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PlayStation 3 20GB Model Pulled From Shelves?
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Take this news with a grain of salt, but a friend of mine manages a video game store and he has stated that HQ requested all the local stores to send back 20 GB models of the PS3. I know Best Buy has already taken the models down, or is at least in the process of doing so. He suggested it was being discontinued outright, due to the skewed sales between 20 and 60 GB models and the fact that the 60 GB model was in huge demand compared to the 20 GB. By using resources to make the 20, they are taking resources away to build the 60. I believe most people would spring for the 60 model anyway, if it was available.
It will be interesting to see where this goes in the coming weeks - either only this chain was pulling the model because it's selling like crap, or it's a regional/national deal until Sony gets their act straight.
It will be interesting to see where this goes in the coming weeks - either only this chain was pulling the model because it's selling like crap, or it's a regional/national deal until Sony gets their act straight.
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I'm not suprised by either that, or this.
Also, at least the 20GB PS3 is not only funtional, but user-upgradable without paying a greediculous amount of money, unlike the 360. Zing!
But yeah, I'm really not surprised. 20GB PS3s aren't selling very well at all.
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Yes, but god I so want it to be right this time.
Why?
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Because (read below)
Having one version of the console means you only need to build one model of the console (mass production helps reduce the price after a while). It also puts all of the PS3 owners on the same playing field and makes everyone equal in what they can do with there console.
It's really early where I am.
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People can't find the 20 gig PS3, so that means it's not in demand? Doesn't the opposite make more sense? As in, Sony has been skewing production to the 60 gig version, but people are snatching up the 20 gig, to save $100?
I think the profit margin is the same for the retailers - probably like $10 to $20 a system. But once you have someone paying for a system, they also have to buy games (big profits for used) and accessories. All from the same store, or at least what the retailers hope. Then in the future customers think "Well, they had the 60 gb in stock, so they probably have this..."
Sony is at a crossroads, with this and the demands from many stores to drop the PSP price.
It just seems better in every way to me, but I guess consumers see "More space out of the box= better!"
To be fair, my old store has only seen two 20gig PS3s, and that was at launch.
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I think it's more along the lines of "well, fuck, I'm paying at least $500 anyway..."
Also, doesn't Sony actually make money (or at least lose less money) on the 60 gig model?
You make a good point. I think retailers are starting to get a little more agressive in their demands. And unless Sony plans on selling it's hardware mail-order, they're gonna have to figure something out to satisfy them.
Also, your fucking avatar is like 163kb and unsized, you fucker.
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Both of these are very true, but to be fair to the PS3, as stated above, at least the 20gig model is fully functional, while the core 360 system isn't really (assuming you want to go online, mem cards could be okay for offline gaming I guess).
But still, yeah, I was definately in the 'at that price what difference does another 100 dollars make' group anyway.
I am a freaking nerd.
Sony doesn't make a profit on any of the versions. At launch, Sony was losing 240 dollars for the 60 GB and 300 for the 20 GB.
Haha, yeah it is. So instead, here is a picture of Kurtwood Smith in a funny hat.
Oh, and Einhander is a sweet game.
Thanks. A lot of people think I'm named after the game, but what I'm really named after is masturbation. You can tell because I don't use an umlaut.
You cannot go wrong with funny hats.
On a side note, I wonder what kind of flack Sony would have taken if they would have released a single model PS3 with HDMI and no hard drive, and just required the consumer to buy and install their own?
Also, even if you bought a Core, the memory card adds $49.99 to the price, and will probably stay at $49.99 until a larger card is released.
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I really wouldn't mind a version of the PS3 with no hard drive, no HDMI, and no card reader, as none of them do much for me, and I would just install my own HD for much cheaper.
Especially at the retail price of $399
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That includes the Wii. I've been spoiled by the current gen Xbox.
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You would if you have a PS3. The games install on the system so that load times are alleviated. I hear tell that Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge RACER! takes a whopping 5 gigs of hard drive space just to play it. There goes a fourth of your 20 gig hard drive.
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Not that you'd really care that much, but it's not like you're in any danger of filling up the Wii's internal storage right now. I've got a pile of VC games, all the optional channels, and bunch of photos my friends keep sending me, and I'm nowhere near filling it up.
Maybe if/when they get Neo Geo games up on the VC, my tune will change a bit, but for right now it doesn't seem like there's any difference between the Wii's internal flash and the 360's drive except that there's no online service in place for you to download gigs of movies and demos from.
The one thing that still draws me to the Wii is VC. Whenever Neo Geo games hit the service... depending on the lineup I might buy one. If the emulation is rock-solid and they work out some kind of storage system and a better classic controller, then a Wii+NG games over VC would be a hell of a lot cheaper than buying an actual Neo Geo system.
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Well, the last time Ben Herman let anybody know what was up, he hinted that they may be considering a controller shell built to work like the old Neo Geo AES sticks ... but even he admitted that was just speculation. Also, that Neo Geo games would probably weigh in at $10.
Unfortunately storage is a bit of a problem when your games can clock in as high as 90MB. You could probably only get one or two on the system at a time (since 256 MB of the internal 512 MB is reserved for the OS), but you could keep a large amount on your SD card and copy them on/off when necessary. It's by no means perfect, but it's still far cheaper than an AES or MVS setup and actual Neo Geo games.
You actually saw one in stores? I've never seen a 20 GB model, and I've probably seen around two dozen PS3's in the wild since launch.
I always assumed the 20 GB sold much better comparatively, explaining why it was so rarely seen. (I remember a forumer looking for one for weeks, and this was after PS3 stock became abundant.) If this is true, would this kind of move put the brakes on sales? Or would the mentality of "I'm paying $500 anyway, what's another $100?" kick in?
Not to generalize, but the kind of people buying PS3s now don't see it as a budget purchase. They understand that it's a luxury item and are willing to pay for the "extra" luxury of the 60GB version.
While I agree with this reasoning, the mass-market nature of game consoles makes it a big mistake to be seen as a luxury item, assuming you want your install base to stomp the competitors.
Oh, I'm not defending the practice... I'm just saying that's probably why so many people forgo the cheaper 20 GB version to get the 60 GB version.
Solid state fails as well, especially when its read/written a lot.
£425 60Gig or nothing.
Really? How do you upgrade the HD? How do you upgrade it to WiFi enabled? Does it even have a HDMI output (no the xbox doesn't either but we are talking about upgrading here) How do you upgrade it so it can use wireless controllors (my personal biggest gripe of the system).
Unless I've missed something or the Zing was sarcastic I'm fairly surely the 20gig PS3 is completely un-upgradable.
Satans..... hints.....
You can replace the hard drive, use a wireless bridge, it already has HDMI, and it already uses wireless controllers, which are bluetooth, not 802.11.