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[Computer Build Thread] - Haswell? More like Has...damnit, I had something for this...

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Having just gone to LGA2011 a couple of months ago, I'm fine with them not releasing Broadwell in desktop SKU's.

    And Intel seems intent on trying to make a big push in the mobile market, so them focusing the next line for notebooks/ultrabooks and the tablet market seems right in line with Intel's tack the last year or so.

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  • AlectharAlecthar Alan Shore We're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    I'm fine with this. Can't see myself finding any substantive reason to think of upgrading from my Ivy Bridge system until the socket after 1150 anyway.

    I think that's exactly the way to look at it. With the way the Intel Tick/Tock works, it sounds all Tock releases (new architectures) will be getting full releases, to include desktop procs. The die shrink iterations of those chips (Tick) generally provide only modest performance/power usage improvements anyway, which I'm fine with missing, given that CPU power management is of significantly less importance to a desktop PC than laptops/mobile devices.

  • NogginNoggin Registered User regular
    Any reason to go with G.Skill Sniper over G.Skill Ripjaws??

    I thought before that the Sniper was shorter, but it's deceptive.

    For almost $20 more than the ripjaws promo, should I just go with the cheaper one?

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  • AlectharAlecthar Alan Shore We're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Noggin wrote: »
    Any reason to go with G.Skill Sniper over G.Skill Ripjaws??

    I thought before that the Sniper was shorter, but it's deceptive.

    For almost $20 more than the ripjaws promo, should I just go with the cheaper one?

    Definitely go with the cheaper Ripjaws. I would bet that the sticks themselves are identical to those in the comparable Sniper models, just with different heat spreaders.

    Alecthar on
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  • NogginNoggin Registered User regular
    Thanks so much for the help, everyone!

    Intel i5-4670K Haswell 3.4 GHz cpu
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO cpu fan
    Gigabyte Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 mobo
    G. Skill Ripjaws (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 ram
    Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB ssd
    Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB hdd
    EVGA GeForce 760 2GB (2763)
    Fractal Design Define R4 case +1 more fan
    SeaSonic 550W 80 plus gold psu
    Samsung dvd burner

    Maybe not as low as it could've been, but I'm very happy with $1,161 before tax. :D

    Battletag: Noggin#1936 || PSN: Noggin37 || Steam
  • chrishallett83chrishallett83 Hi! Registered User regular
    That's gonna be a real nice system.

    Don't forget to post pictures of the build!

  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    I have built my last 3 computers from scratch, and I admit I don't keep up on tech advancements until I get close to build-time and I will read/research everything I've missed for X amount of months. But from reading this thread and other sources it looks like the power curve has slowed down compared to the early mid 2000's where a year meant the difference between obsolete and good to go.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    Yes, that's true Magic. Right now, it's more about iterative advances than giant steps. It's kind of funny because it means you can skip a few proc generations and still stay on-par as long as you're updating your video card regularly.

    In other news, even though I bought a Q9400 from Ebay last year, I'm feeling the urge to do an IvyBridge mobo/proc/RAM upgrade. Damn you, compy thread!

  • hsuhsu Registered User regular
    Noggin, do you already own a DVD burner? If so, just reuse it. If not, just reuse your CD burner. If you really want to get a new burner, get a blu-ray burner for about $75, but really, when was the last time you actually needed to use optical media?

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  • NogginNoggin Registered User regular
    Ya, I almost didn't get one, with everything being digital.

    I figured I'd end up getting a new one eventually, since I'm going to pass my current computer down to my sister and I know she'll use it. So I just got one now.

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    riz wrote: »
    Yo. Is there a router thread I can't find? If not, I come here seeking wireless router advice. Friends recommended these $200 jobs that seem to be made for spanning entire homes. I'm in a one-bedroom apartment and my devices will either be hard-wired, a few feet away on the couch or at most one room away. There are a lot of other wireless signals crowding the airwaves here though. I'm running low on funds so I don't want to spend a ton on something fancy I don't need. Thoughts?

    I'm a huge fan of the Asus routers. The company does a phenomenal job of updating the firmware on older models, and they support 3rd party firmware (DD-WRT) right out of the box. They're also rock solid!

    That being said, they can be pricey. If you don't want to do some work on Ebay, check out the N10, N12 and N53 Here

    The N53 has a number of bad reviews on Newegg. Just the people with bad luck? Old problems they corrected?

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    I know the Asus N56U and N66U are supposed to be the shiznit though I guess out of some people's price range. I am looking at getting one of those two myself to replace the Cracker Jack box prize my ISP gave me when we moved in.

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Gaslight wrote: »
    I know the Asus N56U and N66U are supposed to be the shiznit though I guess out of some people's price range. I am looking at getting one of those two myself to replace the Cracker Jack box prize my ISP gave me when we moved in.

    I have the 66U and if you can float it, it's a damn fine piece of networking equipment. During peak times my house has 2 desktops, 3 laptops, 5 phones, and a NAS/Media server all going and they can all connect with at least 80% signal strength with fantastic throughput (granted you can't do 1080P on all said devices at once :D ).

    BlackDragon480 on
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  • F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    Hey guys, I'm getting some different opinions on my system.

    What would be the best possible upgrade for my budget ~$400?

    Current specs:
    AMD Phenom II x4 955 3.2ghz
    ATI Radeon HD 5700
    8 gigs of RAM DDR3
    250gb HDD

    Some have said CPU, others say I should upgrade my GPU. I am conflicted!

    Whichever way is best, I will try to get an SSD in the next couple weeks as well.

  • iRevertiRevert Tactical Martha Stewart Registered User regular
    The only logical solution is to quadruple your budget and build an entire new system!

    (Personally with that I'd go with GPU)

  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    Holy heck there's been a big drop in prices for 3gb gpu cards.

  • F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    What do you guys think of this SSD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226356

    I need one for around that price range. And how do I know if my motherboard is compatible with SSD?

    This is the GPU I'm thinking of getting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125443

    It seems to be a decent upgrade from my radeon 5700. What do you guys think?

  • iRevertiRevert Tactical Martha Stewart Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Big Classy wrote: »
    Holy heck there's been a big drop in prices for 3gb gpu cards.

    And with the AMD cards Saints Row 4 is included in the bundle and there is the possibility they may add Battlefield 4 and other games (Watchdogs?) into it down the road.
    F87 wrote: »
    What do you guys think of this SSD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226356

    I need one for around that price range. And how do I know if my motherboard is compatible with SSD?

    This is the GPU I'm thinking of getting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125443

    It seems to be a decent upgrade from my radeon 5700. What do you guys think?

    Spend an extra fifty bucks and get a 760
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130933

    iRevert on
    chrishallett83
  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    F87 wrote: »
    What do you guys think of this SSD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226356

    I need one for around that price range. And how do I know if my motherboard is compatible with SSD?

    This is the GPU I'm thinking of getting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125443

    It seems to be a decent upgrade from my radeon 5700. What do you guys think?

    SSD is handled by your computer through your SATA cable, you'll be fine from the looks of the age of your other parts. You might have to change to AHCI handling in the bios, but that's all as far as I can recall.

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  • AlectharAlecthar Alan Shore We're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered User regular
    F87 wrote: »
    What do you guys think of this SSD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226356

    I need one for around that price range. And how do I know if my motherboard is compatible with SSD?

    This is the GPU I'm thinking of getting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125443

    It seems to be a decent upgrade from my radeon 5700. What do you guys think?

    Sandforce-based SSDs aren't worth your money. I'd get a Crucial M500 or Samsung 840 EVO. $20 more expensive, but it's worth it to endure fewer SSD related headaches. I'd also recommend the Radeon 7950. They all come with 3 free games, and some of them are available for less than the one I linked to. Not too much more than the 760, and worth it given all the games you'll get (in my opinion, at least).

    chrishallett83
  • iRevertiRevert Tactical Martha Stewart Registered User regular
    Alecthar wrote: »
    F87 wrote: »
    What do you guys think of this SSD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226356

    I need one for around that price range. And how do I know if my motherboard is compatible with SSD?

    This is the GPU I'm thinking of getting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125443

    It seems to be a decent upgrade from my radeon 5700. What do you guys think?

    Sandforce-based SSDs aren't worth your money. I'd get a Crucial M500 or Samsung 840 EVO. $20 more expensive, but it's worth it to endure fewer SSD related headaches. I'd also recommend the Radeon 7950. They all come with 3 free games, and some of them are available for less than the one I linked to. Not too much more than the 760, and worth it given all the games you'll get (in my opinion, at least).

    7950s are less than 760s, performance-wise out of the box the 760 has it beat but when you have a solid 7950 overclocker it changes things.

    Normally I'd agree with you on the 7950 but if he isn't big on overclocking or likes Nvidia (and god do I love NVidia's control panel vs AMDs) then he should stick with a 760...but either or he should consider either a 760 or 7950.

  • F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    iRevert wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    F87 wrote: »
    What do you guys think of this SSD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226356

    I need one for around that price range. And how do I know if my motherboard is compatible with SSD?

    This is the GPU I'm thinking of getting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125443

    It seems to be a decent upgrade from my radeon 5700. What do you guys think?

    Sandforce-based SSDs aren't worth your money. I'd get a Crucial M500 or Samsung 840 EVO. $20 more expensive, but it's worth it to endure fewer SSD related headaches. I'd also recommend the Radeon 7950. They all come with 3 free games, and some of them are available for less than the one I linked to. Not too much more than the 760, and worth it given all the games you'll get (in my opinion, at least).

    7950s are less than 760s, performance-wise out of the box the 760 has it beat but when you have a solid 7950 overclocker it changes things.

    Normally I'd agree with you on the 7950 but if he isn't big on overclocking or likes Nvidia (and god do I love NVidia's control panel vs AMDs) then he should stick with a 760...but either or he should consider either a 760 or 7950.

    But the 7950 has 3 gigs of ram!

    And what about this SSD : http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MZ-7PD128B&c=CJ

    F87 on
  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    iirc the 3 gigs of ram doesnt really matter much unless you're using 2 monitors?

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  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    iRevert wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    F87 wrote: »
    What do you guys think of this SSD? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226356

    I need one for around that price range. And how do I know if my motherboard is compatible with SSD?

    This is the GPU I'm thinking of getting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125443

    It seems to be a decent upgrade from my radeon 5700. What do you guys think?

    Sandforce-based SSDs aren't worth your money. I'd get a Crucial M500 or Samsung 840 EVO. $20 more expensive, but it's worth it to endure fewer SSD related headaches. I'd also recommend the Radeon 7950. They all come with 3 free games, and some of them are available for less than the one I linked to. Not too much more than the 760, and worth it given all the games you'll get (in my opinion, at least).

    7950s are less than 760s, performance-wise out of the box the 760 has it beat but when you have a solid 7950 overclocker it changes things.

    Normally I'd agree with you on the 7950 but if he isn't big on overclocking or likes Nvidia (and god do I love NVidia's control panel vs AMDs) then he should stick with a 760...but either or he should consider either a 760 or 7950.

    Honestly, the performance difference between the 7950 and the 760 isnt massive, and the 7950 comes with 3 free games. If I had any interest in the games you can choose from Id probably go with the 7950. But then Ive also never had a whole lot of trouble with their drivers/control panel (newest ATi card I have is a 4850).

    Thats not to say the 760s not the better card, it is, I just dont know if it performs well enough to justify the price/bonuses difference.

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  • F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    Do I want the 760 or 670? Looking at this, the 670 seems better for just a small price increase.

    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

  • Irate FetusIrate Fetus Registered User regular
    Is making the jump to 1440p worth it? What GPUs are considered worthy?

  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    looking over the free games with the 7950, none of them really grabbed me

    i mean i already have a 760 but yeah

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  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Is making the jump to 1440p worth it? What GPUs are considered worthy?

    Depends on the resolution youre coming from; if its sub 1080p definitely, if its 1080p most likely, if its 1200p probably.

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  • F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    I thinking of going with this:

    Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($126.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
    Keyboard: Rosewill RK-8100 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($14.99 @ Newegg)

    The SSD recommended by @Alecthar and a 760, even though it has less video ram.

    I'm really nervous to actually pull the trigger though, what do you guys think?

    F87 on
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  • iRevertiRevert Tactical Martha Stewart Registered User regular
    looking over the free games with the 7950, none of them really grabbed me

    i mean i already have a 760 but yeah

    Saints Row 4 is there already, BF4 is rumored to be coming soon as is Watchdogs.

    So (if BF4 and WD hit that bundle) you could have 3 AAA titles with a sub $200 GPU

  • iRevertiRevert Tactical Martha Stewart Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    F87 wrote: »
    I thinking of going with this:

    Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($126.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
    Keyboard: Rosewill RK-8100 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($14.99 @ Newegg)

    The SSD recommended by @Alecthar and a 760, even though it has less video ram.

    I'm really nervous to actually pull the trigger though, what do you guys think?

    Might want to change that SSD on the storage (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147247 or $99 from Amazon)
    and I'm not keen on the keyboard. For the $20 range I'm more comfortable with a logitech beater than Rosewill but that's just me.

    iRevert on
  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    iRevert wrote: »
    looking over the free games with the 7950, none of them really grabbed me

    i mean i already have a 760 but yeah

    Saints Row 4 is there already, BF4 is rumored to be coming soon as is Watchdogs.

    So (if BF4 and WD hit that bundle) you could have 3 AAA titles with a sub $200 GPU
    yeah i don't care about any of those games tho

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  • F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    OK last question: Is this bracket what I need for my samsung evo ssd? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994085

    and will it come with the cable I need to hook it to my motherboard?

    F87 on
  • AlectharAlecthar Alan Shore We're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered User regular
    F87 wrote: »
    OK last question: Is this bracket what I need for my samsung evo ssd? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994085

    and will it come with the cable I need to hook it to my motherboard?

    Yes to the first question, no to the second, but essentially any SATA cable should work, so if you have any left from your motherboard box (which would have probably had at least 2) that would be fine. Alternately you can pick up a singleton from Newegg for basically nothing.

    F87
  • Irate FetusIrate Fetus Registered User regular
    emp123 wrote: »
    Is making the jump to 1440p worth it? What GPUs are considered worthy?

    Depends on the resolution youre coming from; if its sub 1080p definitely, if its 1080p most likely, if its 1200p probably.

    Coming from 1080p, with a Geforce GTX 680.

  • chrishallett83chrishallett83 Hi! Registered User regular
    The jump from 1080p to 1440 will be a nice step up, and the 680 should handle it well.

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  • hsuhsu Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Don't get a piece of crap keyboard, which is pretty much any non-mechanical keyboard. Go to the mechanical keyboard thread (or geekhack.org) and spend $70 on a keyboard that will last you a decade or more.

    Next, spend a bit more for a larger SSD, like a 256gb Samsung EVO for $180. You will use up the space faster than you think.

    Whatever money is left (about $150), get the best graphics card you can, like a Raedon HD 7850 or GeForce 650 Ti Boost. You'd think that $150 is not that much to spend on a GPU, but it's enough to get a pretty good card these days, and it will be a big upgrade for you.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-3.html

    The reason why I prioritize the GPU so low is because the other two items will last years longer than the GPU.

    hsu on
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  • chrishallett83chrishallett83 Hi! Registered User regular
    What if F87 is perfectly happy with a rubberdome keyboard? What if F87 only ever has a few games installed at once? What if F87 wants all of the pretties on their monitor?

    The step up from a 650Ti to a 760 is a pretty decent jump.

    Like, I just bought a Ducky Shine 3. But that doesn't mean that everyone has to have one.

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  • F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Thanks guys. Now I'm not sure of what to get at all! :P

    Was about to submit the order last night and I thought I would check over things again. My power supply is 585 watt and has 4-pin connectors + at least 1 six pin (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339012) . Well the 760 takes a 6-pin AND 8-pin (!?).

    Could I buy this adapter and everything work OK? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400034&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Internal+Power+Cables-_-N82E16812400034&gclid=CPOX_KTN4bkCFUXhQgod4EAAhw

    Also, how does this compare to the Samsung 840 Evo? It just went on sell: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-721-107&nm_mc=EMC-GD092313&cm_mmc=EMC-GD092313-_-index-_-Item-_-20-721-107&;

    And on the topic of SSD capacity, why couldn't I just get a bigger SSD down the line and use the smaller one I get now as backup later?

    F87 on
  • iRevertiRevert Tactical Martha Stewart Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Get
    A
    Fucking
    Proper
    Power
    Supply

    Toss down like $40 and get a Corsair
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

    iRevert on
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