MOTW 7/24/13 - That doesn't turn out well for anyone

Balefuego

Young Avengers #8. Big issue, lots of big moments, but none bigger than this for fans of Gillen's previous work.

Kiwi

Balefuego wrote: »

Young Avengers #8. Big issue, lots of big moments, but none bigger than this for fans of Gillen's previous work.

Out of all the awesome, crazy things in this issue, this was the highlight for me. I actually "squeed" out loud. It was mildly be embarrassing.

Also the Hawkeye Annual, featuring Lady Hawkguy, was great, as usual.

vagrant_winds

The Hawkeye annual had great writing, but I personally hated the art.

Centipede Damascus

Hawkeye Annual #1 Lady Hawkguy takes a trip to L.A., and after some trouble, manages to make even more of an enemy out of Madam Masque

New Avengers #8 T'Challa invites Namor over for a drink.

Uncanny Avengers #10 If there's one thing I never saw coming, it's Rogue and Thor verging on flirting with each other.

TexiKen

That New Avengers moment was cold, yo.

Balefuego

Uncanny Avengers also had Wanda and Alex getting snuggly at one point, and confirmed that Cap's harder edge in this book and other places is a result of his time in Dimension Z.

Crimsondude

Oh shit!

Centipede Damascus

Wanda's been acting oddly snuggly all over the place in UA. Simon, Cap, and now Alex.

Balefuego

How could you not post this part from New Avengers #8

TexiKen

She's pulling a Madelyne Pryor to get her revenge on Cyclops. And Sinister is still out there....

Calling it now, Inferno 2 coming 2014.

Balefuego

TexiKen wrote: »

She's pulling a Madelyne Pryor to get her revenge on Cyclops. And Sinister is still out there....

Calling it now, Inferno 2 coming 2014.

There already was an Inferno 2, but it was written by CB Cebulski and so no one read it or remembers it and it vanished into the aether as it should have.

UltimateInferno

Hunger #1 Damn this was a really great issue in the Ultimate verse. Fiakov's rick jones voice was spot on and can't wait to see where this goes.
Rick Jones returns to earth for one thing after being out in space for a year or so.

Galactus and Gah Lak Tus meet.

The Flash #22 The Reverse Flash introduces himself to Dr Elias.

Superior Spider-Man #14 What could you ever hope to achieve here?

Balefuego

Goodbye, Shadowland.

Crimsondude

I could totally do without this Wakanda-Atlantis/T'Challa-Namor conflict ever.

BlankZoe

Whereas I find it extremely compelling and fitting of the "men making horrible decisions for conflicted reasons" theme of the book

Undead Scottsman

Ultimate Universe is FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED.

Crimsondude

Nothing this week is going to top Jim Steranko retweeting me.

.@iamsteranko It's easy to be cavalier with material when you have no context or consequence. Mark Millar proves that better than most.

Dizzy D

Balefuego wrote: »

Uncanny Avengers also had Wanda and Alex getting snuggly at one point, and confirmed that Cap's harder edge in this book and other places is a result of his time in Dimension Z.

I'm pretty sure there is a Sis-code violation there.

Crimsondude

Let's not get Quicksilv.... Ohhh....

Kyougu

Can someone give context to YA scan?

Phillishere

Kyougu wrote: »

Can someone give context to YA scan?

Leah was Young Loki's sidekick in Journey to Mystery. It did not turn out well.

UnbrokenEva

Phillishere wrote: »

Kyougu wrote: »

Can someone give context to YA scan?

Leah was Young Loki's sidekick in Journey to Mystery. It did not turn out well.

to be fair, Loki was in a bad spot

He had to turn his body over to an evil version of himself, and wanted to keep Leah away from that to protect her, except he wasn't able to tell her or anyone else what was happening or why. He asked Leah's boss/master Hela to send Leah away from him, and Hela did so by sending her to the distant past.

Linespider5

Yep, Hunger pretty much means things are over in the Ultimate universe.

There must always be a Galactus for every universe. Since 616 Galactus just absorbed Gah Lak Tus, well... No more Galactus, no more universe.

UnbrokenEva

Linespider5 wrote: »

Yep, Hunger pretty much means things are over in the Ultimate universe.

There must always be a Galactus for every universe. Since 616 Galactus just absorbed Gah Lak Tus, well... No more Galactus, no more universe.

though I'm curious if Galactus not being present in 616 is opening the door for Abraxas

because that would be very bad, and the multiverse is fucked enough at the moment

Antimatter

The result served to re-create a reality in which Abraxas never existed, and since all that was had ended, all that is was realigned, allowing Mister Fantastic to survive along with all those who died in Abraxas' reign of terror.

doubtful

UnbrokenEva

oh, fair enough. I missed that and thought things had been reset prior to Abraxas' escape

though like I said, 616 is boned enough right now Abraxas would just be overkill

CorporateLogo

How could a Santana album make things worse for Marvel

Undead Scottsman

Well, according to one of the writers

Gah-Lak-Tus has been overly effective, leaving the Ultimate Universe mostly devoid of life outside of like the Kree and Chitauri/Skrulls

Hawkstone

CorporateLogo wrote: »

How could a Santana album make things worse for Marvel

The guitar solo that swallowed a continent.

MetalMagus

I still can't believe they jobbed out the Living Tribunal. That's the closest analogy Marvel has to an omniscient, omnipresent, all-powerful capitol G - God.

That + Hunger + "The timestream is completely fucked" story thread coming out of Age of Ultron = Maybe Marvel is considering a Nu 52 style universe reboot after all.

Kyougu

With how well Marvel Now is doing and how many things seemed to be planned? Doubtful.

UnbrokenEva

no reboot, but a lot of alternate universes are probably going to die

...holy fuck. I've figured it out. This is all a plot by Marvel to force Jeff Parker to write a non-alternate universe story.

Linespider5

I kinda figure that

616 and Ultimate Universes are gonna basically go the way that 616 and Ultimate Galactus went. 616 will take over with some beefed up finery and prettier outfits for some, cool new underlings for others. You know, like you do.

Undead Scottsman

Given that 2099 is going to start bleeding into 616 continuity as well, 616 may start to become a kind of multiversal hub.

UnbrokenEva

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

Given that 2099 is going to start bleeding into 616 continuity as well, 616 may start to become a kind of multiversal hub.

"start"

...also holy fuck. I'd been thinking of the Young Avengers storyline separately from the rest of the Avengers books because of that whole "interdimensional parasite causing all adults to be oblivious to the problem" thing, but it just clicked for me that the Young Avengers are jumping from universe to universe and going up against a interdimensional parasite at the same time as all the other shit is going down.

also the whole "America Chavez can kick holes in spacetime to make portals to other universes" thing

Phillishere

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

Given that 2099 is going to start bleeding into 616 continuity as well, 616 may start to become a kind of multiversal hub.

Uncanny Avengers has a Kang/future Apocalypse kids conflict brewing. The Young Avengers are multiverse hopping. The X-books are about to have a huge timeline mashup. Captain America's first arc was in an alternate univese. With the exception of Hawkeye and maybe the Defenders, it seems like every Marvel Now title is revolving around time travel and multiple universes.

Caveman Paws

I am old and stogy and prefer a pure 616 universe.

I am now Comicbook Hitler.

Golden Yak

I definitely don't want any sort of Flashpoint / Infinite Crisis history rejiggering to happen. Own what has come before. I barely tolerated the recent Age of Ultron temporal shenanigans. At least they

seem to have been fairly limited so far to bringing weirdo time travelers into the universe rather than wholesale rewriting of reality.

UnbrokenEva

Golden Yak wrote: »

I definitely don't want any sort of Flashpoint / Infinite Crisis history rejiggering to happen. Own what has come before. I barely tolerated the recent Age of Ultron temporal shenanigans. At least they

seem to have been fairly limited so far to bringing weirdo time travelers into the universe rather than wholesale rewriting of reality.

nah, the narrative context provided by the 616 universe's long & rich history is one of Marvel's biggest strengths, I don't see that going anywhere. If anything they're trying to fold the best parts of other universes into their main one.

WiseManTobes

Would it break rules if I posted the page prior to those 3 new avengers pages? The opening of that speech was so good.

Phillishere

Caveman Paws wrote: »

I am old and stogy and prefer a pure 616 universe.

I am now Comicbook Hitler.

Old and stodgy in Marvel terms means that you love you some alternate universes. That's exponentially true if you are an X-fan.

Hell, last I checked, the X-Men have had members from at least three different alternate universes in the book at the same time.