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TossrockTossrock too weird to livetoo rare to dieRegistered User regular
edited June 2013 in Social Entropy++
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So I guess it's a big deal now that the NSA spies on American citizens? Yesterday a court order granting the NSA access to all call meta-data (number, duration, location, etc) from Verizon's business customers was leaked to The Guardian. According to Diane Feinstein, chair of the Intelligence committee, this has been going on for 7 years and is totally legal guys, don't worry about it:
I just had an opportunity to review the Guardian article and I’d like to make the following points.
As far as I know, this is the exact three month renewal of what has been the case for the past seven years. This renewal is carried out by the FISA Court under the business records section of the Patriot Act. Therefore, it is lawful.

Just today, slides pertaining to a program called PRISM, which involved collaboration between the NSA and major internet companies were leaked. The companies involved all swear up and down that they have nothing to do with it, but I mean, that's kinda what they'd have to say, isn't it?

For those in the know, this isn't exactly new news, what with the taps they installed at AT&T backbone switching centers so they could take copies of literally every email sent within America back in 2003 and store it in their yottabyte scale datacenter out in Utah. While this may have been illegal at the time, for their servitude AT&T was granted a papal indulgence retroactive immunity by the FISA amendment bill in 2008. "Doesn't retroactive immunity undermine the rule of law?", you might wonder... if you're a thoughtcriminal.

Let's all discuss living in a dystopian surveillance state where privacy is reserved for the government!

Addendum: lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6fnfVJzZT4

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Yeah, but google is so cool and hip. They pledged to not be evil!

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    remember: no politics

  • CorporateRedCorporateRed Wooooooo! Registered User regular
    This is all perfectly legit, and there's nothing to worry about.

    Anyone that doesn't realize this is some sort of freedom-hating communist puppykiller, and they need to be reported to the authorities immediately.

    Steam ID: Corporate Red
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  • Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    As one who has been known to subscribe to various conspiracy theories:

    Duh.

  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    praise muhammad

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    HOLA DEA

  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    look, I've been telling you guys this whole time, the human race was a bad idea and we should all just go back to being monkeys

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    look, I've been telling you guys this whole time, the human race was a bad idea and we should all just go back to being monkeys

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JdS-sSKsBc

  • CorporateRedCorporateRed Wooooooo! Registered User regular
    Maybe we could be robots instead? Cyborgs, perhaps?

    Steam ID: Corporate Red
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  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    The whole FISA court system seems somewhat ludicrous to me.

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  • FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    Hey, I have a friend in the NSA

    Maybe he can make his friends back off

  • MachwingMachwing It looks like a harmless old computer, doesn't it? Left in this cave to rot ... or to flower!Registered User regular
  • GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    Maybe we could be robots instead? Cyborgs, perhaps?

    It's about damn time!

  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Let's all discuss living in a dystopian surveillance state where privacy is reserved for the government!

    I hate to say this dude, but you're coming off as totally paranoi-
    About one of every four of those killed by drones in Pakistan between Sept. 3, 2010, and Oct. 30, 2011, were classified as "other militants,” the documents detail. The “other militants” label was used when the CIA could not determine the affiliation of those killed, prompting questions about how the agency could conclude they were a threat to U.S. national security.

  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    reminder that we live in a world with flying death robots

  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    I'm kinda on the verge of being okay with the idea of relatively zero online privacy. I can see how it might weird folks out though.

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  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    Bombs Allah 9/11 Salmon-flavored panties.

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
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    Sneak-and-Peek
    Delayed-notice search warrants issued under the expanded powers of the Patriot Act, 2006–2009.

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    The whole FISA court system seems somewhat ludicrous to me.

    hilariously, the FISA court itself only came after the sort of widespread inquest into the massive abuses of the intelligence community that itself seems impossible to exist anymore (the Church Committee of the 1970s)

  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    It's a pretty awesome world we live in where the US government basically monitors everything everywhere, and has flying death robots kill people it think may or may not be bad guys based on where they're hanging out.

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  • Day of the BearDay of the Bear The Qun demandsRegistered User regular
    buncha freedom hatin terrorists itt

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  • MachwingMachwing It looks like a harmless old computer, doesn't it? Left in this cave to rot ... or to flower!Registered User regular
    You don't need privacy if you're not a criminal, right?

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    The idea that "2600" would get anyone flagged for anything other than slow office day spook harassment is just...

  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    man at least we got ipads I guess

    that part of the future's ok

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    Just about the only good thing I can see from this is how it comes from a source people already distrust to varying degrees. Not at all like with google, whose generally high quality of service and positive imagine completely overshadows any other actions they may perform where the general public is concerned. PR works, folks. But maybe in this scenario people will actually pay attention to how scary this shit is.

    Maybe.

  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    Also I like how "flu" is a keyword.

    Also, some of the natural disaster ones are pretty funny.

    Are the terrorists working on tornado generators now?

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  • MachwingMachwing It looks like a harmless old computer, doesn't it? Left in this cave to rot ... or to flower!Registered User regular
    I guess we could start, I don't know, dazzle camo'ing anything we put up on the internet?

    Just a forum where every post is in the form of a captcha

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    Just about the only good thing I can see from this is how it comes from a source people already distrust to varying degrees. Not at all like with google, whose generally high quality of service and positive imagine completely overshadows any other actions they may perform where the general public is concerned. PR works, folks. But maybe in this scenario people will actually pay attention to how scary this shit is.

    Maybe.

    hahaha nope

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    It's a pretty awesome world we live in where the US government basically monitors everything everywhere, and has flying death robots kill people it think may or may not be bad guys based on where they're hanging out.

    it's like how star trek was looking into the future and they couldn't even imagine what smart phones would be capable of

    dystopian writers severely underestimated what would actually occur in the Grim Cyber-Future of 2013

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    In other news, it was so smart for the Subway in San Diego to start offering pork sandwiches.

    U.S. consulate

  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    In other news, it was so smart for the Subway in San Diego to start offering pork sandwiches.

    U.S. consulate

    reported for possible terrorist activity

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    The idea that "2600" would get anyone flagged for anything other than slow office day spook harassment is just...

    You gotta always keep an eye out on Atari

  • Day of the BearDay of the Bear The Qun demandsRegistered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    In other news, it was so smart for the Subway in San Diego to start offering pork sandwiches.

    U.S. consulate

    reported for possible terrorist activity

    Just what a terrorist would do!

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    YaYa wrote: »
    reminder that we live in a world with flying death robots

    well hey come on, death is only one of their many functions

    let's not pigeonhole the flying death robots

  • MachwingMachwing It looks like a harmless old computer, doesn't it? Left in this cave to rot ... or to flower!Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    It's a pretty awesome world we live in where the US government basically monitors everything everywhere, and has flying death robots kill people it think may or may not be bad guys based on where they're hanging out.

    it's like how star trek was looking into the future and they couldn't even imagine what smart phones would be capable of

    dystopian writers severely underestimated what would actually occur in the Grim Cyber-Future of 2013

    I dunno, Brave New World and 1984 combined (brave new world for us, 1984 for the browns) make for a pretty accurate portrayal of things

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  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    In other news, it was so smart for the Subway in San Diego to start offering pork sandwiches.

    U.S. consulate

    reported for possible terrorist activity

    Just what a terrorist would do!

    Look, I am on record as being INCREDIBLY LOYAL to FRIEND NSA COMPUTER

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  • Day of the BearDay of the Bear The Qun demandsRegistered User regular
    ket "i love al qaeda and hate freedom" bra

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Michael Hayden is one of the biggest pieces of shit alive:

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