Everybody wants to flex, nobody wants to get out of the fire. [SE++ WoW]

Lord Dave

Hey, butts!

Time for Secret Shambler GIFT EXCHANGE:

I'm starting it this time because Montina's job is hard and I'm a bum. She'll probably take it away from me again after I mess everything up. Present and past Shamblers are welcome to participate, as well as any sad Wampa Milk TOR weirdos. Unless you're a butt; don't sign up if you're a butt.

To sign up please send the following information to secretshamblers@gmail.com:
SE++ Forum Name:
Shambler Milk player name:

Mailing Info:
(please provide your REAL name - or Postal Workers will smash your package)

Steam/Battle.net E-mail(s):

Shirt Size:
Consoles:
Wishlist/Constraints:

Signup Deadline: November 26
Send your person something by Christmas or I'll put you in the eternal ShameFrame.



HELLO WE ARE HORDE on Cho'gall!
<Shambler Milk> is the place to come if you'd like to be/punch a panda with SE++ers.

Instructions for joining:

1) Create a character on Cho'gall
2) /who Shambler Milk
3) Ask someone for a guild invite
4) Friends and family are welcome

Get an Authenticator you damn weiners

Required Mods:

MilkGlass!

...that's it.

Oh, and this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaHbkEXd5sc&amp;feature=player_embedded

Raid Schedule:

Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday
All weekday raids remain at 8PM server/9PM EST/6PM PDT
(6PM server weekends)

Suggested Reading:

How to not be that guy in groups. Don't be that guy.

WoW Terminology. If you find yourself confused by the language of WoW, this is a good place to start.

Metacortex's How to Shamble in the PandaClysm wrote:

How to Shamble in the Clysm

You like raids, yes? Well we got raids. Here are a few things that you need to do if you want to Shamble Raid.

1. Download and install MilkGlass!
2. Download and install Ventrilo. You don't need to have a mic, but you do need to be able to, and know how to listen.
3. Download an up to date version of Deadly Boss Mods.
4. Know your class. The Elitist Jerks Forums generally have good information for every class, so give some of their information a read through. You can also ask in guild and people will try to help.
5. Have your gear properly gemmed and enchanted. Yes this costs gold. Tough shit, do it anyway. Don't be a Moopac.
6. Be able to pay attention and think/act/react on your own.
7. Have (at least) a rudimentary knowledge of the encounters in which you are about to partake.

UI Guide Courtesy of Higgins wrote:

Hey dudes I made a little UI guide thing for you bros that keep asking to help with yours. Uis are pretty personal things, no two Uis will be the same but I kinda want this to be like a starting point for you bros to get your Uis going.

Addons I use.

Bagnon
Button Facade
Chatter
Classtimer
Clique
Docsdebugrunes
Dominos
Doom Cooldown Pulse
Elkanos buff bars
Grid
Miks scrolling battle text
Obituary
Omen3
OmniCC
Quartz
Recount
SexyMap
SLData text
Tidy Plates
Tidy Plates: Threat plates
Tooltip on mouse
Xperl
DBM

Addons you better use if you're not a Feeg
Milkglass (its for butts)

Thats a good number off Addons I suppose, if you don't feel comfortable using all those at the same time or don't think you need to uses some of them thats fine. Start slow, Changing your entire UI in a day can take some getting used to so if you just want to ease yourself in then by all means be a babbie.

HOW I MINE FOR ADDON?!?!
Here I'll tell you how I set up my various Addons just as kind of a reference, If you don't like the way I Set my stuff you can change it to your liking or send a complaint to mirren. I'll also put picture I guess.

Bagnon: just Set it and forget it. It also lets you see whats in the bags of all your characters just by selecting the little portrait of yourself in the corner and switching to another toon.

Button Facade: Add a border to your buttons. Make it so you do have a border. Do what ever you feel is right with your bars. No real set up need, just find the button facade menu in your addons panel and choose which on you want

ClassTimer: I love classtimer, not only does it show any buff or debuff you want on your target, it also does the same for you, your pet, and your focus! I set mine to be just above my bars, and make them stack up in stead of down. To add buffs or debuffs to tracking just go into timers-->extra--> then add the spell you want.

Clique: lets you easily bind stuff to keys or key combos or mouse buttons or key and mouse button combos. The possibilities are endless! Setting your binds is straight forward and clique even has a little tutorial.

Docsdebugrunes: awesome for Dks compact addon that tell you all you need to know bout DK stuff like rune cooldowns duration of the infusion buff on your ghoul, size of the next blood shield if you choose to deathstrike after a hit. Its awesome

Dominos: I love dominos, perhaps my favorite addon, you can do pretty much anything you can think of with your bars and its easy to use.
Here is my set up You might not like they way I have my bars set but this is just an example.

Action Bar 1
Size: 12
Column: 6
Spacing: 13
Padding: 3
Scale: 122

Action Bar 2
Same as above

Action Bar 3
Size: 6
Columns: 6
Spacing: 30
Padding: 1
Scale: 77

Action Bar 4
Same as 3

Bar: 5
Size: 12
Columns: 12
Spacing:4
Padding: 2
Scale:86

Bars 6-10 are unused for but you can do with them what you will

These are numbers are scaled to my monitor so they might be a little different then what you desire but you can fiddle with them till they are right.

Elkanos Buff Bars: My preferred replacement for the blizzard buff icon. Pretty straightforward set up. Just drag it yo where ever you desire, you can add or remove buffs that you want to track through the options menu

Grid: Grid is awesome, I use it as a party/raid frames replacement but its also invaluable for telling who has aggro, who's dying, Who's dead, incoming heals, who has what debuff and a bunch of other junk. Setting up grid is an adventure in and of itself but thats more for healers and I assume they already know what to do. The base version of Grid works just fine as a party/raidframe. Set up can be a bit daunting just because of the sheer number of menus and sub menus but its pretty simple to set up once you get past them.

Omen3: Aggro meter. Useful for tanks and DPS who don't want to pull aggro and die like chumps (Revash). Pretty much set and forget unless you want to tweak the visuals. I personally have it set to transparent along with recount.

Recount: Dps meter to show how bad you are, why are you so bad, do 2k more dps.

SexyMap: Map mod lets you put all kinds of pretty borders and shit around your map. Also allows you to move it away from the top corner postion. I use the simple square preset because I don't like a lot of bullshit around my map. Maps are serious goddamn business and anyone who tells you otherwise is a communist sympathizer

SLData Text: This is a replacement for the regular menu bar, the one that shows your latency and all that other junk you hardly ever look at. To get to the config for this you have to type /sldt.

Tidy Plates and Tidy Plates: Threat Plates: the semicoloning pt 2 race to shoe mountain: Name plate mod that rules. They aren't as useless as the blizzard ones. They show who has aggro on what how much aggro, cast bars and other life saving tips.

ToolTip on mouse: it puts the tool tips on your cursor.

Deadly boss mods: Derp

Xperl: A UnitFrame mod that lets you change and move all the unit frames ever. I have mine set to not show party or raid frames because I use Grid for that. To navigate to the config menu just type /xperl and away you go.

Once you set up all your addons and stuff you might have a cool UI like this or a horrible abomination, Who knows?

If I missed something let me know, or if you need help or something.

Guild Roster

The Officers:

Lord Dave - Mirren - Mage - Queen of the Guild
EclipsedPlanet - Montina - Paladin - Consort
Ranlin - Alendra - Druid - Weh Wemh
Radius - Kyira - Rogue - Hates you
Metacortex - Nobarg - Warrior - Grabby
Dely Apple - Pipette - Hunter - 106.3, Radio KDLY
Bogey - ******** - Paladin

Master of Feegs:
Nikolai - Higgins - Butt

The Plebeians:

Rhylith - Rhylith - Shaman
Dys - Dystopian - Shaman
captaink - Knut - Shaman
Balefuego - Baledar - Shaman
Lock Robster! - Eits - Druid
Opalcat - Pittpolecat - Warlock
Javen - Javen - Rogue
SA - Revash - Warlock
Bucketman - Skragg - Warrior
Belruel - Belruen - Priest
Laurrie - Aladorn - Death Knight
Gatsby - Jerne - Hunter
Naphtali - Naphtali - Priest
Mitten - Cless - Priest
GRMike - Borrock - Paladin
Sarukun - Kerokoa - Druid
Bytoady - Toadles - Warrior
The Geebs that is a Mod - Vonne - Priest
Slow - Nsfw - Rogue
Langly - Cuthburt - Paladin
Animal Companion - Xenomortis - Rogue
Ruer - Mintaka - Warrior
Cilla Black - Urdahlia - Priest
Zucchini - Zucchini - Druid
Blankspace - Blankasaurus - Hunter
Manifest - Manif - Paladin
Callius - Callius - Paladin
Wubblewoo - Wubblewoo - Paladin
Ranx - Vamrithis - Priest
Shabooty - Ooty - Druid
Aphostile - Ephostile - Druid
Tsplitter - Rasmius - Warrior
Swill - Swills - Paladin
Deaconblues - Normanus - Priest
Shadowthomas - Xangia - Paladin
Scosglen - Barnago - Warlock
End - Zaraleiriria - Warlock
Uriel - Rotshank - Rogue
Yukira - Leliana - Paladin

The Babbies:

That Dave Fella - Dafella - Shaman
Vargas Prime - Vhargas - Paladin
Fearghaill - Euryale - Warlock
Andrew Ryan - Dryan - Death Knight
The Stig - Ursine - Druid
Stale - Stizz - Warrior
Asmodei - Fahren - Warlock
Baywatch - Crossbuster - Rogue
Professor Snugglesworth - Jordinand - Druid
Quoth - Lydda - Hunter
SabreMau - Charvanek - Paladin
SLyM - Davl - Druid
Munkus Beaver - Munkus - Druid
I Win Swordfights! - Korovan - Paladin
??? - Snrub - Druid
Sara Lynn - Odella - Rogue
joshua1numbers - Trollishness - Druid
Isoldae - Isomon - Warlock
Modedieu: 70's Shaman

Along with all the friends and families of Shamblers.

MISSING:

Derrick - ??? - ???

Shamblers of Yore:

Meissnerd - Stop healing him
makershot - Rubenesque - Shaman
Drool - Remmos - Baby with a beard
WhiskeyBiznass - Gwency - Rogue
Omegasquash - Omegasquash - Paladin
Fallout - TOMCRUISE - DK
Frylockholmes - Valikriss - Warrior
Aburnflags - Vilmon - Paladin
Preachermeat - Krythlynn - Paladin
Joah - Chatturgha - Shaman
Linksville - Franksville - Druid
Kusuguttai - Kusu - Warlock
futility - Shekhina - Hunter
SkankPlaya - Vaklempt - Warlock
Fandyien - Fandyien - Priest
World as Myth - Yosephine - Rogue
Captain Cthulu - Naporeon - Paladin
Neville - Nevga - DK
SithDrummer - Arkjin - Hunter
Hoodie - Avataar - Hunter
Aslan - Pysek - Mage
Owenashi - Kaziel - Warrior
Backwards - Sdraw - Mage
Centipede - Ravkaras - warlock
Roahgnar - Anjin-San - Warrior
Jes is a - jessaissa - Mage

Are you new? Check some of this stuff out so you won't be awful.

Curse Gaming: World of Warcraft mod depository. If it's a WoW mod it's probably here.

Wowhead: The best database for WoW hands-down.

MMO-Champion: The go-to site for patch and PTR news.

WoW Insider: The Kotaku of WoW. Slower news than everyone else, and a lot of crappy articles, but occasionally a rare gem.

Elitist Jerks Forums: Wondering whether haste or crit is better for you? EJ has had their results on that published in scientific journals.

Pet Collectors: Compendium for vanity pets. What pets exist, and how to get them.

Pettopia: Compendium for hunter pets. What pets exist, and how to get them

Mount Up!: Compendium for mounts. What riding pets exist and how to get them.

Wow Wiki: The largest known database of WoW lore outside of Owenashi geocities page.

Goodbye Northrend, we will miss your icy mountains majesty above the zombied plains

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REUVqVaTz-M

Yukira

I was so close to making a new thread.

Jasconius

i am lurving the new expansion

I'm still in my 10 day trial but I've already bought it and I will definitely re-sub at least long enough to become disappointed with another endgame all over again

i'd rec anyone who hasn't played since Lich King or prior to give it another look

Naphtali

LD sorry but Kael's obvious campaign line would be "Merely A Setback"

End

Yukira wrote: »

I was so close to making a new thread.

making new threads is a trap because bogey hates mops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wvc6Nuleks

That Dave Fella

To be honest apart from Heart of Fear all the raids have been fun/interesting and I'm hoping they can keep it up with Siege. The first boss seems fun in a less brutal viscidus sense and I'm hoping the other however many will be fun too.

Flex raiding is actually going to be great for just raiding with your bros and not caring how many people turn up and letting you get a mount from it owns. Not sharing a lockout with normals is great for those who wanted more to do a la WotLK 10 and 25 man separate raids.

Beasteh

hof was so boring

That Dave Fella

Honestly I'm a bit sad that they didn't get a chance to do 5 mans a bunch this expansion but I'm happy if the raid content is better for it. I prefer the stage of the expansion were you log in 1-3 days and get your stuff done instead of running the same dungeons over and over.

If you really want to, you can spend 2-3 hours and get capped on reset or you can just spread it out over a few days.

I hope that they can balance it next expansion that there's 5 mans each tier along with raids to make the game alt friendly again and they can improve rep systems again so if they do a rep grind you don't have to do it again on your alts albeit 50% quicker.

Buttlord

why am i just now discovering how much money you can make selling mats that you find while just doing your regular shit

fucking

ten gold for selling some copper and some silverleaf

Buttlord

why yes i would like to make FIFTY TIMES what i currently have just for doing nothing

PiptheFair

low level crafting mats sell for arab money because people are lazy

Buttlord

yeah seriously it's just blowing my mind that some dude is like

3 gold? for five copper ore?

sure fuck it saves me from mining like a scrub

Jasconius

if i recall correctly, when Cata dropped, Raneados made a character with dual gathering and by the time he hit 70 he was well into 5 figures

and that shit has only gotten more valuable since then

Buttlord

i just went from ~35 silver to nine gold

and all of my auctions haven't even been delivered yet

and i'm going to go create four more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_xjBAd5G84

Cilla Black

I want kael'thas in the burning crusade expansion so so much.

Buttlord

Jasconius wrote: »

if i recall correctly, when Cata dropped, Raneados made a character with dual gathering and by the time he hit 70 he was well into 5 figures

and that shit has only gotten more valuable since then

yeah someone told me to take herbalism and mining and cackle wildly as i scrooge mcduck-ed into my gold

i didn't buy it and now i do

Cilla Black

Gold is so crazy inflated compared even to cataclysm.

Jasconius

i noticed since green level 1 pokemon are vending for 4 figures on the AH

Buttlord

back in my day i could buy ore on the auction for like twenty silver a stack you goddamn whippersnappers etc

Metacortex

The hours I spent running around ungoro farming mountain silversage so afford a swift orange raptor

Lord Dave

The 6 extra seconds it took you to walk over and pick that Peacebloom could have been spent kicking a wolf in the dick at 90 for 12g.

PiptheFair

Metacortex wrote: »

The hours I spent running around ungoro farming mountain silversage so afford a swift orange raptor

arcane crystals....

PiptheFair

also to point out
I have 19000G and I am kinda broke by most standards

so....

Buttlord

Lord Dave wrote: »

The 6 extra seconds it took you to walk over and pick that Peacebloom could have been spent kicking a wolf in the dick at 90 for 12g.

not for me it couldn't

Lord Dave

Opportunity cost sez it could
Save those 6 seconds for later

DirtyDirtyVagrant

Actually I'm not even sure how to earn money in this game. I am level 90 and I have like 300g.

Lord Dave

Skim from the guild bank

End

the glib answer is "sell shit"

a real answer probably involves leveraging your trade skills

PiptheFair

Lord Dave wrote: »

Skim from the guild bank

I KNEW IT

Lord Dave

oh shit forgot to log on to my other account

DirtyDirtyVagrant

The only thing I can think to do is take up mining and alchemy and sell transmute cooldowns and stacks of ore.

PiptheFair

DirtyDirtyVagrant wrote: »

The only thing I can think to do is take up mining and alchemy and sell transmute cooldowns and stacks of ore.

http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/10/01/gold-capped-shuffling-ore-in-mists-of-pandaria/

don't do that on our server or end will break your legs(when he is not afk)

also do dailies and lfr

Dys

DirtyDirtyVagrant wrote: »

The only thing I can think to do is take up mining and alchemy and sell transmute cooldowns and stacks of ore.

I've been using my alchemist's daily cooldown for Living Steel pretty much every day for awhile now.

Seeing as those sell upwards of 400 gold apiece, it has made me quite a bit.

Beasteh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcuOV4Zel-g

engineering profession best profession

Naphtali

Lord Dave wrote: »

oh shit forgot to log on to my other account

montina?!?!?!

PiptheFair

what does that take to craft cause holy fuck

Beasteh

600 ghost iron ore and 360 black + 360 white trillium ore

Beasteh

buy those mats right the fuck now because theyre about to boom

Naphtali

PiptheFair wrote: »

what does that take to craft cause holy fuck

your first born child

PiptheFair

that is an absurd amount of trillium

Dys

Dys wrote: »

DirtyDirtyVagrant wrote: »

The only thing I can think to do is take up mining and alchemy and sell transmute cooldowns and stacks of ore.

I've been using my alchemist's daily cooldown for Living Steel pretty much every day for awhile now.

Seeing as those sell upwards of 400 gold apiece, it has made me quite a bit.

Beasteh wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcuOV4Zel-g

engineering profession best profession

CANCELLING ALL OF THOSE AUCTIONS