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So, Orphan Black is the latest original series to air on BBCA, a joint production between them and Canada's Space. Season one is just about to finish up next week with 10 episodes under it's belt and, in that short amount of time, I have to say it is probably the best sci-fi series to come out in the past couple years.

So, what is it?

Sarah Manning, a 28-year-old con artist arrives back in town (probably Toronto, but never explicitly identified) to see her daughter Kira, left in the care of her estranged foster mother Siobhan. As she makes her way out of the station, she encounters a woman who is behaving strangely: carefully removing her shoes, setting down her belongings. She goes up to talk to her when the woman turns around, her face a near perfect mirror image of Sarah's own. Before Sarah can say anything however, the woman steps out in front of an oncoming train, dying instantly. In the commotion, Sarah steals her belongings and races off.

Sarah soon discovers that the woman, a police officer by the name of Beth Childs, has been holding onto a large sum of money. In desperate need of cash thanks to some shady dealings with some people she'd rather no longer associate with, Sarah decides to take the cash and run to start over with her foster brother Felix and Kira, but finds complications in the form of Beth's partner, Art, who holds the cash over her head to keep her head together while undergoing a department review of Beth for accidentally shoot a civilian; a shooting which he helped obfuscate the truth of from the department.

Sarah quickly finds out however that a blackmailing partner is the least of the strange things going on in Beth's life: she is soon confronted by a German woman whom Beth had been in contact with... another woman who looks exactly like her. Before The German can explain anything however, she is shot by a Sniper, leaving Sarah to panic. Thanks to the encounter, however, Beth soon makes contact with two other women who look exactly like her: Allison and Cosima, who tell her how they're connected: She, Allison, Cosima, Beth, the German and perhaps countless other women out there are all clones. Now, Sarah finds herself drawn into a world of illicit genetic experimentation and murder, trying to find out who is trying to kill her and her fellow clones all while trying to keep her daughter from being caught up in the chaos.

Characters
7iRijHu.jpgSarah Manning
Played by Tatiana Maslany
The primary protagonist of the series, Sarah is a [former?] con artist who's already turbulent life is rocked by the revelation that she is one of many clones, created for a purpose unknown to any of them so far. She assumes the identity of fellow clone Beth Childs after her death, initially planning to use Beth's life savings to skip town with foster-brother Felix and daughter Kira and start a new life away from an abusive ex-boyfriend, a drug dealer named Vic. But as she is drawn deeper into the mystery surrounding herself and the others, she finds herself bonding with them more than she previously expected.

2ybJ9k9.jpgCosima Niehaus
Played by Tatiana Maslany
Cosima is a graduate student working on her degree in Experimental Evolutionary Developmental Biology at the University of Minnesota. With her access to a lab and a helpful fellow grad student, Cosima has been digging into the clones genetics to find any information about themselves that she can. Perhaps the calmest of the clones about their newly discovered lot in life, Cosima has been vital to finding answers as to just what they may be.

CluNsLy.jpgAllison Hendrix
Played by Tatiana Maslany
Allison has probably been the clone to take the news of her... "clonedom" worst. A suburban soccermom, she would just rather the entire issue go away entirely, insisting that no one use the "c-word" around her. Initially extremely untrusting of Sarah, the two become closer when she learns about Kira and as Sarah proves herself a dependable source of support as her comfortable, middle class world comes apart. As well, she has developed a sibling-like relationship with Sarah's brother Felix.

t633AHZ.pngHelena
Played by Tatiana Maslany
Helena's past has, for most of the series, been a distinct mystery. Brought up in a convent, Helena has been raised to believe that she is the original from which all the clones were based and has been subject to physical and mental abuse likely her entire life. Upon meeting Sarah, she becomes convinced that there is a strong bond between them.

ueyeryY.pngFelix Dawkins
Played by Jordan Gavaris
An artist and hedonist, Felix ("Fee") is Sarah's Foster brother, most trusted confidant and generally her voice of reason, even though he often finds himself brought reluctantly into the chaos and having to cover for her. He is loyal to a fault to Sarah and his family, including the new extensions found in the "Clone Club." Recently, he's taken a rather brotherly role in Allison's life as the stress of being a clone and being hunted causes her to become increasingly paranoid about her superficially peaceful life. He can be somewhat reckless in his love life, having a fling or two with the technician he met at the morgue when he went down to identify Beth's body as Sarah.

p0REyi4.png"Mrs. S" [Siobhan Sadler]
Played by Maria Doyle Kennedy
Mrs. S. is foster mother to Sarah and Felix and is currently caring for Kira. A rather no-nonsense type, she's starkly disapproved of the con artist life that Sarah has chosen for herself and wants Kira to have no part of it, telling Sarah that she needs to provide a stable, safe life for her daughter. She was part of the punk culture during her youth in the UK, an ethos she passed down in part to Sarah. She brought Sarah and Felix to North America when they were young and raised them as her own ever since. Not a particular fan of Margaret Thatcher.

qP31pp1.pngArthur Bell
Played by Kevin Hanchard
Art is a detective with the metropolitan police department in the city where the story is based and Beth's partner on the force. Fiercely loyal to Beth, he doctored the scene where Beth accidentally shot a civilian by placing a phone in her hand to make it appear that Beth may have thought she'd drawn a weapon. With Sarah disguising herself as Beth, he begins to notice there's something off about his partner. He tries to push it to the back of his mind as they are assigned to investigate a dead body unearthed by construction work, an investigation that may unravel everything that Sarah is trying to hide.

tAhtwIp.pngPaul Dierden
Played by Dylan Bruce
Beth's boyfriend, she and Paul had been having trouble in their relationship recently before her death. However, with Sarah taking on Beth's identity, the two find themselves in a sexually charged relationship from the moment they meet. However, it turns out that Paul is hiding a secret of his own...

YxXvS5I.jpgDelphine Cormier
Played by Evelyne Brochu
A graduate student from France, Delphine attends the University of Minnesota alongside Cosima, who is instantly smitten with her. The two quickly take to one another and eventually begin a relationship. However, Cosima and the others suspect that Delphine may be interested in Cosima for more sinister reasons...

QbAQ8Zf.jpgDr. Aldous Leekie
Played by Matt Frewer
Dr. Leekie is a world-reknown scientist, popular author and public speaker. Leekie heads up the Dyad Institute which seeks to push the limits of humanity. He's a leader in a field that has been dubbed "Neolution," a directed form of advancing humanity through various forms of augmentation. Extremely popular, his work is nonetheless controversial among the public, with those who have volunteered for his research being dubbed "Freaky Leekies". However, it seems that his work runs deeper that most of his readers and the media realize...

Okay, so what makes this worth watching?
Orphan Black manages to combine the oft-used sci-fi conceit of cloning with a wonderful cast of characters to create a fantastic thriller. The show plays it's concept completely straight and is helped along by treating it's characters with a depth and care that makes them feel like real people. As an example, at first Sarah and Felix come across rather assholish, but as the series goes along, you see more to them than just the amoral con artist and conceited hedonist that they first seem to be: They're three dimensional people whose motivations make sense, people for whom you can understand where they're coming from. Thanks in no small part to the wonderful cast chosen for the show, who craft memorable performances every episode.

As well, for a show with so many places where it could go horribly wrong, it manages to completely avoid those pitfalls. I found myself thinking at one point that, if this was a Fox prime-time drama, we'd have probably had a full season of Sarah, as Beth, going out week after week solving mysterious murders vaguely and tangentially related to the overall mystery of the "whole clone thing," probably not even touching on the others until midway through the season. Instead, we have a tightly paced drama that refuses to pull it's punches (and when you think it does, it decides it's going to punch you deeper than you expected it to). For a series whose first season consists of only 10-episodes, it doesn't waste a single moment, moving forward on both plot and characterization on a consistent basis. There's not a scene I can think back to that felt like it was filler.

On top of that, perhaps the most impressive thing about the series is lead actress Tatiana Maslany's acting. Over the course of the series thusfar, she's played six different characters, none of whom blend together. Maslany's skills giving every one of them a life of their own; I easily find myself forgetting that it's Maslany playing each one, even when acting against herself. As well, the effects on the show that allow Maslany's characters to interact with one another in the same scene are impeccable, never giving a hint at the editing tricks required to make them work.

So... when is it on
There's one episode left this season, and will be airing on BBCA this Saturday at 9 Eastern. However, BBCA will be doing a marathon of the entire series leading up to it, so anyone who hasn't been able to see it will be able to catch it all in one go. Additionally, they've put up the first episode (in HD) for free up on iTunes, with the rest of the series up for sale. If you've missed it so far, they're good ways to catch up on the series.

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    FlarnaFlarna Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    It's a fun show. And you're right about Maslany. Even when she plays as one of the clones impersonating one of the others, you can still feel she's retaining something of the "true" clone she's playing.

    Oh, and we need more shows where Max Headroom is the villain.

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    Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    Yes, We probably should have an Orphan Black thread. Seriously its great.

    Its on BBC America, so its got a real British feel to it, with action sequences being low key and personal. Funniest part is that its obviously set in Canada, but never specifically mentions it.

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    I watched the first ~3 episodes. Nothing happened, none of the characters were interesting at all, the mystery was neither mysterious nor intriguing, and the music was a little annoying. The whole thing seemed like an excuse to give Tatiana Maslany the chance to act! all over the place.

    So, uh, does it actually get any better? Because the clones conspiracy thing is about as played out a concept as you can get.

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    I dunno... i think the show is pretty good. Its true that in sci fi the whole clone storyline is a bit played out but they seem to be pulling it off successfuly.

    As far as nothing happening... maybe thats true three episodes in; but i was going to say the exact opposite. Im pleased with the amount of plot progression so far. A lot of other shows would have stagnated and dragged things out that this show has resolved in a few episodes.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Page- wrote: »
    I watched the first ~3 episodes. Nothing happened, none of the characters were interesting at all, the mystery was neither mysterious nor intriguing, and the music was a little annoying. The whole thing seemed like an excuse to give Tatiana Maslany the chance to act! all over the place.

    So, uh, does it actually get any better? Because the clones conspiracy thing is about as played out a concept as you can get.

    I'm going to guess that if you disliked the first three episodes, you probably won't enjoy the rest.

    I'm a bit confused on your "nothing happened" complaint though, considering that a good bit does happen across those three. At the very least:
    -Sarah witnesses Beth's death
    -Sarah assumes Beth's identity to steal her savings
    - Sarah meets The German
    - The German is killed right behind her by sniper
    - Beth meets Allison and Cosima, discovers they're all clones
    - reveal that the killer is another clone from the program

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    Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Pretty much all of that was in the first 1.5 episodes. The part about the killer didn't happen, but still isn't that interesting. Not a big deal, I just saw some sites gushing over it and wanted to see what the deal was.

    Maybe it was partly that I didn't watch any of the ads, which apparently played up the clone thing from the start. In the first episode there's none of that, and nothing grabbed me. I only watched another because I was hoping something interesting would happen, and it didn't, so I moved on. Maybe after it's done if the ending turns out to be not terrible I'll go back.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Marathon and Season Finale today!

    Also, Grantland had a pretty good article up about the show

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    THE FORGOTTEN CHILD OF BASIC CABLE
    Orphan Black, the Pre-Recap-Era Throwback Sci-Fi Show You Should Catch Up With
    By Todd VanDerWerff on May 30, 2013 3:30 PM ET

    The early-to-mid '90s were the best time to be a fan of TV sci-fi. That’s not to say that’s when all the best TV science fiction shows were airing, since nothing could be further from the truth, but it was a time when there were enough sci-fi shows worth discussing — The X-Files, first and foremost, but also the final seasons of Star Trek: The Next Generation, the beginning of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Babylon 5, the Hercules/Xena franchise, any number of one-season oddities on Fox, etc. — and the beginnings of widespread acceptance of a way to discuss them.

    Before the Internet’s gradual takeover of American society (a process that roughly coincided with the run of X-Files), if a Star Trek fan wanted to discuss that show, he had better hope he knew somebody who watched or had a local convention to attend. In the early days of the Internet, though, “build your own homepage” sites like GeoCities and Angelfire created havens for television discussion that would presage the recap-driven era of TV criticism we live in now. And, this being the Internet, those sites usually were built around shows with heavy science-fiction elements. (King of the TV recaps Alan Sepinwall got his start writing episodic reviews of a non-genre show — NYPD Blue — but he’ll freely admit that he got the idea from old Usenet reviews of TNG by Timothy W. Lynch.)

    It may seem strange to have nostalgia for those early days of the Internet, but going back to the days when a Sarah Stegall or Autumn Tysko would breathlessly review every episode of X-Files after it aired is a reminder of just how revolutionary the Internet seemed in the mid-'90s, how much it seemed as if it would connect all the lonely fans, who loved this weird, out-of-the-way show but couldn’t find anybody with whom to talk to about it. And then their phone lines came alive and seemed to deliver those people into their home offices or living rooms. To browse through those early days — or what’s left of them, anyway — is to see a bunch of people realizing their weird pop culture affections need no longer be private.

    We’ve gotten away from that, for what are obvious reasons. Now seemingly every site on the Internet employs somebody to write about Mad Men or Game of Thrones, and if you look hard enough, you can find weekly recaps of just about every show on the programming guide, with boisterous comments sections to go along with them. Even a show as low-rated as HBO’s Enlightened prompted intense reaction when the network canceled it, to the degree that it sometimes seemed like more people were upset about its cancellation than had watched it to begin with. The process that began in the mid-'90s has reached its logical end, and we now live in the world of niches.

    It’s been particularly fascinating, then, to watch the rise of BBC America’s terrific original series (co-produced with Canada’s Space channel) Orphan Black and feel something of a return to that era when most weekly TV reviews were being carried out by fans. To be sure, there are more than a few professional sites that write weekly reviews of the show. (I work for one of them.) But the series has rather limited viewership — regularly dipping below 500,000 viewers — and outside of a richly deserved Critics' Choice Award nomination for its star, Tatiana Maslany, the show seems to have slid out of the critical consciousness after an initial batch of mixed-to-positive reviews. It’s a creature of the Internet now, and that’s where its biggest fans live.

    To be sure, almost all of this has to do with the fact that the show airs on Saturday, the least-viewed night of the TV week. If Orphan Black aired even on Friday, there would likely be slightly more attention paid to it at most mainstream publications. (See also: Fringe.) But the combination of its out-of-the-way time slot and its intensely geeky science fiction conceit — which, without spoiling too much, involves a young woman discovering a secret twin she never knew she had and spirals outward from there in ways both predictable and gloriously unexpected — makes it feel like a cultish secret shared among a few viewers, all of whom are intensely devoted to it and all of whom must turn to the Internet to find anyone who’s ever even heard of it.

    It’s worth stating that none of this would be the case if Orphan Black weren’t as good as it is. The show’s plotting is tightly serialized, but outside of a few missteps near the middle of this first season (which ends on Saturday), its overriding mythology hasn’t threatened to completely swallow the show whole. And as central character Sarah — and a host of others — Maslany is giving one of TV’s two or three best performances, a daring tightrope walk between being over-the-top and gimmicky and incredibly naturalistic while playing seven or eight different characters, at least four of them “regulars.”

    The rest of the regular cast is very good — particularly Jordan Gavaris as Sarah’s best friend and foster brother, Felix — but this is Maslany’s show, and she’s electrifying, switching between personas with ease and sometimes even switching between personas pretending to be other personas with an acute understanding of just what each character would immediately start mimicking in another. And here’s another link to those mid-'90s shows: Like David Duchovny, Gillian Anderson, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Jennifer Garner, and many others before her, Orphan Black’s fan base has incredible devotion to Maslany for offering a performance of this caliber in a genre where many other actors get away with coasting. They hope and believe she’s a star in the making, but for now, she’s theirs.

    What’s more, the show effectively splits into several different shows, depending on which Maslany viewers are following at the time. Soccer Mom Maslany stars in a heightened suburban soap opera with acid wit and satirical bent. Graduate Student Maslany stars in a goofy, winning science fiction story about genetic manipulation and the future of the species. Sarah, who assumes the identity of the aforementioned secret twin in the first minute of the first episode, stars in a surprisingly thrilling cop show crossed with an overriding mystery. (Who is killing the many Maslanys? And why?) Still another character is at the center of a tale of horror, torture, and woe, a sort of Gothic novel update for the post–Human Genome Project era. And the list goes on, to incorporate even more shows and styles of shows, depending on which version of herself Sarah bumps into that week.

    It’s that element of being all things to all people that gives Orphan Black its final connection to the mid-'90s sci-fi shows that started the TV recap boom. At all times, Orphan Black is skating narrowly ahead of being absolutely and utterly terrible. Maslany’s performance can only do so much, and the show will toss in things like a lab assistant raising his eyebrows suggestively at two women kissing in front of him, plucky music bubbling away on the soundtrack to let viewers know this is all supposed to be cheeky fun, or some of the broader scenes in that suburban satire, which occasionally feel like Desperate Housewives run amok. There’s also the fact that almost all of the budget has seemingly been devoted to making sure the many Maslanys overlap believably, leading to cheesy production values elsewhere. The show never looks bad, but when compared to the big-money values of something like the far worse Revolution, Orphan Black can look like it’s been thrown together with whatever spare change creators Graeme Manson and John Fawcett found in their cars before shooting that day.

    But that was the case with early X-Files or Xena: Warrior Princess, too: It would have been so easy for either of those shows to be so bad, and that other, far worse version of each show poked through just often enough to provide ample opportunity for fan snark. Yet those shows inspired the kind of cult, fannish devotion Orphan Black has for the simplest, most potent similarity of all: They understood that story and character came first, that excitement and thrills are all well and good, but they only work if you give a shit about the people who are in harm’s way. To be sure, there are interesting ideas in Orphan Black, about what it means to be an individual, what events in our lives make each of us who we are, and even what the roots of human sexuality are, but at its heart, this is a series about a woman who finds herself confronted with that which would dehumanize her and fights back to assert her very sense of self in the face of technology that would reduce her to a mindless automaton. Is it any wonder the Internet loves this show?

    Todd VanDerWerff is the TV editor of The A.V. Club. His writing also appears in the Los Angeles Times.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Also, it appears Patton Oswalt really loves the show: https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt
    Patton Oswalt
    Seriously, @tatianamaslany is doing some Rylance/Mirren-level, game-changing acting in this thing. #OrphanBlack
    about 7 hours ago from web

    Patton Oswalt
    I quit. @tatianamaslany is an actor. Like Daniel Day-Lewis, Mark Rylance & @LauraDern are actors. I take up space in TV shows & movies.
    41 minutes ago from Twitter for iPhone

    Patton Oswalt
    And now I'm caught up on @OrphanBlack . Watching the season finale tomorrow night. NOT live-Tweeting. You deserve the surprises.
    16 minutes ago from Twitter for iPhone

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    saint2esaint2e Registered User regular
    Huge fan of the show. Looking forward to the Season Finale. It has it's flaws, but on the whole it's a fantastic show.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Season Finale in 45 minutes :D

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Hoooooooooooooooly fuck.

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    EtiowsaEtiowsa Registered User regular
    Yeah, that got real fucked up real quick. I think Allison is my favorite of the bunch. She's got the crazy suburbanite thing down real good.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Etiowsa wrote: »
    Yeah, that got real fucked up real quick. I think Allison is my favorite of the bunch. She's got the crazy suburbanite thing down real good.

    The Scene with
    Ainsley and the garbage disposal
    was absolutely horrifying for me
    Seeing that Allison's been pushed to the point of paranoia where she lets her best friend choke to death because she's terrified she's her watcher and wants her to pay for destroying her life was.... fucking hell.

    It's gonna be a long wait to 2014 isn't it?

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    EtiowsaEtiowsa Registered User regular
    Lanz wrote: »
    Etiowsa wrote: »
    Yeah, that got real fucked up real quick. I think Allison is my favorite of the bunch. She's got the crazy suburbanite thing down real good.

    The Scene with
    Ainsley and the garbage disposal
    was absolutely horrifying for me
    Seeing that Allison's been pushed to the point of paranoia where she lets her best friend choke to death because she's terrified she's her watcher and wants her to pay for destroying her life was.... fucking hell.

    It's gonna be a long wait to 2014 isn't it?

    Yeah, I was freaking the fuck out that entire time. Like, holy shit craziness.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Etiowsa wrote: »
    Lanz wrote: »
    Etiowsa wrote: »
    Yeah, that got real fucked up real quick. I think Allison is my favorite of the bunch. She's got the crazy suburbanite thing down real good.

    The Scene with
    Ainsley and the garbage disposal
    was absolutely horrifying for me
    Seeing that Allison's been pushed to the point of paranoia where she lets her best friend choke to death because she's terrified she's her watcher and wants her to pay for destroying her life was.... fucking hell.

    It's gonna be a long wait to 2014 isn't it?

    Yeah, I was freaking the fuck out that entire time. Like, holy shit craziness.

    She's going to have a break down when
    she finally finds out Donny's her monitor, isn't she?

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    Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    This show is fucking fantastic and Tatiana Maslany is the best actress(hell, actor!) on TV.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    This show is fucking fantastic and Tatiana Maslany is the best actress(hell, actor!) on TV.

    Which was confirmed when she won the Television Critics Association award for Individual Achievement in Drama.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Still sucks that she didn't even get nominated for an Emmy

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    Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    Etiowsa wrote: »
    Lanz wrote: »
    Etiowsa wrote: »
    Yeah, that got real fucked up real quick. I think Allison is my favorite of the bunch. She's got the crazy suburbanite thing down real good.

    The Scene with
    Ainsley and the garbage disposal
    was absolutely horrifying for me
    Seeing that Allison's been pushed to the point of paranoia where she lets her best friend choke to death because she's terrified she's her watcher and wants her to pay for destroying her life was.... fucking hell.

    It's gonna be a long wait to 2014 isn't it?

    Yeah, I was freaking the fuck out that entire time. Like, holy shit craziness.
    I really felt awful for the neighbor once we learned she wasn't the monitor. I mean, looking at the season's events from her perspective, all of a sudden without warning her friend just went insane, fucked her husband, basically destroyed her life to the point where she was going to move away, and then killed her (okay, let her die through inaction, same difference). Kinda brutal.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Lanz wrote: »
    Still sucks that she didn't even get nominated for an Emmy

    Absolutely no surprise though. Pretty much everything was working against her except the critics.

    Also, it's worth noting that the TCA Awards are gender neutral, so she beat Cranston.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    Just finished the finale.

    HOLY SHIT is it April yet?

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    That was what, 25 hours?

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    Almost exactly.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    So Maslany got a two episode guest spot on Parks and Rec, because they're huge nerds over there.

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    I think the show is actually supposed to be in NYC, but it clearly doesn't look like it.

    Also, glad this thread was updated, so now I have something to check when S2 starts airing.

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    MyiagrosMyiagros Registered User regular
    I remember the first episode saying something about New York or New Jersey at the train station, then a couple episodes later there are Ontario license plates everywhere and Scarborough mentions.

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    I dont remember it ever being explicitly said which city it is in, but it is clearly Toronto. Im just going to assume that is where it is supposed to take place.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Does the Canadian government hire idiotic military contractors for their participation in Afghanistan? Because I feel like that's a very, very American thing and something the Canadians are smart enough to avoid. Otherwise yeah it's obviously Toronto. Or Paul's an immigrant.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Does the Canadian government hire idiotic military contractors for their participation in Afghanistan? Because I feel like that's a very, very American thing and something the Canadians are smart enough to avoid. Otherwise yeah it's obviously Toronto. Or Paul's an immigrant.
    I figured he was a US soldier blackmailed by whatever corporation is behind this whole thing, his day job being a front by said corporation, so not sure if the Canadian government factors in much?[/spoiler

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    LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    Does the Canadian government hire idiotic military contractors for their participation in Afghanistan? Because I feel like that's a very, very American thing and something the Canadians are smart enough to avoid. Otherwise yeah it's obviously Toronto. Or Paul's an immigrant.

    Yes of course, in a show about clones, the Canadian governments predilection towards hiring former American soldiers is where believability falters...

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    It absolutely is set in Toronto. They aren't even trying to hide it. The train station said New York because that's where the train was coming from.

    edit: Proof

    The hotel Katja was staying at is advertised as being in "Downtown Toronto" (you can see it on the screen when they're running her credit card) and Alison, in Scarborough, is "practically local"

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Show is re-airing Saturdays starting tomorrow on BBCA.

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Necro-bump to say that S2's premiere has been officially announced for April 19th.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zCNJG07i-g

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    Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    Tatiana Maslany finally got nominated for something. Granted, it's a Golden Globe, but, still, finally some sort of recognition is pretty cool.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    The still on that preview still hasn't stopped making me laugh.

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    Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    The still on that preview still hasn't stopped making me laugh.

    Seriously, I laughed when I first came to the thread this morning after it was added, and it made me chuckle seeing it again after you bumped the thread.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    So we're 10 days away from the season premiere. Saturday at 8 BBCA is doing a season one recap/interview thing with Maslany and some famous fans of the show like Patton Oswalt.

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    Wooooo :D

    Also for BBCA folks after the season premier they're doing that new science fiction documentary series which looks interesting :O

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