or should I stop giving them to him untill he starts eatting the pellets and then adding a few worms later on to his diet?

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    oh my god
    how did you know i spent hours today looking at pico reef tanks


    gimme the deets of your betta tank
    how big is it
    do you have a heater
    whats the temp
    what sort of filtration
    are they dried blood worms?
    when was the last time you did a water change/how often do you do water changes/how much/what sort of stuff do you use in your water


    overall: Blood worms are for treats, not a staple diet. If your fish isn't eating its normal pellet food then you need to figure out what you've messed up that is making him cranky

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Normally I'd say this would be better off in H&A, but Kochi seems to have it under control. :D

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    please answer as many of these as possible for me to diagnose your fish problems


    Test Results for the Following:
    * Ammonia Level(tank)
    * Nitrite Level(tank)
    * Nitrate level(tank)
    * Ammonia Level(tap)
    * Nitrite Level(tap)
    * Nitrate level(tap)
    * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)

    Other Info pleasethanks:
    * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
    * Water temperature?
    * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
    * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
    * How often do you change the water and how much?
    * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
    * How many fish in the tank and their size?
    * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
    * Any new fish added to the tank?
    * Any medications added to the tank?
    * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
    * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
    * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating (Other than the already obvious not eating except for bloodworms), etc.?

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    Mkay So I have 2 gallon Fluval Aquarium kit, his water is room temp, and I just bought him New life spectrum pellets because he wouldn't eat the old ones. And I got the Aqueon Freeze-dried blood worms which he loves. and I've given him alittle pinch full of them three times this week.

  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    Kochi are you like Dr. House for fish

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    yea! he sleeps at the bottom mostly :/ I put in a few aquasafe drop when I put in his new rock two days ago. I don't have any test strips to test his water.

  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    oh man you got the fluval spec?? I LOVE that tank, I was thinking of getting it for a betta of my own!! Good choice. To be honest I was totally prepared to rant at you about not putting it in a bowl so I am supes glad you have a pretty bitchin tank! I assume it's a new set up, or have you been cycling it before you added the betta? Have you tested the water?


    So you should be feeding him once a day, as much as he can eat in 5 minutes. What else do you have in the Spec with him? Are you remembering to turn the light out at night, in preferably 12 hour intervals? Also, what is room temp? Is he showing any signs of distress that I mentioned on the form above??

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    But he hasn't been eatting anything but the worms since I got him.

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    Nah I've had it for 3 years because I had a betta in it before but he died last week. So I just got a new one last saturday and he's the weirdest fish I've had lmao xDD

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    and I know right! I love my tank it's really nice!

  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    man my cat is easier to take care of, goddamn

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  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    and my room gets to about 70 degrees so I'm guessing around there. and yea he sleeps on the bottom but he moves around the tank too. He just doesn't seem to want to eat the pellets I've been giving him. Should I stop giving him the worms and just keep giving him the pellets then?

  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    hmm yeah if he's bottom sleeping during the day that could be a sign of a lot of things... I'd deffo do a water test, or take your water into your Local Fish Store (From now on abbreviated as LFS) for them to test it. You're at the beginning of your cycle, which could be very dangerous for a fishums. You should be adding in the aquasafe into your water BEFORE you add it into the tank... Get like, a icecream pail or a never-used paint mixing bucket to be mixing your water in... I recommend leaving it sit overnight with some aquasafe in it, that way you know any chlorine evaporates, it's the proper room temp, and it's all mixed up good too.

    Are you doing big changes? Seeing as you're cycling you're going to be needing to do a lot of them, but it's haaarrdd when you have a Pico (Pico means under 5 gallons) tank to keep your water chemistry good. Definitely go out and get yourself a testing kit and start keeping a diary of those stats I posted above, what you want to see is this:

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    What that boils down to is, your tank and your fish are gonna be kinda fucked until your filtration can build up some beneficial bacterias that will help cycle your tank. Here's some more info on that: http://www.firsttankguide.net/cycle.php



    What sort of rock did you put in?? If it's a rock you found, did you test it with vinegar or anything? Did you boil it clean?

  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    oh shit
    youre posting faster than i can post


    edit because I cant post this fast:


    if youve had the tank for 3 years you deffo need to just test hte water or bring it into your LFS for them to test it and tell you whats up


    ALSO the thing with buying a betta from a LFS is that you don't know what AGE it is when they got it, or if the fish was healthy or fucked or what when you got it. You could just have a bad fish, as shitty as that is. But you should deffo get your water tested. And worms won't keep him alive forever, you gotta manage to get him to eat pellets.

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  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    He's not my first fish but fuck this one is just so damn picky. I've gone to the pet store two times already and they don't seem to know what to do. T.T

  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Specific information will help the nice lady help you!

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  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    lol sorry xD and ok I'll get some test strips and let you know what they say. and it's a rock I bought from the fish section at walmart he likes to sleep in it and go in and out of it. He freaks out runs to the bottom of his tank when I go to look at him but he like to sleep at the top of his tank too.

  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    yeah it always is shitty when youve got a fish and you dont know wttfff


    but imo, as far as what you've told me



    I'd get your water tested by your LFS and get yourself your own testing kit (They run between 20-50$, but last for fucking ever and they make you feel like a SCIENTIST when you use them)
    because it could be something with your water? And even if your past fish wasn't effected, I mean, it could be now. Or hey maybe its what killed your old fish. BB's (Beneficial Bacteria) are crazy shit, and sometimes shit just goes wrong, your cycle could be thrown off. Did you recently clean your filter/change the bio material?

    Stop feeding him bloodworms, he won't die if he goes hungry for a day or two or three. Switch to pellets entirely.

    Check him THOROUGHLY for parasites or anything that visually looks wrong. There's a good possibility he had something on him or brought it in with him. Cause if he's bottom sitting and not eating he sounds siiccckkk.

  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    lol sorry xD and ok I'll get some test strips and let you know what they say. and it's a rock I bought from the fish section at walmart he likes to sleep in it and go in and out of it. He freaks out runs to the bottom of his tank when I go to look at him but he like to sleep at the top of his tank too.

    test strips are actually kinda shitty
    get the kit
    take water to the LFS too

    aw he sounds sweet!!

  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    also you dont have to stop bloodworms but if you get the frozen kind they're waaaayyy better and more nutritious. They come in little blocks and you can just cut off a slice of it and dethaw it in a show glass, then give him them, he will fucking go APE SHIT.


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  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    5
    Here's a pic of him :)[img][/img]

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    5

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    nuu it's not working :/

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  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    I think it's awesome! Me and my mom have been wanting to do a saltwater tank but it's just so expensive :/

  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    whoah hold on there what's odd about fish?

    fish are fucking rad
    I'll cut you man

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    elds2.jpg

    You needed to add the .jpg at the end.
    Damned pretty looking fish.

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    Kochikens wrote: »
    please answer as many of these as possible for me to diagnose your fish problems


    Test Results for the Following:
    * Ammonia Level(tank)
    * Nitrite Level(tank)
    * Nitrate level(tank)
    * Ammonia Level(tap)
    * Nitrite Level(tap)
    * Nitrate level(tap)
    * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)

    Other Info pleasethanks:
    * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
    * Water temperature?
    * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
    * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
    * How often do you change the water and how much?
    * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
    * How many fish in the tank and their size?
    * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
    * Any new fish added to the tank?
    * Any medications added to the tank?
    * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
    * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
    * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating (Other than the already obvious not eating except for bloodworms), etc.?

    I could run all those tests on Ion Chromatography for a good price. Would you like a quote?

    Also it's pH

    I'd have to run that using an ISE though. Paper test strips are not accurate enough.

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    oh btw my old fish died because he jumped out of a jar while I was letting his letting his tank get to room temp after cleaning it. it was pretty tragic. we found him alive but he didn't last the night. He was just too upset and I'm pretty sure he was hurt too. There was nothing we could do for him :(

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    wow
    your water actually looks really clear!!
    and I can't see any parasites from this photo alone
    his fins don't look very full for a crown-tailed betta though, looking a little clamped


    also oghulk you have no idea how fucking pumped i am about fish

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  • smofsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Yeah fish are pretty normal things to find awesome.

    Especially considering the epic things you can do with tanks.

  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    oh btw my old fish died because he jumped out of a jar while I was letting his letting his tank get to room temp after cleaning it. it was pretty tragic. we found him alive but he didn't last the night. He was just too upset and I'm pretty sure he was hurt too. There was nothing we could do for him :(

    that suuuuccks im sorry D: I'm glad you're trying again though!!

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    see317 wrote: »
    elds2.jpg

    You needed to add the .jpg at the end.
    Damned pretty looking fish.

    lol thank you! and he is! I named him King. I'm just hoping he's just being picky but I'll test his water for sure.

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  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    Hunter wrote: »
    Kochikens wrote: »
    please answer as many of these as possible for me to diagnose your fish problems


    Test Results for the Following:
    * Ammonia Level(tank)
    * Nitrite Level(tank)
    * Nitrate level(tank)
    * Ammonia Level(tap)
    * Nitrite Level(tap)
    * Nitrate level(tap)
    * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)

    Other Info pleasethanks:
    * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
    * Water temperature?
    * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
    * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
    * How often do you change the water and how much?
    * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
    * How many fish in the tank and their size?
    * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
    * Any new fish added to the tank?
    * Any medications added to the tank?
    * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
    * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
    * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating (Other than the already obvious not eating except for bloodworms), etc.?

    I could run all those tests on Ion Chromatography for a good price. Would you like a quote?

    Also it's pH

    I'd have to run that using an ISE though. Paper test strips are not accurate enough.

    yea thanks that would be great!

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Kochikens wrote: »
    wow
    your water actually looks really clear!!
    and I can't see any parasites from this photo alone
    his fins don't look very full for a crown-tailed betta though, looking a little clamped


    also oghulk you have no idea how fucking pumped i am about fish

    yea :( also when I got him his top fins we're alittle prettier looking it kinda looks like he's lost his color a tiny bit.

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    smof wrote: »
    Yeah fish are pretty normal things to find awesome.

    Especially considering the epic things you can do with tanks.

    speaking of epic tanks, I was checking out this sexy bitch today


    lagoon pico reef tank, 3 gallons
    EQUIPMENT;
    tank(unknown maker) 15 1/4L x 9 3/4W x 5H
    Elite mini 25 watt heater
    Tetra internal power filter 2-10 gallon(85gph)
    13 watt 6500k cfl bulb(for mangroves)
    2-3 x 1w cool white and 3-4 x 1w royal blue gu10 LEDs
    2 hydor pico evolution power heads

    LIVESTOCK;
    8lbs dry rock/2lbs live rock
    8lbs live sand
    7 mangroves
    several macroalgaes...ochtodes,halymenia sp, unidentified red macro
    cuc...3 ceriths,3 nerites,1 nassarius,limpets,bristle worms
    feature fish/Invert...Yellow clown goby,2 sexy shrimp
    3 colors of gsp
    Photosynthetic gorgonian
    Pulsing Xenia
    Blue sympodium
    20+ types zoanthids
    5 acan lords
    3 ricordias
    2 acan echinata
    Orange sun coral

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    (Note: These are actually called sexy shrimp)

  • PassionateLoviePassionateLovie Registered User regular
    What does it mean if their clamped is it a bad thing? D:

  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    Hunter wrote: »
    Kochikens wrote: »
    please answer as many of these as possible for me to diagnose your fish problems


    Test Results for the Following:
    * Ammonia Level(tank)
    * Nitrite Level(tank)
    * Nitrate level(tank)
    * Ammonia Level(tap)
    * Nitrite Level(tap)
    * Nitrate level(tap)
    * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)

    Other Info pleasethanks:
    * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
    * Water temperature?
    * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
    * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
    * How often do you change the water and how much?
    * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
    * How many fish in the tank and their size?
    * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
    * Any new fish added to the tank?
    * Any medications added to the tank?
    * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
    * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
    * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating (Other than the already obvious not eating except for bloodworms), etc.?

    I could run all those tests on Ion Chromatography for a good price. Would you like a quote?

    Also it's pH

    I'd have to run that using an ISE though. Paper test strips are not accurate enough.

    yea thanks that would be great!

    I you want me to report the data to the EPA or to the European Union REACH offices, it's an extra $100 per sample.

  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    whoah hold on there what's odd about fish?

    fish are fucking rad
    I'll cut you man

    nothin' odd bout fish

    it's the level of passion she puts into them

    i mean, there's somethin' for everyone

    but for her its like fish

    ain't nothing odd about that at all
    like I said, fish are rad too bad you can't see that

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