[TF2] Map Fortress 2: Pound Nails Into Your Dicks With Hammer!

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  • BlurblBlurbl -_- Registered User regular
    First few seconds is pretty much the story of my life as a medic.

    We have way too many good pyros.

  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    Blurbl wrote: »
    We have way too many good pyros.
    You don't have to be a good Pyro to push back ubers, even though that is something good Pyros do.

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    it's one of those things that isn't hard to do but many pyros don't have the presence of mind to do it reliably or at all

  • xzzyxzzy Registered User regular
    Really? Spamming airblast on ubers is like pyro 101. Even on pub servers everyone seems to know that.

    Now, being effective with the airblast is another matter. A lot of pyros point straight up which means the medic is just going to hover there.

  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Of course every once in awhile you get the heavy that can zero in on you even when he is getting bounced all over the map and it's all pointless anyway.

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  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    edited September 2013
    turtleant wrote: »
    Of course every once in awhile you get the heavy that can zero in on you even when he is getting bounced all over the map and it's all pointless anyway.

    It is immensely enjoyable to be that heavy.

    Fakefaux on
  • xzzyxzzy Registered User regular
    Pfft, forget the heavy. Push the medic out of healing range and let your team kill the heavy. Medic is always target numbah one.

  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    I actually do the same thing with stickybombs; set them up in the medic's path and the blow them, letting the knockback separate them and their uber target.

  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Explosives aren't as reliable for pushback, but the Loose Cannon's knockback can definitely handle an uber.

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  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Oh, yeah, they're not nearly the most effective at that particular job, but in a pinch it's saved my life.

  • Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    They are the most hilarious when the medic goes flying out of nowhere

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  • MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    It really is a wonder anyone plays medic at all with the nonsense they get subjected to

    awww yess time for my moment of glory, been building this for the entire goddamn roun- what do you mean you're out of primary ammo?!

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    It really is a wonder anyone plays medic at all with the nonsense they get subjected to

    awww yess time for my moment of glory, been building this for the entire goddamn roun- what do you mean you're out of primary ammo?!

    I like to help

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I like it when you're about to uber a soldier or demo and they rocket jump away from you at the last second and a pyro caves your skull in with a huge axe

  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    A medic will win a round without ever having to use an uber in a lot of situations though.

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    SLyM wrote: »
    A medic will win a round without ever having to use an uber in a lot of situations though.
    Such as? Barring random crits or getting shot in the face by a sniper, I rarely go through a life without using an uber, let alone a whole round.

    KOTH maps tend to be the exception.

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Now that I think about it lots of soldiers seem totally cool with rocket jumping to safety and leaving me to get torn apart by a swarm of scouts

  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    I'm saying that you never need to actually uber to cause your team to win as a medic in a lot of situations. Just existing and being a medic is often enough.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    just use the musketeer rule as a medic and never be in a group of less than three

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  • Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Now that I think about it lots of soldiers seem totally cool with rocket jumping to safety and leaving me to get torn apart by a swarm of scouts

    he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.... he who sticks around with a medic who doesn't drop that uber, waits 15 seconds for respawn

  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    I hate healing a combat class that is afraid of getting into combat. Just... you have 300 health! Hit the front lines!

  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Now that I think about it lots of soldiers seem totally cool with rocket jumping to safety and leaving me to get torn apart by a swarm of scouts

    he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.... he who sticks around with a medic who doesn't drop that uber, waits 15 seconds for respawn

    I love when you're reinforcing a big push as a medic and you're like, "Well, that guy's about to die, I bet if I heal him for a moment he'll push up thinking I'll uber him and take out a couple guys, which'll open things up nicely after he dies and I give the REAL uber to this guy..."

    For a supposedly "helping" class, playing medic can encourage a wonderfully utilitarian approach to your teammates' lives.

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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I hate healing a combat class that is afraid of getting into combat. Just... you have 300 health! Hit the front lines!

    There is nothing more frustrating than sitting on an uber with a Sentry gun around the corner, and these milquetoast motherfuckers refuse to get in there until I actually pop the damn thing.

    Sure, let's waste several seconds of uber for you to walk around the corner so that the Engie can heal his gun through the remaining seconds of it and we can go back to square zero because you didn't have the testicular/ovarian fortitude to get the fuck in there and trust your motherfucking medic.

  • Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    a bunch of people get let down by bad medics

    makes 'em think badly of all medics

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    a bunch of people get let down by bad medics
    Medics get let down by bad teammates all the fucking time. Usually the only players that get "let down" by me are the idiots who automatically assume they'll be getting ubered simply because a) I'm healing them, and b) I'm at 100%. I have a microphone, I'll inform you if/when we're pushing.

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    yeah uh getting "let down" by a medic is often code for "medic did not follow me into certain death"

  • Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
    I'll be honest, the only times I can think of being "let down" by a medic is when they had an uber ready, we were both running into a situation where an uber would be useful, and they didn't use it until we were both quite dead.

    which, as a thing that happens, is still a damn rare thing.

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  • Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
    usually, if a medic dies before me, it's because I didn't notice them saying "there's a spy/scout/pyro after me".

    I'm trying to get better at caring for one's medic, I really am. sometimes I even remember to give them sandwiches.

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    Well you can get let down by your medic like derping out and not running in front of you to body-block a sentry (LEARN), or occasionally those dim bulbs who seem to insist on walking ahead of you so they can see what's going on.

    Or if you're playing vaccinator there's way more room for screwing up, then you need to always hit the right resists and when there's multiple damage types coming in know which one's a higher damage source immediately.

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Kana wrote: »
    or occasionally those dim bulbs who seem to insist on walking ahead of you so they can see what's going on.

    ...you're a dim bulb........

  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    yeah uh getting "let down" by a medic is often code for "medic did not follow me into certain death"

    Shit, that's happened to me so many times. These days once the Ubercharge is about to run out I'm already planning my escape route, while that idiot soldier is still trying to take on half the enemy team. Good luck with that buddy, I'm going this way.

  • CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    http://youtu.be/NocI-TT832E

    http://youtu.be/ZncNge8LIL4

    Part 2 did not go where I was expecting it to.

  • Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    Fakefaux wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    yeah uh getting "let down" by a medic is often code for "medic did not follow me into certain death"

    Shit, that's happened to me so many times. These days once the Ubercharge is about to run out I'm already planning my escape route, while that idiot soldier is still trying to take on half the enemy team. Good luck with that buddy, I'm going this way.

    I play pubs too often... usually at this point I'm chasing after the medic who keeps pressing further towards enemy lines... hoping that I'll be able to keep enemy distracted long enough for the medic to realize they're not ubered anymore and should probably retreat.

  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Fakefaux wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    yeah uh getting "let down" by a medic is often code for "medic did not follow me into certain death"

    Shit, that's happened to me so many times. These days once the Ubercharge is about to run out I'm already planning my escape route, while that idiot soldier is still trying to take on half the enemy team. Good luck with that buddy, I'm going this way.

    I play pubs too often... usually at this point I'm chasing after the medic who keeps pressing further towards enemy lines... hoping that I'll be able to keep enemy distracted long enough for the medic to realize they're not ubered anymore and should probably retreat.

    To be fair, my cavalier attitude towards self preservation in these cases means I've probably abandoned more than a few teammates to die when, if I had stuck with them, they might have survived. But, you know, fuck 'em.

    Fakefaux on
  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    I hate healing a combat class that is afraid of getting into combat. Just... you have 300 health! Hit the front lines!

    There is nothing more frustrating than sitting on an uber with a Sentry gun around the corner, and these milquetoast motherfuckers refuse to get in there until I actually pop the damn thing.

    Sure, let's waste several seconds of uber for you to walk around the corner so that the Engie can heal his gun through the remaining seconds of it and we can go back to square zero because you didn't have the testicular/ovarian fortitude to get the fuck in there and trust your motherfucking medic.

    I never trust the medic to be competent enough to do this

    not without reasonable assurance

    such as: "Hey, Sarukun is healing me. He's legit, let's do this."

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  • Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    There are a lot of factors that go into such decisions. If a medic has an uber ready and I'm playing Demo I won't just go out there and attempt the push unless one or two other teammates are there to back it up. Heading in to smash the sentries won't do any good if the rest of the team is still on the approach. Understandably a few medics would want to use that uber before somebody lobs a crit rocket at us or something, and think of my hesitance as uselessness.

    As a medic I usually say something like "I'm ready whenever you are" to tell my buddy I'm okay with them pushing, I'll support them.

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  • Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    Fakefaux wrote: »
    Fakefaux wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    yeah uh getting "let down" by a medic is often code for "medic did not follow me into certain death"

    Shit, that's happened to me so many times. These days once the Ubercharge is about to run out I'm already planning my escape route, while that idiot soldier is still trying to take on half the enemy team. Good luck with that buddy, I'm going this way.

    I play pubs too often... usually at this point I'm chasing after the medic who keeps pressing further towards enemy lines... hoping that I'll be able to keep enemy distracted long enough for the medic to realize they're not ubered anymore and should probably retreat.

    To be fair, my cavalier attitude towards self preservation in these cases means I've probably abandoned more than a few teammates to die when, if I had stuck with them, they might have survived. But, you know, fuck 'em.

    Weigh the risks, abandon the teammate who is an unsafe bet for your survival. That soldier who would let you die will be replaced by another soldier who is waiting around the corner. You, as the medic with a 65% uber charge, are likely the only medic on the team, and that uber is going to take time to build up again if you die.

  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Fakefaux wrote: »
    Fakefaux wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    yeah uh getting "let down" by a medic is often code for "medic did not follow me into certain death"

    Shit, that's happened to me so many times. These days once the Ubercharge is about to run out I'm already planning my escape route, while that idiot soldier is still trying to take on half the enemy team. Good luck with that buddy, I'm going this way.

    I play pubs too often... usually at this point I'm chasing after the medic who keeps pressing further towards enemy lines... hoping that I'll be able to keep enemy distracted long enough for the medic to realize they're not ubered anymore and should probably retreat.

    To be fair, my cavalier attitude towards self preservation in these cases means I've probably abandoned more than a few teammates to die when, if I had stuck with them, they might have survived. But, you know, fuck 'em.

    a very practical mindset

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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Calica wrote: »
    http://youtu.be/NocI-TT832E

    http://youtu.be/ZncNge8LIL4

    Part 2 did not go where I was expecting it to.

    Jesus Christ.

  • xzzyxzzy Registered User regular
    I'm sympathetic to the problem that audio (and voice acting in particular) is the most difficult thing to create in your basement, but those videos would have been a thousand times better if it had been more than mashing together random voice clips from the game.

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