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[Scrolls] A trading based miniatures game

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  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    godmode wrote: »
    Sounds more like Gandalf got extremely lucky

    I accept your challenge.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    Just FYI, I noticed that the trials could be really tough with the precon decks, at least my growth deck anyway. And I've seen more than one person point out that you really need to get some boosters in the precon deck to deal with some of the stuff the trials will throw at you.

    I noticed with a couple extra cards I had a much easier time of things. The other part is that some cards have synergy that might not be totally apparent. I thought the nutrition card was stupid until I saw some dude use it to pull out an early Jarl on me.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    The other part is that some cards have synergy that might not be totally apparent. I thought the nutrition card was stupid until I saw some dude use it to pull out an early Jarl on me.

    Yeah, some things make you go oooh and then you have a new toy in your arsenal.

    I have a Magma Pack (double the attack value, kill creature after it attacks) I use to kill heavy hitters when I can, as long as they're not Relentless and will rampage through my entire line.

  • xyceresxyceres Registered User regular
    In case people don't know if you go to the scrolls site and hit community it links to a bunch of sites/youtube channels/at least 2 wikis that pretty much all contain good information. (They see me scrollin's and Blinky's youtube channels are my favourites)

    Also I feel order requires more game knowledge to do well with (setting up formations and using them to kill things effectively, how to abuse the cd reduction for maximum effect on an honorable general without losing it etc). I honestly would not suggest it to a new player in fact the only precon I would suggest is energy, the other two just miss some important cards (and they can be really hard to get for growth).

    For instance growth is missing god hand, and quake. God hand or rally is a good way to finish the game once you get the upperhand but you only have 2 rallys in the deck. Quake is necessary to pull a game back to an even stance if the enemy gets the upper hand and is about the only way a growth player can do this (Frost gale can do it really early but It's difficult to pull off)

    Order only has one blessing of haste (and no speed) so it's hard to abuse the honorable general you get. Which is basically all you need to make that deck much better and as there are very few order players you should be able to trade for it easier.

    Energy however has a ridiculous amount of control spells in the precon (Woo burn!) which is good as there start slow. Couple this with 1x iron ogre and 2x cannon automation (along with bombard and concentrate fire) you have a few good ways to finish the game once you get the upperhand. Also trading would be easier than growth as everyone seems to want the growth rares.

    Granted I play growth and haven't messed with the other two yet so I am a little biased.

  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    I'm gonna make a bunny deck, swear to god.

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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    Needs more God Hands pls.

    My SteamID Gamertag and PSN: TheLawinator
  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I'm tenacious. I'll make this damn thing work or I'll buy so many packs I'll make another deck.

    Seidkona on
    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
    XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Fuck that death from above trial. I feel like as growth, it is almost entirely dependent on the first few draws you pull. If you can't start taking out those cannons before the AI builds up an economy, you are well and truly fucked.

    Dark_Side on
    Geth
  • xyceresxyceres Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Fuck that death from above trial. I feel like as growth, it is almost entirely dependent on the first few draws you pull. If you can't start taking out those cannons before the AI builds up an economy, you are well and truly fucked.

    quake makes it a lot easier but yea it's hard with the precon growth deck.

  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Fuck that death from above trial. I feel like as growth, it is almost entirely dependent on the first few draws you pull. If you can't start taking out those cannons before the AI builds up an economy, you are well and truly fucked.

    This is how I finally killed it:
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    Not Growth, though I'm starting to blend some of the low-cost scrolls in.

    Some general observations:

    1) Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. See the automaton in the upper-left of his field? That little fucker was a problem, because he had the upper half of the field so covered with lobbers of various stripes that I could never keep anything alive in that area long enough to kill it. It single-handedly did most of the damage to those two idols I lost. But then, he fucked up: he blocked it in. And I stalwartly refused to even try to kill those lobbers, because they couldn't touch my idols, so as long as I stayed out of that section of the field, they were dead weight.

    2) Enchantments stack. Two Vengeance on a General, followed by a Kabonk? It's some fucked up shit, man.

    3) Almost dead is still alive. There was one point when I could have sacrificed some mans to protect the middle idol, but I didn't. As long as I stayed strong in the south end and didn't let him clear the second row of those lobbers, he couldn't touch any of the three remaining idols. That's the point where I started to snowball, gradually keeping my guys alive longer and longer, keeping his machine priests on lockdown, and building up a full hand. Know when to fold 'em.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited June 2013
    3) Almost dead is still alive. There was one point when I could have sacrificed some mans to protect the middle idol, but I didn't. As long as I stayed strong in the south end and didn't let him clear the second row of those lobbers, he couldn't touch any of the three remaining idols. That's the point where I started to snowball, gradually keeping my guys alive longer and longer, keeping his machine priests on lockdown, and building up a full hand. Know when to fold 'em.

    Yeah, there's definitely a skill in knowing when you need to let some hits through instead of soaking them with your mans so you can use said mans to strike back even harder. Very often you can ignore units for several turns.

    Echo on
  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    Board presence > idols. Saccing an idol to the eventual weardown from a stupid little weak unit over the course of 15 turns is better than bogging yourself down.

    My SteamID Gamertag and PSN: TheLawinator
    GumpyEchoDruhim
  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited June 2013
    The game needs retroactive achivements, because I just took out all five idols. smug.gif

    edit: had three Cannon Automatons on the board, enemy had 5/5/10 on his last three idols. Swept the board, popped Concentrated Fire on one automaton to deal with the full-health idol, nuked them.

    Echo on
  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    Here is my secret aggro strat:

    1. be growth
    2. put all of your stuff in the middle
    3. pick the side that has less enemy stuff on it, sac the other side
    4. be the greatest scroller

    My SteamID Gamertag and PSN: TheLawinator
  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    Here is my secret aggro strat:

    1. be growth
    2. put all of your stuff in the middle
    3. pick the side that has less enemy stuff on it, sac the other side
    4. be the greatest scroller

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Yeah, I want me some of those.

  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    Gumpy wrote: »
    Gumpy wrote: »
    Here is my secret aggro strat:

    1. be growth
    2. put all of your stuff in the middle
    3. pick the side that has less enemy stuff on it, sac the other side
    4. be the greatest scroller

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    It doesn't work against people who have paid to win.

    My SteamID Gamertag and PSN: TheLawinator
  • BadwrongBadwrong TokyoRegistered User regular
    So I installed Scrolls on a windows 8 tablet. Plays really well. Only issue is you have to go windowed mode or plug in a USB keyboard in order to type in password to login.

    Steam: Badwrong || Xbox: Duncan Dohnuts || PSN: Buc_wild

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    Oh god growth players have found out about Quake

    My terrifying reign may be about to come to a swift end

  • xyceresxyceres Registered User regular
    Gumpy wrote: »
    Oh god growth players have found out about Quake

    My terrifying reign may be about to come to a swift end

    I still need quake but not sure how often I'd actually use it. Only had 2-3 matches so far that I thought it'd be good in.

  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Fuck that death from above trial. I feel like as growth, it is almost entirely dependent on the first few draws you pull. If you can't start taking out those cannons before the AI builds up an economy, you are well and truly fucked.

    This is how I finally killed it:
    GeneralBadass_zps501bf7df.jpg

    Not Growth, though I'm starting to blend some of the low-cost scrolls in.

    Some general observations:

    1) Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. See the automaton in the upper-left of his field? That little fucker was a problem, because he had the upper half of the field so covered with lobbers of various stripes that I could never keep anything alive in that area long enough to kill it. It single-handedly did most of the damage to those two idols I lost. But then, he fucked up: he blocked it in. And I stalwartly refused to even try to kill those lobbers, because they couldn't touch my idols, so as long as I stayed out of that section of the field, they were dead weight.

    2) Enchantments stack. Two Vengeance on a General, followed by a Kabonk? It's some fucked up shit, man.

    3) Almost dead is still alive. There was one point when I could have sacrificed some mans to protect the middle idol, but I didn't. As long as I stayed strong in the south end and didn't let him clear the second row of those lobbers, he couldn't touch any of the three remaining idols. That's the point where I started to snowball, gradually keeping my guys alive longer and longer, keeping his machine priests on lockdown, and building up a full hand. Know when to fold 'em.

    I finally took it through a very slow and calculated buildup. There's like 3 spots the lobbers can't hit at first. Opening with a Vaettr of the Wild gave me that free growth (which was a huge help) and he stuck around since the lobbers couldn't hit him. Got some wolves out, combo-ed them with a great wolf and a a buffed sister, and finally had enough damage to take out machines faster than the AI could drop em.

  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    So I got the update and now, somewhat ironically, I'm getting the "game freezes when opponent summons a unit" bug every single game I try to play. Have they addressed this issue anywhere? Is there some setting I need to change?

  • Burning OrganBurning Organ Registered User regular
    Fucking trials ai keep stacking ancient druid tombs or whatever.
    Also the trials seem to be a bit of luck as well, got slaughtered one round due to bad draws, next round the ai only got buildings and buffs for the first 15 turns.

  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    Another thing about the Death From Above trial: Those mortar cannons are actually not a big deal, really. They can't hit your idols, and they're quite unlikely to even hit any of your guys, unless you have a lot of guys.

    And if you have a lot of guys, you're probably winning anyway.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Yeah, I use my mortars as big fat front-row walls that happen to every once in a blue moon nuke the crap out of something.

    GumpyGandalf_the_Crazed
  • Burning OrganBurning Organ Registered User regular
    God, fuck these trials, the AI seems to have the best fucking cards.
    Work up enough resources to finally get a good unit on the field? Oh, this card means I can throw it back in your deck. Desperately trying to block that idol that will die in the next attack with a building? No problem, I can move that anywhere I want.
    Trying to save your last idol with your last unit that is crazy buffed to withstand all these attack? Don't worry, I can't put that back in your deck.
    But you can be damn sure I can slide it down a hex.

    Why do they give the AI a deck that just fucks with you?

  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    Every trick they use is a creature they didn't play. Best way of beating a deck like that is overpowering it when 3/4 cost units. What resource are you playing?

  • Burning OrganBurning Organ Registered User regular
    Nature or growth or whatever. Filthy hippies.
    Need to put the useless fox units back in mah deck then.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Useless? Oh now it's on.

  • Burning OrganBurning Organ Registered User regular
    What.... What is on?

  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    Sister of the fox is awesome. Its a free creature (free in cards) that can be boosted, block, detonate mines, do all that creature stuff without putting you behind.

    EchoDruhim
  • Burning OrganBurning Organ Registered User regular
    What I really want is some of those druid tombs or whatever.
    I've seen the AI stack them.
    It's fucking nasty.

  • GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    Tombs make wonderful walls. Far better then scrapyards! They'll upset energy players

  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    People keep conceding fast and then I only get like 30 gold. This sucks.

    My SteamID Gamertag and PSN: TheLawinator
    Echo
  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    People keep conceding fast and then I only get like 30 gold. This sucks.

    Heh, I just had the other version happen. Order dude makes some big mistakes blowing all his enchants on his general, which I just lock in place with a dryadic power and promptly ignore. (Even worse he had already spawned his other general and lost it.) Game is over by about round 20, but he decides to just stall it out. Even going so far as to let the timer tick down when on the last round because he knows he's going to finally lose.

  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    I knew I fucked up a game and wasn't going to recover, so I buffed the other guy's units.

    My SteamID Gamertag and PSN: TheLawinator
    Julien MarcheGandalf_the_Crazed
  • Julien MarcheJulien Marche Registered User regular
    I knew I fucked up a game and wasn't going to recover, so I buffed the other guy's units.

    That is quite gentlemanly of you. I like it.

    I like apple dumplings.
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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Made a Google spreadsheet of things I have spares of up for trade. I just need to decide what I want to trade them for.

    I probably want to stock up on Memorials of all flavors.

  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    Buying this game may have been a mistake.

    It is now all I want to do.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Things I think I've figured out: things attack in order of frontmost row to back row, then top to bottom. That shit matters.

    Gandalf_the_Crazed
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