From SUPERMANThe Ultimate Guide to the Man of Steel:
The Healing Symbol
Superman's emblem echoes the design adorning an Iroquois healing blanket that belonged to his ancestors Nathaniel and Mary Glenowen-Kent. The S-shaped symbol represents a snake - a great medicine animal totem to the Iroquois.
Superman's emblem evokes the power to heal. It is recognized everywhere on earth... and even beyond Kal-El's adopted world!
From SUPERMANThe Ultimate Guide to the Man of Steel:
The Healing Symbol
Superman's emblem echoes the design adorning an Iroquois healing blanket that belonged to his ancestors Nathaniel and Mary Glenowen-Kent. The S-shaped symbol represents a snake - a great medicine animal totem to the Iroquois.
Superman's emblem evokes the power to heal. It is recognized everywhere on earth... and even beyond Kal-El's adopted world!
Wha--?
There was this fairly high profile, weird, miniseries ages ago called The Kents that was all about the ancestors of John and Martha Kent.
From SUPERMANThe Ultimate Guide to the Man of Steel:
The Healing Symbol
Superman's emblem echoes the design adorning an Iroquois healing blanket that belonged to his ancestors Nathaniel and Mary Glenowen-Kent. The S-shaped symbol represents a snake - a great medicine animal totem to the Iroquois.
Superman's emblem evokes the power to heal. It is recognized everywhere on earth... and even beyond Kal-El's adopted world!
Superman killing Zod is kind of consistent with the way he behaves throughout the rest of the movie. He was portrayed as an arrogant douche who didn't have much compassion for people, who only helped people because it would be completely negligent and irresponsible if he didn't.
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TrippyJingMoses supposes his toeses are roses.But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered Userregular
Sounds kinda stupid.
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Olivawgood name, isn't it?the foot of mt fujiRegistered Userregular
Superman killing Zod is kind of consistent with the way he behaves throughout the rest of the movie. He was portrayed as an arrogant douche who didn't have much compassion for people, who only helped people because it would be completely negligent and irresponsible if he didn't.
Also his dad basically raised him to be afraid of other people and assume the worst at all times
Which, personally, I think would be super interesting if Superman had to straight up be a better person than both his dads in order to be Superman
Superman killing Zod is kind of consistent with the way he behaves throughout the rest of the movie. He was portrayed as an arrogant douche who didn't have much compassion for people, who only helped people because it would be completely negligent and irresponsible if he didn't.
Also his dad basically raised him to be afraid of other people and assume the worst at all times
Which, personally, I think would be super interesting if Superman had to straight up be a better person than both his dads in order to be Superman
But the movie doesn't do that
also it ignores 70 years of established character building
Superman killing Zod is kind of consistent with the way he behaves throughout the rest of the movie. He was portrayed as an arrogant douche who didn't have much compassion for people, who only helped people because it would be completely negligent and irresponsible if he didn't.
Also his dad basically raised him to be afraid of other people and assume the worst at all times
Which, personally, I think would be super interesting if Superman had to straight up be a better person than both his dads in order to be Superman
But the movie doesn't do that
I think that could have worked if they had done more to show how it was more about Pa Kent's own insecurities and fears of what people would do if they found out about Clark. That paternalistic instinct to protect a child to such an extent that it can hold the child back does make sense.
Superman killing Zod is kind of consistent with the way he behaves throughout the rest of the movie. He was portrayed as an arrogant douche who didn't have much compassion for people, who only helped people because it would be completely negligent and irresponsible if he didn't.
Also his dad basically raised him to be afraid of other people and assume the worst at all times
Which, personally, I think would be super interesting if Superman had to straight up be a better person than both his dads in order to be Superman
But the movie doesn't do that
also it ignores 70 years of established character building
See when I say, "Superman is boring" everyone gets all bent out of shape because hey there's lots of interesting, unique takes on Superman you can do.
But then when someone makes a different kinda Superman (no comment on the actual quality of the movie, haven't seen it yet), everyone goes, "How dare he ignore 70 years of Superman's character getting established"
If it's a shitty movie with a crappy jerk character then criticize it for that.
But if the critique is, "Well how dare he do something that doesn't match the previous 70 years of writing"
Then Superman is static and boring to me.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Please tell me this is a storyline where baby Superman is found by one half of a Hatfield - McCoy Kent clan feud
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A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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AntimatterDevo Was RightGates of SteelRegistered Userregular
so i just got Orion Pax today
he is basically pre-Matrix of Leadership/pre Supreme Commander of the Autobots Optimus Prime/Supercop of the Rodion Police on planet Cybertron
Superman killing Zod is kind of consistent with the way he behaves throughout the rest of the movie. He was portrayed as an arrogant douche who didn't have much compassion for people, who only helped people because it would be completely negligent and irresponsible if he didn't.
Also his dad basically raised him to be afraid of other people and assume the worst at all times
Which, personally, I think would be super interesting if Superman had to straight up be a better person than both his dads in order to be Superman
But the movie doesn't do that
also it ignores 70 years of established character building
See when I say, "Superman is boring" everyone gets all bent out of shape because hey there's lots of interesting, unique takes on Superman you can do.
But then when someone makes a different kinda Superman (no comment on the actual quality of the movie, haven't seen it yet), everyone goes, "How dare he ignore 70 years of Superman's character getting established"
If it's a shitty movie with a crappy jerk character then criticize it for that.
But if the critique is, "Well how dare he do something that doesn't match the previous 70 years of writing"
Then Superman is static and boring to me.
But something like Superman not killing is at the very core of his character
you can change all kinds of ancillary stuff about him and go for an alternate take on the character but when you start changing his morals and where he draws the lines on important things like murder then he's not really Superman anymore
and really, this next part applies to any character: if your idea of a unique take is to take a character who previously didn't kill and decide to have him kill someone now, that's just a shitty way of trying to mix things up
See when I say, "Superman is boring" everyone gets all bent out of shape because hey there's lots of interesting, unique takes on Superman you can do.
Personally, when I see someone say something akin to, "Superman is boring," what I hear is something close to, "A courageous, noble hero of virtue is boring."
But what I hear is even closer to, "Someone like Mister Rogers is boring."
And at that point, you are fucking wrong.
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Snowbeati need somethingto kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered Userregular
Superman killing Zod is kind of consistent with the way he behaves throughout the rest of the movie. He was portrayed as an arrogant douche who didn't have much compassion for people, who only helped people because it would be completely negligent and irresponsible if he didn't.
Also his dad basically raised him to be afraid of other people and assume the worst at all times
Which, personally, I think would be super interesting if Superman had to straight up be a better person than both his dads in order to be Superman
But the movie doesn't do that
also it ignores 70 years of established character building
See when I say, "Superman is boring" everyone gets all bent out of shape because hey there's lots of interesting, unique takes on Superman you can do.
But then when someone makes a different kinda Superman (no comment on the actual quality of the movie, haven't seen it yet), everyone goes, "How dare he ignore 70 years of Superman's character getting established"
If it's a shitty movie with a crappy jerk character then criticize it for that.
But if the critique is, "Well how dare he do something that doesn't match the previous 70 years of writing"
Then Superman is static and boring to me.
They mean that there are lots of ways to use a man of unbending morals in interesting variations and settings.
If you completely change who Superman is, you've just made someone who is similar to Superman, bit isn't. which has been done well!
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I still think Goyer's explanation after the fact was almost worse
Oh he won't kill now, cause he learned not to
Goyer
Do you think people need to murder someone to learn its not ok
He's like 30 years old by that point in the movie, right?
I mean, maybe the Kents just missed that part of his education, but I was pretty aware that killing wasn't okay at the age of 0
i bet i could take baby you in a knife fight
i don't remember anything pre 4 years old.
The first part goes without saying
Sure, it's not the best way, but you work with what you've got
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just don't have superman murder someone and you don't need to justify it!
Chris and my taste's often don't line up for superhero stuff but I love hearing him talk about this stuff
Huh. That's a new one on me.
Also his dad basically raised him to be afraid of other people and assume the worst at all times
Which, personally, I think would be super interesting if Superman had to straight up be a better person than both his dads in order to be Superman
But the movie doesn't do that
PSN ID : DetectiveOlivaw | TWITTER | STEAM ID | NEVER FORGET
I know, right? That preview had some good writing.
also it ignores 70 years of established character building
I think that could have worked if they had done more to show how it was more about Pa Kent's own insecurities and fears of what people would do if they found out about Clark. That paternalistic instinct to protect a child to such an extent that it can hold the child back does make sense.
Let's all send emails to mheroes@marvel.com about how we like the writing but hate the art.
See when I say, "Superman is boring" everyone gets all bent out of shape because hey there's lots of interesting, unique takes on Superman you can do.
But then when someone makes a different kinda Superman (no comment on the actual quality of the movie, haven't seen it yet), everyone goes, "How dare he ignore 70 years of Superman's character getting established"
If it's a shitty movie with a crappy jerk character then criticize it for that.
But if the critique is, "Well how dare he do something that doesn't match the previous 70 years of writing"
Then Superman is static and boring to me.
Please tell me this is a storyline where baby Superman is found by one half of a Hatfield - McCoy Kent clan feud
he is basically pre-Matrix of Leadership/pre Supreme Commander of the Autobots Optimus Prime/Supercop of the Rodion Police on planet Cybertron
he is so cool
As a big Fourze fan, that's an article that just got bookmarked.
Let's Play Final Fantasy 'II' (Ch10 - 5/17/10)
But something like Superman not killing is at the very core of his character
you can change all kinds of ancillary stuff about him and go for an alternate take on the character but when you start changing his morals and where he draws the lines on important things like murder then he's not really Superman anymore
and really, this next part applies to any character: if your idea of a unique take is to take a character who previously didn't kill and decide to have him kill someone now, that's just a shitty way of trying to mix things up
That would be a pretty terrible adaptation of The Great Gatsby, wouldn't it?
But any version of Optimus Prime that has the energon axe is A-OK by me, man
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Wait shit that is just Uncharted
I have never agreed with anything you've ever posted as much as I agree with this
The whiz-bang adventure movie just doesn't exist anymore! It got swallowed by the superhero movie and the explosion-filled action blockbuster
And that is a damned shame
PSN ID : DetectiveOlivaw | TWITTER | STEAM ID | NEVER FORGET
Personally, when I see someone say something akin to, "Superman is boring," what I hear is something close to, "A courageous, noble hero of virtue is boring."
But what I hear is even closer to, "Someone like Mister Rogers is boring."
And at that point, you are fucking wrong.
but what if he had a gun?
They mean that there are lots of ways to use a man of unbending morals in interesting variations and settings.
If you completely change who Superman is, you've just made someone who is similar to Superman, bit isn't. which has been done well!