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[PA Comic] Friday, June 14, 2013 - Glasshole

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edited June 2013 in The Penny Arcade Hub
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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    Gotta say, I don't really see the difference between a cell phone and Google Glass, as far as privacy is concerned.

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    If you hold your cell phone up in front of your face constantly, then sure.

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  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Is Google Glass the Eye-Phone from Futurama?

    For real, I don't know what it does. It looks like it's just a small camera that that you wear on your face... I wonder if Mike had that lasik procedure specifically because he was getting Google Glass :P

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  • RottonappleRottonapple Registered User regular
    "Glasshole" another PAism right up there with "Bullshot"

  • Man in the MistsMan in the Mists Registered User regular
    Don't forget GIFT (Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory). That's a great PA contribution to the internet.

  • ani_game_bumani_game_bum Optimistic, Rule-Breaking Nice Guy The Final World/DestinationRegistered User regular
    Comic is probably related to Gabe's revelation he had while using Glass and posted about it, listed below for your convenience:
    Gabe wrote:
    ...the biggest problem I have with Glass is wearing it around. I’ve tried to wear it out in public a few times and it’s incredibly strange. At first I thought I was just embarrassed to be wearing this goofy computer on my head but this morning I realised it’s more than that. Our current office is on the second floor of a larger building with multiple tenants. Downstairs is a daycare and when I arrive in the morning for work I see a lot of parents dropping their kids off. As I was walking in today I heard the front door open and I quickly slid my Glass down off my head and slung it around my neck. A woman passed me by and I gave her a polite smile. As I got inside the building I moved the Glass back up to my head but I realised the reason I took it off was because I didn’t want to be rude.

    I was not embarrassed or worried she would think I was a dork. I AM a dork! What I was worried about was being rude. I feel like walking around with a camera pointed at people even if it’s not recording is just not polite. It’s a very strange feeling that I’m only just now trying to get my head around. I think the technology is incredibly cool but I wonder if socially we are ready for Glass. I’m starting to think the Google Glass Explorer program might be less about testing hardware, and more about testing people.

    To me, while the concept of Glass is a neat and innovative step into the future, I am not sure that being a Google-sanctioned paparazzi is going to be appealing to the privacy-conscious consumer.

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  • otherrobertotherrobert NJRegistered User regular
    Panel 2 is what I look like when I do press at a convention. I don't see how Google Glass is that much more convenient. You'll pry two cameras, a shotgun mic sticking out of my backpack, and a cellphone or tablet operated with my nose from my cold dead hands. Probably some time on Day 2 when I collapse from hauling around all that gear.

  • Monkey Ball WarriorMonkey Ball Warrior A collection of mediocre hats Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I am not sure that being a Google-sanctioned paparazzi is going to be appealing to the privacy-conscious consumer.

    I think the concern here is that "the privacy-conscious consumer" is a rare breed. Almost equally rare are people who are not asshats. Gabe is, generally speaking, not an asshat. At least at people he doesn't know well. This is not true for people in the general case.

    We all know how Cell Phones use has been affected by social protocol as they became all-present, i.e. it was not affected, people use cell phones whenever and wherever they damn well please, screw everyone else. I would say that if the Glass were to become anything approaching ubiquitous, we would see this attitude extended to it.

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  • marsiliesmarsilies Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Is Google Glass the Eye-Phone from Futurama?

    For real, I don't know what it does. It looks like it's just a small camera that that you wear on your face...
    Pretty much. Besides the camera, it also has a display that shows up in the corner of your eye, so you can look up things, make video calls, etc. Here's a video demo of how it looks when wearing it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1uyQZNg2vE
    youtube.com/watch?v=v1uyQZNg2vE

    Skull2185 wrote: »
    I wonder if Mike had that lasik procedure specifically because he was getting Google Glass :P
    I think he did it before he knew he was getting Google Glass, and anyway it's designed to sit in front of standard glasses if needed.
    http://www.geek.com/android/48-hours-in-wearing-google-glass-with-glasses-1555830/

    Google is also working on incorporating prescription lenses straight into the Google Glass:
    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-34900_7-57585043/glasses-with-google-glass-prescription-versions-appear-at-google-i-o/

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    it's okay, no one knows you're doing it

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    marsilies wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Is Google Glass the Eye-Phone from Futurama?

    For real, I don't know what it does. It looks like it's just a small camera that that you wear on your face...
    Pretty much. Besides the camera, it also has a display that shows up in the corner of your eye, so you can look up things, make video calls, etc. Here's a video demo of how it looks when wearing it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1uyQZNg2vE
    youtube.com/watch?v=v1uyQZNg2vE

    Skull2185 wrote: »
    I wonder if Mike had that lasik procedure specifically because he was getting Google Glass :P
    I think he did it before he knew he was getting Google Glass, and anyway it's designed to sit in front of standard glasses if needed.
    http://www.geek.com/android/48-hours-in-wearing-google-glass-with-glasses-1555830/

    Google is also working on incorporating prescription lenses straight into the Google Glass:
    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-34900_7-57585043/glasses-with-google-glass-prescription-versions-appear-at-google-i-o/

    Ok, displaying the reference image on the glasses while you work is actually pretty cool. Would also help with DIY car repairs..

  • foodlefoodle Registered User regular
    "Glasshole" another PAism right up there with "Bullshot"

    Glasshole was coined long before PA used it.

  • kingworkskingworks Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I think I would be more into having GG as a personal HUD and not an ever-present unblinking eye.

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  • GanluanGanluan Registered User regular
    I legit think Google Glass is going to be something that people look back at and recognize was a big stepping stone toward a "sci-fi" future, similar to smartphones and the way they've changed the world.

  • FramlingFramling FaceHead Geebs has bad ideas.Registered User regular
    Whenever I take a picture with my phone's camera, it's automatically uploaded to cloud storage. I'm sure something similar is possible with Glass.

    I keep envisioning situations like a woman walking by herself at night, streaming video to cloud storage. If she's attacked, that record will survive, even if the Glass is destroyed. Or protestors, streaming video during a demonstration. Even if the police arrest everyone, or confiscate or destroy their equipment, the record survives.

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  • RiqaRiqa Registered User regular
    kingworks wrote: »
    I think I would be more into having GG as a personal HUD and not an ever-present unblinking eye.

    That's more or less all it is currently using Google Now cards, it doesn't record or take a picture of anything unless you tell it too. Even if you did keep recording constantly the thing only ends up having a battery life of something like 30-45 minutes. It spends most of its time sleeping/suspended until you need it for something and it wakes up. Of course the technology is still in the very early stages.
    Framling wrote: »
    Whenever I take a picture with my phone's camera, it's automatically uploaded to cloud storage. I'm sure something similar is possible with Glass.

    I keep envisioning situations like a woman walking by herself at night, streaming video to cloud storage. If she's attacked, that record will survive, even if the Glass is destroyed. Or protestors, streaming video during a demonstration. Even if the police arrest everyone, or confiscate or destroy their equipment, the record survives.

    Yeah you can have something like that with Google+ I believe with the option to have whatever you upload set private or public. But you do need to have it connected to a phone for the connection.

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  • AcksiomAcksiom Registered User regular
    Having been falsely accused in my 20s, my view is somewhat different from his. He may feel much ruder, but I'm pretty sure I would feel much, MUCH safer.

    I'm also pretty sure that like an armed society, a sousveillant society is a more polite society.

    People who won't behave appropriately in public are going to have to adapt or avoid it. Girls and women should be particularly concerned, because between this, Vasalgel/RISUG, the population crash, and the accelerating increases in men's liberation, a lot of the special perks and privileges they're accustomed to are going away.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I absolutely forbid anyone from hijacking this thread and turning it into a ridiculous "men's rights" debacle

  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Perhaps if we turn society into a constant Panopticon people will behave themselves. Yes. There cannot be downsides.

  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    hopefully without approaching the "debacle" area of discussion, i will say that the idea that either arms or the surveillance panopticon are required to make society civil is ludicrous.

    Gabe's earlier newspost is rather telling, too. his gut feeling is that using Google Glass in public with strangers is rude. i'd be for a device that gives you a real-time HUD with useful information, but not with the data recording and "cloud storage" that comes with Google's particular implementation.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I've only just thought about some of the cool uses for this, even if they're not possible now. I could see something awesome and stream it live to a friend to watch on their tv or whatever. If my notoriously easily scared roommate is having one of her bi-daily terrors about murderers or ghosties she can stream her vision to me so she feels safer. Or less safe, depending on whether I'm engaging in one of my bi-daily ghostie hoaxes.

  • 101101 Registered User regular
    marsilies wrote: »
    Google is also working on incorporating prescription lenses straight into the Google Glass:
    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-34900_7-57585043/glasses-with-google-glass-prescription-versions-appear-at-google-i-o/

    This would be absolutely fantastic - I'm far too squeamish for laser eye/contacts.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Tycho didn't link the comic in his post today. He's getting bad in his old age.

  • AcksiomAcksiom Registered User regular
    >i will say that the idea that either arms or the surveillance panopticon are required to make society civil is ludicrous.

    But that's a straw man. Nobody here but you is proposing any such thing.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Continuing this debate will get you booted from the thread.

  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    Acksiom wrote: »
    >i will say that the idea that either arms or the surveillance panopticon are required to make society civil is ludicrous.

    But that's a straw man. Nobody here but you is proposing any such thing.

    well that's good, because i could have sworn i was addressing an implication made here:
    Acksiom wrote: »
    I'm also pretty sure that like an armed society, a sousveillant society is a more polite society.

    bad actors exist even when society is armed or recording everything. bad actors exist because of those things as well.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Robert what did I just fucking say

    geth, kick @fightinfilipino from the thread

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    Affirmative Tube. @fightinfilipino banned from this thread.

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I've only just thought about some of the cool uses for this, even if they're not possible now. I could see something awesome and stream it live to a friend to watch on their tv or whatever. If my notoriously easily scared roommate is having one of her bi-daily terrors about murderers or ghosties she can stream her vision to me so she feels safer. Or less safe, depending on whether I'm engaging in one of my bi-daily ghostie hoaxes.

    You can tell her to tune into what you're seeing, and when she does you're standing behind her. Comedy gold!

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    I wish I could have a hud on shit at all times. I wish I could have a minimap. I get lost walking down the hall.

    What is this I don't even.
  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I wish I could have a hud on shit at all times. I wish I could have a minimap. I get lost walking down the hall.

    They need to keep a better eye on you at the home.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I wish I could have a hud on shit at all times. I wish I could have a minimap. I get lost walking down the hall.

    Have you seen the stuff some folks have been developing like this for fire-fighters?

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I wish I could have a hud on shit at all times. I wish I could have a minimap. I get lost walking down the hall.

    Have you seen the stuff some folks have been developing like this for fire-fighters?

    I have not.

    I don't need mine to be heroic and save people and shit, though.

    I need it to identify in which room I left my fucking keys.

    What is this I don't even.
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I wish I could have a hud on shit at all times. I wish I could have a minimap. I get lost walking down the hall.

    Have you seen the stuff some folks have been developing like this for fire-fighters?

    I have not.

    I don't need mine to be heroic and save people and shit, though.

    I need it to identify in which room I left my fucking keys.

    Why have keys when you have fingerprint or eyeball identification to unlock things? We're already talking about the future, just roll with it.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I wish I could have a hud on shit at all times. I wish I could have a minimap. I get lost walking down the hall.

    Have you seen the stuff some folks have been developing like this for fire-fighters?

    I have not.

    I don't need mine to be heroic and save people and shit, though.

    I need it to identify in which room I left my fucking keys.

    Why have keys when you have fingerprint or eyeball identification to unlock things? We're already talking about the future, just roll with it.

    Google Glass, take a picture

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    What is this I don't even.
  • MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I wish I could have a hud on shit at all times. I wish I could have a minimap. I get lost walking down the hall.

    Have you seen the stuff some folks have been developing like this for fire-fighters?

    I have not.

    I don't need mine to be heroic and save people and shit, though.

    I need it to identify in which room I left my fucking keys.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I wish I could have a hud on shit at all times. I wish I could have a minimap. I get lost walking down the hall.

    Have you seen the stuff some folks have been developing like this for fire-fighters?

    I have not.

    I don't need mine to be heroic and save people and shit, though.

    I need it to identify in which room I left my fucking keys.

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  • RatherDashing89RatherDashing89 Registered User regular
    Isn't this comic about whether or not taking video with the Glass is acceptable or polite?

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Putting "glasshole" aside for a moment, Snow Crash gave us "gargoyle" for exactly this.

  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    I'm just a bit skeptical about the cellular data usage end of it all...I don't think that there's enough data in current cell phone plans, or at least the sane affordable ones, to keep a constant stream of directions, texts, internet searches, video chats, and all of this crazy stuff they're showing off, not to mention connection drops as you go different places.

    Perhaps the answer to that is "don't use it for that stuff very much then," but then you're just stick with an incredibly inconvenient and expensive digital camera and clock you have to wear on your face all the time.

    Don't get me wrong, augmented reality and super glasses stuff is cool, but the realities of network infrastructure seems like it would severely limit the real world applications of this device.

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