ASRock is a low cost manufacturer with wildly different qualities between their boards. Some of their boards are great, others are shit to be avoided.
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toloveistorebel Impressive. Most impressive. Central FLRegistered Userregular
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I think you could say the same about any manufacturer really though. I'm sure every mobo manufacturer has issues from time to time. I'm not saying they're the best mobo maker out there, because they're not. But from personal experience and friends' experience I have to echo what @chrishallett83 said. When you're looking for a solid budget oriented board, and even a higher end board, ASRock is a great choice.
@Cabezone have you had some bad experiences with ASRock?
Asus is always my go-to for motherboards, although ASRock is certainly growing on me. I have heard overwhelmingly positive comments about them over the past year.
Ok. So. I've got two of these: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=10509&seq=1&format=2 and their stands are, um, less than stellar. Can anyone recommend a solid VESA mount that allows height adjustment as well as a small amount of tilt? I'd prefer to keep the monitors on my desk, vs. mount them on a wall.
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toloveistorebel Impressive. Most impressive. Central FLRegistered Userregular
Ok. So. I've got two of these: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=10509&seq=1&format=2 and their stands are, um, less than stellar. Can anyone recommend a solid VESA mount that allows height adjustment as well as a small amount of tilt? I'd prefer to keep the monitors on my desk, vs. mount them on a wall.
Ok. So. I've got two of these: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=10509&seq=1&format=2 and their stands are, um, less than stellar. Can anyone recommend a solid VESA mount that allows height adjustment as well as a small amount of tilt? I'd prefer to keep the monitors on my desk, vs. mount them on a wall.
I think you could say the same about any manufacturer really though. I'm sure every mobo manufacturer has issues from time to time. I'm not saying they're the best mobo maker out there, because they're not. But from personal experience and friends' experience I have to echo what @chrishallett83 said. When you're looking for a solid budget oriented board, and even a higher end board, ASRock is a great choice.
@Cabezone have you had some bad experiences with ASRock?
I personally went with the ASUS Sabretooth board, because my build was a "money is no object" thing.
But on a budget? Whichever is cheapest between the ASRock and Gigabyte boards that have the features I want and the quality of componentry and design that I want. I personally wouldn't consider MSI, too many people I know have had problems with their motherboards.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to anchor a monitor to a desk? I don't want anything permanent.
The problem is that one of my monitors wobbles when I type. It's incredibly distracting. I taped it to the monitor next to it and it reduced it a lot but that isn't enough... I can't be the only one who has this issue.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to anchor a monitor to a desk? I don't want anything permanent.
The problem is that one of my monitors wobbles when I type. It's incredibly distracting. I taped it to the monitor next to it and it reduced it a lot but that isn't enough... I can't be the only one who has this issue.
The only thing you can do is get a heavier-duty monitor stand.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to anchor a monitor to a desk? I don't want anything permanent.
The problem is that one of my monitors wobbles when I type. It's incredibly distracting. I taped it to the monitor next to it and it reduced it a lot but that isn't enough... I can't be the only one who has this issue.
I just use one of the clamping dual-monitor mounts linked above. It can be removed, and gives full articulation to the monitors. No wobble!
Ok. So. I've got two of these: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=10509&seq=1&format=2 and their stands are, um, less than stellar. Can anyone recommend a solid VESA mount that allows height adjustment as well as a small amount of tilt? I'd prefer to keep the monitors on my desk, vs. mount them on a wall.
EDIT: I don't have any personal experience with these though. But they look solid. I didn't look at any reviews either..
I have two of the $21 monoprice arms and they are a little disappointing. They tend to sag a little bit. It drives my better half crazy but I guess I'm used to it by now.
Well, I dunno. I need to figure out a cheap, upgradeable build that i can use for wow, tera, and steam games like tomb raider.
I can't afford anything now and it'd be incredibly irresponsible for me to buy anything but at the same time i just can't help but look. The build i have is around $1450 including a cheap monitor and a newer version of my old Naga mouse.
My last pc had a $70 motherboard, a cheap processor, and a radeon 5770 card and it could more or less do these things. raiding in tera was just lolslideshow and sometimes frame skip got me killed in upper level bam solo attempts, but I got 60 frames out of wow generally and tomb raider was totally playable.
Hmm.
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Well, I dunno. I need to figure out a cheap, upgradeable build that i can use for wow, tera, and steam games like tomb raider.
I can't afford anything now and it'd be incredibly irresponsible for me to buy anything but at the same time i just can't help but look. The build i have is around $1450 including a cheap monitor and a newer version of my old Naga mouse.
My last pc had a $70 motherboard, a cheap processor, and a radeon 5770 card and it could more or less do these things. raiding in tera was just lolslideshow and sometimes frame skip got me killed in upper level bam solo attempts, but I got 60 frames out of wow generally and tomb raider was totally playable.
You have a liquid cooler in there but a 650W PS and SLI cards....something doesn't match. If you're not OCing your stuff..drop the liquid cooler and go with an 800w PS. Unless your goal is silence and not OC, then you'll need more cooling as the cards will make more noise than the CPU.
I think you could say the same about any manufacturer really though. I'm sure every mobo manufacturer has issues from time to time. I'm not saying they're the best mobo maker out there, because they're not. But from personal experience and friends' experience I have to echo what @chrishallett83 said. When you're looking for a solid budget oriented board, and even a higher end board, ASRock is a great choice.
@Cabezone have you had some bad experiences with ASRock?
I didn't have a bad experience, but looking at reviews they tend to skimp out on quality on their lower priced stuff.
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
Well yeah, any $50 mobo no matter who it's made by isn't going to have Japanese gold caps and hand-wound chokes...
You have a liquid cooler in there but a 650W PS and SLI cards....something doesn't match. If you're not OCing your stuff..drop the liquid cooler and go with an 800w PS. Unless your goal is silence and not OC, then you'll need more cooling as the cards will make more noise than the CPU.
If he's not going to overclock the CPU or the cards, then as long as the PSU is rated correctly, it should be just good enough. It seems as though Hamurabi intends to try and eke a nice boost out of the CPU and the graphics cards though, in which case I personally would go for a better PSU, definitely. Probably better RAM too.
You have a liquid cooler in there but a 650W PS and SLI cards....something doesn't match. If you're not OCing your stuff..drop the liquid cooler and go with an 800w PS. Unless your goal is silence and not OC, then you'll need more cooling as the cards will make more noise than the CPU.
If he's not going to overclock the CPU or the cards, then as long as the PSU is rated correctly, it should be just good enough. It seems as though Hamurabi intends to try and eke a nice boost out of the CPU and the graphics cards though, in which case I personally would go for a better PSU, definitely. Probably better RAM too.
Yeah but it's much better to be running with a lot more overhead in you PS....a power supply not giving out the proper juice is really hard to diagnose without the proper tools.
EDIT...by that I think we prolyl agree. I"m not a fan of "enough" when it comes to power. I like "plenty"
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
You can go too far though, and then you run into the problem of dropping out of the PSUs peak efficiency, or worse, the over-current protection circuitry being rated too high to save your components in a power surge.
You can go too far though, and then you run into the problem of dropping out of the PSUs peak efficiency, or worse, the over-current protection circuitry being rated too high to save your components in a power surge.
Yeah, but not when talking 800w with a modern gaming system with 4 hard drives.
Hmm... I should probably just up the PSU to 700-750W. I do plan to moderately OC the 4670K and if possible the GPU.
The second 760 is a possibility, not a certainty. I'll be playing at just boring old 1080p, so even 2x 760's is probably overkill to begin with.
For context, the main title on my gaming horizon is GTA5 on PC.
I'm a big fan of simplicity over everything else. You might want to consider something like a single 780 or 290.
Having a game in mind isn't super useful...it depends on how fast you want to run it. You want to run it maxed out with 50-60fps? You're gonna want a 400-500 video card setup.
It really depends on what you're looking for. I'd still be milking my old video card for medium settings at 30+ FPS if my old system hadn't died.
And I think upon further consideration that a single 780 is prolly the way to go for Future-Proofing™ (as dubious a term as that is) and avoiding SLI-related annoyances. This one for $530 looks like a good candidate.
You messed up the link for the PSU, and I'm always a fan of starting with a single card and having room to expand to SLI in the future, just to avoid SLI headaches.
And I think upon further consideration that a single 780 is prolly the way to go for Future-Proofing™ (as dubious a term as that is) and avoiding SLI-related annoyances. This one for $530 looks like a good candidate.
Do you already have a 760? It looked that way from your price list. If not, why not just get a 770 if you're only playing at 1080P anyway? If you do have a 760 already I would say just use that till you need more juice and then grab a second one. A 780, at least for the near future, seems a bit overkill to me. Especially considering a 780 is about 60% more expensive than a 770 (assuming $330 vs. $530)
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@Cabezone have you had some bad experiences with ASRock?
Like this? They also have some that clamp onto the back of the desk that looked pretty cool.
EDIT: I don't have any personal experience with these though. But they look solid. I didn't look at any reviews either..
People seem to really like this, but I would be worried about the weight tilting the monitors down.
http://www.amazon.com/Monitor-monitors-widescreen-standard-mount/dp/B001HHNCQY
This appears to be the same thing, but fulfilled by Amazon so returns might be easier if you don't like it:
http://www.amazon.com/Tyke-Supply-Dual-Monitor-Stand/dp/B002R9HQLI/ref=pd_sim_op_1
I personally went with the ASUS Sabretooth board, because my build was a "money is no object" thing.
But on a budget? Whichever is cheapest between the ASRock and Gigabyte boards that have the features I want and the quality of componentry and design that I want. I personally wouldn't consider MSI, too many people I know have had problems with their motherboards.
Everyone has their own favourites though!
The problem is that one of my monitors wobbles when I type. It's incredibly distracting. I taped it to the monitor next to it and it reduced it a lot but that isn't enough... I can't be the only one who has this issue.
The only thing you can do is get a heavier-duty monitor stand.
I just use one of the clamping dual-monitor mounts linked above. It can be removed, and gives full articulation to the monitors. No wobble!
I have two of the $21 monoprice arms and they are a little disappointing. They tend to sag a little bit. It drives my better half crazy but I guess I'm used to it by now.
Here's hoping nothing's RMA.
Speaking of which what are the odds that a computer part is busted and needs to be exchanged?
I can't afford anything now and it'd be incredibly irresponsible for me to buy anything but at the same time i just can't help but look. The build i have is around $1450 including a cheap monitor and a newer version of my old Naga mouse.
My last pc had a $70 motherboard, a cheap processor, and a radeon 5770 card and it could more or less do these things. raiding in tera was just lolslideshow and sometimes frame skip got me killed in upper level bam solo attempts, but I got 60 frames out of wow generally and tomb raider was totally playable.
Hmm.
Everything a young woman could need from her gaming pc: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2KXGh
Just don't hook up any nerve gas to it.
(There's some stuff still on here that I own right now -- or may buy down the road -- that's just there for wattage estimation.)
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($59.99)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.98 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($230.00)
Case: Corsair 350D MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($19.12 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($8.09 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $1023.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-01 19:55 EST-0500)
I didn't have a bad experience, but looking at reviews they tend to skimp out on quality on their lower priced stuff.
Other than that side window, that's a pretty sweet looking case. I especially like the fact that it doesn't come with any 5.25" drive bays!
If he's not going to overclock the CPU or the cards, then as long as the PSU is rated correctly, it should be just good enough. It seems as though Hamurabi intends to try and eke a nice boost out of the CPU and the graphics cards though, in which case I personally would go for a better PSU, definitely. Probably better RAM too.
That case is sexy...but where the hell are those 3 front fans getting their air from?
Yeah but it's much better to be running with a lot more overhead in you PS....a power supply not giving out the proper juice is really hard to diagnose without the proper tools.
EDIT...by that I think we prolyl agree. I"m not a fan of "enough" when it comes to power. I like "plenty"
Yeah, but not when talking 800w with a modern gaming system with 4 hard drives.
The second 760 is a possibility, not a certainty. I'll be playing at just boring old 1080p, so even 2x 760's is probably overkill to begin with.
For context, the main title on my gaming horizon is GTA5 on PC.
I'm a big fan of simplicity over everything else. You might want to consider something like a single 780 or 290.
Having a game in mind isn't super useful...it depends on how fast you want to run it. You want to run it maxed out with 50-60fps? You're gonna want a 400-500 video card setup.
It really depends on what you're looking for. I'd still be milking my old video card for medium settings at 30+ FPS if my old system hadn't died.
And I think upon further consideration that a single 780 is prolly the way to go for Future-Proofing™ (as dubious a term as that is) and avoiding SLI-related annoyances. This one for $530 looks like a good candidate.
Do you already have a 760? It looked that way from your price list. If not, why not just get a 770 if you're only playing at 1080P anyway? If you do have a 760 already I would say just use that till you need more juice and then grab a second one. A 780, at least for the near future, seems a bit overkill to me. Especially considering a 780 is about 60% more expensive than a 770 (assuming $330 vs. $530)