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Legality of Dakimakura in the UK

WeskerWesker Registered User regular
I'm interested in picking one of these up, my reasons are my own and I'm not interested in arguing that.

However, all the sites that sell them are from abroad, and I'm worried that almost any of them with naked characters on them could theoretically fall foul of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009, and if picked up by customs could lead to be getting a criminal record or put on a sex offenders database somewhere.

Talking to people online, and googling around I can find no reference of this ever having been an issue but I wish to play it safe. Is there anything I could do here such as directly contacting customs for clarification (not sure how that would go, it seems unlikely they'd give a blanket answer - and outside that it's what, sending them links to specific items and saying is this okay?). Or is it something that I have entirely no reason to worry about. I've considered contacting the shop directly as they ship here, but again I would still be anxious that any answer they give is going to be motivated by self interest in moving product.

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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    As far as I can tell, according to that act it would only be a concern if the images are of naked children, and if that's the case, get out.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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    WeskerWesker Registered User regular
    ceres wrote: »
    As far as I can tell, according to that act it would only be a concern if the images are of naked children, and if that's the case, get out.

    Under 18, or give the general impression of being under 18 even if the character is explicitly not so (and we're not talking we'll design the character to look twelve and say they're an 800 year old demon, we're talking a more straight interpretation of that).

    And no it's not a concern just if they're naked.

    Did you even look at the act.

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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    If you want a finer interpretation than that you are best off consulting a lawyer who specializes, because from what I can tell unless there are images of minors doing things minors shouldn't be doing you should be okay. And I reiterate, if that's what you are trying to get hold of, get out.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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    DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    Get a pillow with a Gundam on it. Problem solved.

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    naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Wesker wrote: »
    ceres wrote: »
    As far as I can tell, according to that act it would only be a concern if the images are of naked children, and if that's the case, get out.

    Under 18, or give the general impression of being under 18 even if the character is explicitly not so (and we're not talking we'll design the character to look twelve and say they're an 800 year old demon, we're talking a more straight interpretation of that).

    And no it's not a concern just if they're naked.

    Did you even look at the act.

    Did YOU? The Act specifically deals with non-photographic representations of minors or those who could be minors. @ceres is quite rightly telling you that, if what you are looking for is a sex pillow with a child on it (and it increasingly seems as though you are), we will not help you.

    And seriously, if you ARE looking for that, I would suggest some genuine soul-searching and potentially some treatment with a professional.

    naporeon on
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    The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    65Meaning of “image” and “child”

    (1)The following apply for the purposes of sections 62 to 64.

    (2)“Image” includes:
    (a)a moving or still image (produced by any means), or
    (b)data (stored by any means) which is capable of conversion into an image within paragraph (a).

    (3)“Image” does not include an indecent photograph, or indecent pseudo-photograph, of a child.

    (4)In subsection (3) “indecent photograph” and “indecent pseudo-photograph” are to be construe:
    (a)in relation to England and Wales, in accordance with the Protection of Children Act 1978 (c. 37), and
    (b)in relation to Northern Ireland, in accordance with the Protection of Children (Northern Ireland) Order 1978 (S.I. 1978/1047 (N.I. 17)).

    (5)“Child”, subject to subsection (6), means a person under the age of 18.

    (6)Where an image shows a person the image is to be treated as an image of a child if—
    (a)the impression conveyed by the image is that the person shown is a child, or
    (b)the predominant impression conveyed is that the person shown is a child despite the fact that some of the physical characteristics shown are not those of a child.

    (7)References to an image of a person include references to an image of an imaginary person.

    (8)References to an image of a child include references to an image of an imaginary child.

    In fairness, I think the law may get you into trouble if they saw a sex pillow with a character on it that is considered an adult according to the source material; it seems like the judgement calls might get nebulous when we're dealing with highly stylized cartoon characters.


    My advice would be to not buy / import this sort of sex toy.

    With Love and Courage
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    iRevertiRevert Tactical Martha Stewart Registered User regular
    DaMoonRulz wrote: »
    Get a pillow with a Gundam on it. Problem solved.

    If you have to question the legality of a fucking pillow (pun intended) then I think it's best not to get it.

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    WeskerWesker Registered User regular
    naporeon wrote: »
    Did YOU? The Act specifically deals with non-photographic representations of minors or those who could be minors. @ceres is quite rightly telling you that, if what you are looking for is a sex pillow with a child on it (and it increasingly seems as though you are), we will not help you.

    And seriously, if you ARE looking for that, I would suggest some genuine soul-searching and potentially some treatment with a professional.

    I did. Ender has highlighted my issue nicely.

    The character is never given an explicit age, but is pretty clearly intended to be in her twenties or even early thirties (Koko Hekmatyar (nsfw) if you're really interested). But given the writing of the legislation this could still technically fall under it, and that's my worry.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    So don't get it and don't worry about it.

    I'd say yes, it would fall under that.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    .....Why did I click on that link

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    tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    Don't get a fuck-pillow, because having a fuck-pillow is creepy. It decreases the chance of fucking an actual women in her 20s or 30s to basically back to back lotto win levels of not fucking happening.

    Burn the $40, and it will be less detrimental than ordering the pillow even if it clears customs with no issues.

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    LucidLucid Registered User regular
    Don't get a fuck-pillow, because having a fuck-pillow is creepy. It decreases the chance of fucking an actual women in her 20s or 30s to basically back to back lotto win levels of not fucking happening.

    Burn the $40, and it will be less detrimental than ordering the pillow even if it clears customs with no issues.

    How does it decrease chances of sex with women? Are you assuming one who would own this sex toy would be revealing of this information to potential mates, do you know of a lot of people who discuss their sex toys with people before they've become intimate with them?

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    iRevertiRevert Tactical Martha Stewart Registered User regular
    Lucid wrote: »
    Don't get a fuck-pillow, because having a fuck-pillow is creepy. It decreases the chance of fucking an actual women in her 20s or 30s to basically back to back lotto win levels of not fucking happening.

    Burn the $40, and it will be less detrimental than ordering the pillow even if it clears customs with no issues.

    How does it decrease chances of sex with women? Are you assuming one who would own this sex toy would be revealing of this information to potential mates, do you know of a lot of people who discuss their sex toys with people before they've become intimate with them?

    Some of my best relationships have stemmed from the discussion of my vast butt plug collection, it's a great ice breaker really.

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    MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    Wow it got awfully presumptuous in here real quick.

    Some people like hearing about others' sex toys. Or playing with them when they come over.

    Yes people includes women.

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    zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Wow it got awfully presumptuous in here real quick.

    Some people like hearing about others' sex toys. Or playing with them when they come over.

    Yes people includes women.
    Agreed, and while I personally find sex pillows creepy. I also find porcilin dolls and clowns creepy, and I know ladies who are not thrown off by some or all of the above.

    zepherin on
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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Hey, this is not the place for any of that.

    I don't care who sexes what where within reason, and I'm pretty sure most of you screwed worse than a pillow during puberty alone. You can have your freaky sex debates wherein you pretend you're all better than each other because you do or don't fuck something in some other part of the forum.

    I think the best advice here has been given, and that's that if the OP is SO concerned that the thing he wants to put his penis in might be detained at customs he should consider not spending the money, or be prepared to lose both the money and the item.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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