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[PATV] Friday, September 6, 2013 - Extra Credits Season 6, Ep. EH 1: Extra History: The Punic Wars B
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[PATV] Friday, September 6, 2013 - Extra Credits Season 6, Ep. EH 1: Extra History: The Punic Wars Begin
Most of the research for these videos comes from: Polybius' The Histories And Livy's History of Rome But if you just want an overview, here's a wikipedia link.
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But yes, this is the best thing. Can we redo Khan Academy with Extra Credits people?
This might be due to relying on Roman histories to tell the Carthaginians story. If you're interested in hearing what we can reconstruct of their side of things, I'd recommend "The Carthaginians" by Dexter Hoyos - it's available for Kindle, and it's a quick and informative read.
I think you're thinking of Graham, Kathleen and the gang at LoadReadyRun, who are indeed Canuks and do Checkpoint on PATV.
Also, someone with a youtube account send this to.... someone.... over at THFE. Someone, can't remember (I wanna say it's mr. Pokefile? I dunno) over there is making a ton of videos about Rome II.
Lastly, El Skid, they're Canadian. Everyone on the internet is Canadian.
I really have a hard time "taking to"your dissertation on roman history after listening to the almost 200 episode podcast from this source. While I enjoy your work on video games, the approach you use is a bit too "abbreviated and paraphrased".
Nonetheless, keep up the great work guys! And grats on your effort , it is humanitarian and I highly respect it.
That was probably the most attentive i've ever been to a history lesson, and i rather enjoyed it to boot. Seems the reason i love your videos is due to your style of teaching, rather than my interest in the subject of games. Now if only there was some way to convince you to do a segment on chemistry
Rome was completely outclassed when it came to fighting on water. They were beaten again and again. Naval warfare at the time revolved around an extremely complex practice of careful positioning and ramming the enemy with the armored prow of the ship. It doesn't sound that complex, but this practice was so old that most ships were designed so that almost anything but a direct hit would glace off the ship. This meant that if you were lucky all you did was break the enemy's oars, and if you were unlucky you had to fight the sailors of the ship you just bumped. The Romans had absolutely no aptitude for this.
At some point the Romans devised a device called the Corvus (it's not really written who or when). The Corvus was a short drawbridge attached at one end to the Roman ship and at the other end was a sharp spike shaped like a raven's beak (hence the name). Most ships didn't have a collection of soldiers aboard. Even when bringing armies across the ocean soldiers were kept in separate boats that would often end up simply being tugged by the more capable naval vessels. The Romans would pull up to an enemy ship, drop the Corvus, and send fully armed and armored legionaries into the unprotected sailors.
The Romans sucked at fighting a naval battle, so they found a way to turn it into a land battle instead.
Also, I'm seconding LittleBlackRainCloud. If you want a much more comprehensive look at the Punic Wars, The History of Rome podcast is excellent and entertaining.
http://thehistoryofrome.typepad.com/the_history_of_rome/2011/09/index.html
Love me sum of the History of Rome Podcast, but in my opinion the podcast "Dan Carlin's Hardcore history" did the punic wars way more justice. Guy spends almost 4 hours on them (then another 13 hours on the 'death throes of the republic').
His website has some kind of weird, impossible to properly hyperlink to the right page-thing, but I'm sure anyone can manage to navigate their way to the right page by themselves:
www.dancarlin.com
PS: EC team, you guys and gals are the best!
You certainly seem to have a knack for making things interesting and engaging!
Nice work.
You should have asked to play a review copy of the game before agreeing to shill out for Creative Assembly. Those guys should have taken their extra marketing money and directed it toward some PLAYTESTING or, I don't know, they could hire someone who wasn't a complete boob to design the UI for the game (maybe re-hire the guy who did it in Shogun 2, even).
I've listened to both podcasts, and still consider the shorter in length but deeper in depth History of Rome podcast to be better for understanding Rome. The main advantage, to me, is that he goes into not just how the Punic Wars began, but much much deeper down to what historical precedents caused the wars and their deeper impact to Rome going well into the late Empire. As well as the social structure which led to it, and how and why that social structure existed at all. Carlin touches on these a bit, and tells you about it in a "how weird is that" manner, while HoR covers it in such a manner that by the time the Republic begins you actually understand and can sometimes empathize with why this is the way it is.
He actually started the events that led to the Punic Wars on episode 1, with the very basic founding of the people who would rise, fall, and rise to turn themselves into Rome. And even though he points out that Aeneas and Dido were probably fictitious, he goes into how and why that's actually important to understanding the Romans. History of Rome covers the entire history of Rome.
It's a grim shadow on the wall without the flesh to make it understandable.