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Defenders Are Coming! Prepare Your [Comic Book Movies/TV/Video Games/Other Thread]

CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
edited November 2013 in Graphic Violence
Let's just cut to the chase with this summary of the current state of comic book films by Brett White.

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(Source: Gamma Squad blog, Twitter: @BrettWhite)


Anyway, the big news of the day is that Vin Diesel confirmed that he's voicing Groot in Guardians of the Galaxy. Speaking of Groot (and Rocket):

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Omg thank you Crimson, I just got back from The Wolverine and I had no place to ask
    What the hell happened to that movie around halfway, it completely lost it's shit! The after credit scene almost redeemed everything tho, that got me pretty stoked.

    edit: Also you are all welcome for Vin as Groot, I've been wishing that into existence since day one! I may or may not have delved into some dark magiks

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Sex magick?

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Blood Sugar Sex Magiks

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    I wanted Vin as Drax, but will accept him as Groot.

  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    So wait, Vin is Groot and Vision?

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Tomanta wrote: »
    I wanted Vin as Drax, but will accept him as Groot.

    Drax is already Riddick. Seems unnecessary.

  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    So wait, Vin is Groot and Vision?

    Has he been confirmed as Vision?

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  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    That was all speculation based on a picture he posted of himself in front of an issue of Avengers.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    he was in front of Avengers #2 and said that he had "Tunnel Vision"

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Maybe he meant he'd been too focussed on the character he wanted to play that he'd been overlooking other great opportunities

  • KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    he was in front of Avengers #2 and said that he had "Tunnel Vision"

    He's going to play the obscure non-mutant Morlock character Tunnel?

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    I had a realization that now makes me kind of disappointed in how Vin was confirmed as Groot ( tho that's more because every comic site was hounding him for days I guess heh)

    But, the official announcement should have been

    "I am Groot"

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    OH MY GOD, The Rock is apparently filming at a hidden location just outside of Enderby, which is barely an hour from me..... I can't breath, must find and hug The Rock....

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  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Go forth, my brother

    Fulfill your destiny

    Divine what it is that The Rock is cooking

  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    I can hug The Rock for you one day, if you want

    I will say, this is from Tobes, and squeeze him gingerly

  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Chris Claremont is being brought in to consult on Days of Future Past

    and the chances of the movie including mind control just went up 100%!

  • AgentAgent USAgent PSN: USAgent31Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Simon Pegg visits the Marvel offices and tweets this very interesting picture...
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  • JyrenBJyrenB St. AugustineRegistered User regular
    Everyone keeps latching onto that image of Pegg but not the one with him hanging out with Hulk or holding Mjolnir. The real story is being missed! Simon Pegg to play all of the Avengers in Avengers 2!

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Man I never even considered Pegg for Pym/Lang, but hot damn, he would be great as either

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    Simon Pegg visits the Marvel offices and tweets this very interesting picture...
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    unfortunately: http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/28196/simon-pegg-is-not-marvel-s-ant-man

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    I would prefer him as Elias Starr

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    It was probably just "Hey, it's my best friend's movie's hero."

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  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    He's too busy with other huge movies anyway:

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  • AmiguAmigu Registered User regular
    I just watched a prescreening of Kick-Ass 2. I don't get why that franchise cops so much hate, it's pretty damn enjoyable. I haven't read the comics, they probably suck, but flicks are pretty fun.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Yeah, I enjoyed the first Kick-Ass. Going to go see the second one today.

    I think that, due to the more mainstream nature of film, as well as the gargantuan budgets they're hoping to recoup, movies have to tamp down a lot of the stuff I'd find objectionable, or just not fun, about a comic like Kick-Ass.

    Like, basically every gross, depressing thing was stripped out of the first Kick-Ass comic, leaving a fun action movie. And Nicolas Cage doing an awesome faux Adam West.

    Meanwhile, the comic of Kick-Ass is free to be as nasty as it wants to be, because it's being produced fairly cheaply, is meant to appeal to maybe 40,000 people, and is a medium that doesn't draw a whole lot of mainstream scrutiny.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    My main worry about Kick-Ass 2 is that it'll take itself too seriously as a superhero movie. The DIY, wish-fulfillment aspect of the first film seems less apparent when you have Kick-Ass stepping out of shower with a body like Channing Tatum's. I liked seeing the characters try to be superheroes, but I don't want to see them succeed at it.

  • AgentAgent USAgent PSN: USAgent31Registered User regular
    The only part my gf had a problem with in the first Kick-Ass was the part where Kick-Ass bangs his gf in the alley. She was just like, did they need to include that?

  • AmiguAmigu Registered User regular
    @Munch very true. They had to reign it in a little so the Millarisms aren't as evident. The violence is still there though and somehow the fact that the violence is taken that little bit further really raises the stakes emotionally for me when it's in movie form.

    There are still a few scenes that I'd say are kind of shitty and sexist although it was interesting to see that they got a laugh out of the audience
    The villain try's to rape a girl at one point but can't get it up. It's plate for comedic value and then they just end up beating her

    I want to read the comics now to see how they compare.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    @Amigu well in the comics
    he just straight up rapes her. and then they beat her.

  • AmiguAmigu Registered User regular
    That's a great example of where a bit of censorship is a good thing.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    @Amigu well in the comics
    he just straight up rapes her. and then they beat her.

    Also,
    the girl and Lick-Ass aren't dating in the comics. In fact, she hates him and once sent him a video of her sucking a bunch of dicks for... revenge?

  • Oniros25Oniros25 Registered User regular
    @Amigu well in the comics
    he just straight up rapes her. and then they beat her.

    Also,
    the girl and Lick-Ass aren't dating in the comics. In fact, she hates him and once sent him a video of her sucking a bunch of dicks for... revenge?

    It's kind of astounding that Mark Millar's work could be so rampantly puerile that its content is actually improved by the meddling of Hollywood.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    cshadow42 wrote: »

    I don't know why this is news, they've pretty much been saying this since Miller went to go be the Fox liaison.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    I saw KA2 and liked it, much like I liked the first one. Then again I've ignored pretty much everything to do with the comics and only knew about "that" scene from the comics. This is my opinion pasted from another thread:

    It's very well paced for the first hour or so, and the characters are all pretty likable, but then it lulls later on before the big conclusion almost like the film had a sugar crash. I liked the first one and it still is one worth watching if it shows up, and that's kind of where it stays here with me. Good sound and fight choreography when it's not up against blatant greenscreens.

    The only downside is Hit Girl has a subplot about fitting in which almost feels like Moretz was gearing up for her Carrie role (and I don't know who the hell Union J is, I thought they were fake but it turns out they're real), but the subplot ended well with very good gross humor. The other weak part was Ian Glen tries to play italian mob boss but his accent is terrible. For as much as the comics are very messed up and very Miller this was well done, and Jim Carrey does a real good job selling an old man who wants to redeem himself. There's a lot of corny good vibes running through in the beginning but at the same time it's just kind of nice to see.

    And one of the villains, Mother Russia, is just super cool. She's Drago and what Cherno Alpha should have been put together, and there's a lot of damage for her to cause, some of it pretty original in terms of violence! And they actually show her getting a roundhouse kick to the stomach but the foot just bounces off her abs because she's a flippin tank and you go "whoa"

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    So I think if you liked the first one you'll like this one, and I don't really get why it's so low compared to other films this season. I think people might have heard about the comics being irredeemable and are punishing the movie in response.

  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    Quick thoughts on Kick-Ass 2.

    -Underneath all his facial prosthetics and bulky costuming, Jim Carrey's unrecognizable in this film, and he gives a really fun performance.

    -Chloe Moretz manages to be the best and worst thing about this movie, with her character arc dragging the middle portion of the movie to a halt, and her cartwheeling action scenes being a highlight.

    -Man, didn't that Tumor dude look like Zach Galifianakis? Am I alone here?

    -John Leguizamo is great, bringing a ton of charisma to every line he delivers. Wish they'd given him a little more to work with.

    -Overall, the movie just feels kind of disjointed. The pacing is off, the characters feel lifeless, just moving from one plot point to the next, with nothing in the film really impacting them, and the tone's all over the place, vacillating from deadly serious to poop jokes, every couple of minutes.

    I think it's a fun movie, but save a few bucks, and catch it as a matinee.
    -Seriously, did Hit-Girl's feelings of ostracization really need a whole subplot about trying to fit into high school, accompanied by a cast of antagonistic Mean Girls? That whole thing was rather interminable.

    -Mother Russia rips a car door off a police cruiser, and her punches don't destroy a fifteen year old girl?

    -The running gag about the shark cracked me up.

    -After the first film, where the heroes gleefully gunned down mafia enforcers, dismembered drug dealers, and blew up a mob boss with a rocket launcher, this film felt downright tame. Really, I felt like someone was really shy about showing too much violence onscreen.

    -Example: When the Motherfucker orders the Tumor to hurt Nightbitch, "badly," she gets away with a black eye and a few minor contusions.

    -Remember how I said the characters all felt lifeless? Seriously, where's Dave's reaction to getting dumped by his girlfriend? Or to having Colonel Stars and Stripes get stabbed and beheaded? Or to Nightbitch being threatened with rape, and beaten? These are all brushed away with barely a mention.

    -Meanwhile, the Motherfucker's best friend/confidant gets knifed in the throat, and we never see him repay this trespass? Or really alter his behavior in any way?

    -Ass-Kicker/Reverse Kick-Ass joins up with a group of psychopaths who have been going on well-publicized rampages, and spending a considerable amount of time around them, but never catches on that they're for real? The fuck?

    -What's with the big emphasis on promises in this movie? I feel like someone was making and then breaking a promise every five minutes. I'd call it a theme, but it never really came to anything.

    -Really, I feel like there's either a really good Director's Cut floating around, or this is just a particularly poorly made movie.

  • AmiguAmigu Registered User regular
    Yeah I think a problem was that the movies' tone was very muddled. As to one of your points
    I think that the guy who had the Motherfucker's friend killed to teach his nephew a lesson is the next big bad. I could go check in the comic...but I'm lazy

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Speaking of Kick Ass 2...

    I wasn't the only one that was weirded out about
    the romantic tension and kiss at the end

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    holy crap, DC Nation made a Shade the Changing Man short

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqTrdptLRrs

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