Shooting at the Navy Yard in DC

Quid

At about 8:20 this morning at least one shooter opened fire on people at the Naval Yard in DC. The death toll has reached 13 people at this time. The area is a significant historical and research site for the US Navy.

Family members looking for information about their loved ones can call 202-433-6151 or 202-433-9713.

Anyone who needs assistance should call 1-800-959-TAPS (8277).

If you have any information regarding the suspect call 1-800-CALL-FBI.

Article link.

Graphic of the area.

Updates:

PantsB wrote: »

From LAT

District of Columbia police say they are no longer looking for other gunmen in the mass shooting at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday morning, indicating that the victims of the attack were all killed by a single shooter.

Photos and a small amount of info about the shooter.

More info about the shooter from TV: Served in the Naval Reserves from 2007-2011, was recently working as a contractor. Previously arrested in Fort Worth in 2010 for recklessly discharging a gun and some years prior for shooting a car's tires.

Navy bio

Quid

So living nearish there, the base I usually work at is extremely on edge. Security has been beefed up like crazy.

urahonky

The base here in Ohio locked down for a majority of the day too.

urahonky

I've been to NAVSEA before. Pretty crazy stuff.

Quid

That's something I don't get about this and hope they find out. NAVSEA just designs and builds ships. A shooting wouldn't actually do much damage so I can only assume it was to make some sort of statement.

urahonky

Quid wrote: »

That's something I don't get about this and hope they find out. NAVSEA just designs and builds ships. A shooting wouldn't actually do much damage so I can only assume it was to make some sort of statement.

I'm guessing it was a crazy Government Contractor that was hit hard by the sequestration stuff so he just eventually lost it.

Forar

Disgruntled employee/former employee is one of the old standbys the news seems to have already fallen back on, from what I've read elsewhere, but as is always cautioned in these threads, we should obviously wait for actual information rather than jumping to conclusions/assumptions.

enlightenedbum

FBI says it's this dude.

spool32

enlightenedbum wrote: »

FBI says it's this dude.

Ft. Worth resident?

Wonder why he's in DC?

PantsB

From LAT

District of Columbia police say they are no longer looking for other gunmen in the mass shooting at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday morning, indicating that the victims of the attack were all killed by a single shooter.

PantsB

spool32 wrote: »

enlightenedbum wrote: »

FBI says it's this dude.

Ft. Worth resident?

Wonder why he's in DC?

Not clear how recently he was a Ft Worth resident. He's not originally from there and may have been a contractor post-Navy career

Quid

This guy was apparently a prior naval reserve NCO.

Edit: Also a prior arrest in 2010 for shooting a gun in public.

Smrtnik

/crossesfingers
Dont be muslim, dont be muslim

emnmnme

Smrtnik wrote: »

/crossesfingers
Dont be muslim, dont be muslim

Either Muslim or Christian, Aaron Alexis is in Hell now.

AngelHedgie

Credit where credit is due - David Frum nails it.

Quid

PantsB wrote: »

spool32 wrote: »

enlightenedbum wrote: »

FBI says it's this dude.

Ft. Worth resident?

Wonder why he's in DC?

Not clear how recently he was a Ft Worth resident. He's not originally from there and may have been a contractor post-Navy career

NBC is saying it's his original home. Cable news though so yeah.

Speculation: Contracting is the most likely reason for him to have been out there. As a reservist it's possible he worked there while living in Fort Worth. Depending on a person's skill set and clearance they can be doing their yearly two weeks far from home. But this guy separated a couple years ago.

Daedalus

Quid wrote: »

PantsB wrote: »

spool32 wrote: »

enlightenedbum wrote: »

FBI says it's this dude.

Ft. Worth resident?

Wonder why he's in DC?

Not clear how recently he was a Ft Worth resident. He's not originally from there and may have been a contractor post-Navy career

NBC is saying it's his original home. Cable news though so yeah.

Speculation: Contracting is the most likely reason for him to have been out there. As a reservist it's possible he worked there while living in Fort Worth. Depending on a person's skill set and clearance they can be doing their yearly two weeks far from home. But this guy separated a couple years ago.

Navy bio (released today) says he's an aviation electrician. The fuck is he doing at NAVSEA?

Fencingsax

So apparently there some shots at the North Lawn of the White House?

Quid

Daedalus wrote: »

Quid wrote: »

PantsB wrote: »

spool32 wrote: »

enlightenedbum wrote: »

FBI says it's this dude.

Ft. Worth resident?

Wonder why he's in DC?

Not clear how recently he was a Ft Worth resident. He's not originally from there and may have been a contractor post-Navy career

NBC is saying it's his original home. Cable news though so yeah.

Speculation: Contracting is the most likely reason for him to have been out there. As a reservist it's possible he worked there while living in Fort Worth. Depending on a person's skill set and clearance they can be doing their yearly two weeks far from home. But this guy separated a couple years ago.

Navy bio (released today) says he's an aviation electrician. The fuck is he doing at NAVSEA?

If he was there as a contractor it could be a number of things actually.

Mill

Really wish we had more details on this. Depending on why he was there. Could be the disgruntled employee thing (if he didn't have a job there, then this wouldn't be very likely. I'd think most people that are disgruntled with the sequestration fucking them over, would choose a different place to vent their violence, but then again there are lots of people that are ignorant of many things going on around them). Could be the dude was crazy, the incident down in Ft. Worth adds some credence to this possibility.

Regardless, this is terrible. Also Frum pretty much nailed it, though I'm wondering how many idiots are going to miss that he is being sarcastic.

enlightenedbum

Fencingsax wrote: »

So apparently there some shots at the North Lawn of the White House?

Cursory glance at newsy twitters doesn't have anything on that.

Fencingsax

I'm watching the news in DC, and all I caught was that tourists at the fences were being escorted away and Secret service said that it was secure. May have been some "Here's what happened"d earlier stuff. Loterally got like 5 seconds before commercial.

enlightenedbum

Fencingsax wrote: »

I'm watching the news in DC, and all I caught was that tourists at the fences were being escorted away and Secret service said that it was secure. May have been some "Here's what happened"d earlier stuff. Loterally got like 5 seconds before commercial.

Shooting at a government/military installation in DC is going to get the White House locked down HARD.

Quid

All the government places in the DC area were pretty much locked down for a bit.

Jebus314

Mill wrote: »

Really wish we had more details on this. Depending on why he was there. Could be the disgruntled employee thing (if he didn't have a job there, then this wouldn't be very likely. I'd think most people that are disgruntled with the sequestration fucking them over, would choose a different place to vent their violence, but then again there are lots of people that are ignorant of many things going on around them). Could be the dude was crazy, the incident down in Ft. Worth adds some credence to this possibility.

Regardless, this is terrible. Also Frum pretty much nailed it, though I'm wondering how many idiots are going to miss that he is being sarcastic.

Was he being sarcastic? I mean he was definitely being flippant, but I'm pretty sure he believes in the overall point that he appeared to be making.

AManFromEarth

Some asstard threw a firecracker over the fence and was tackled.

No shooting at the White House.

jungleroomx

Holy shit...

Quid

Jebus314 wrote: »

Mill wrote: »

Really wish we had more details on this. Depending on why he was there. Could be the disgruntled employee thing (if he didn't have a job there, then this wouldn't be very likely. I'd think most people that are disgruntled with the sequestration fucking them over, would choose a different place to vent their violence, but then again there are lots of people that are ignorant of many things going on around them). Could be the dude was crazy, the incident down in Ft. Worth adds some credence to this possibility.

Regardless, this is terrible. Also Frum pretty much nailed it, though I'm wondering how many idiots are going to miss that he is being sarcastic.

Was he being sarcastic? I mean he was definitely being flippant, but I'm pretty sure he believes in the overall point that he appeared to be making.

From the article:

David Frum is a former Bush Administration speechwriter and one of the loudest conservative voices arguing in favor of new laws targeted at reducing gun violence.

enlightenedbum

Jebus314 wrote: »

Mill wrote: »

Really wish we had more details on this. Depending on why he was there. Could be the disgruntled employee thing (if he didn't have a job there, then this wouldn't be very likely. I'd think most people that are disgruntled with the sequestration fucking them over, would choose a different place to vent their violence, but then again there are lots of people that are ignorant of many things going on around them). Could be the dude was crazy, the incident down in Ft. Worth adds some credence to this possibility.

Regardless, this is terrible. Also Frum pretty much nailed it, though I'm wondering how many idiots are going to miss that he is being sarcastic.

Was he being sarcastic? I mean he was definitely being flippant, but I'm pretty sure he believes in the overall point that he appeared to be making.

That we need gun laws? Yeah, he believes that. If you didn't figure it out by rule 5...

Mill

Given that David Frum is supportive of gun control, it's safe to say he is being sarcastic, since all of those rules are the BS that shitty gun rights groups try to impose any time a shooting happens.

KalTorak

IIRC Frum has also written articles recently about how ridiculous the GOP has become.

Quid

From MSNBC news:

He was working there as a contractor and lost his job while working there.

He also came in with just the shotgun and picked up the two other guns off of security.

9 years ago he was also arrested when out of anger he shot a work truck's tires that parked near his home.

jungleroomx

Quid wrote: »

From MSNBC news:

He was working there as a contractor and lost his job while working there.

He also came in with just the shotgun and picked up the two other guns off of security.

9 years ago he was also arrested when out of anger he shot a work truck's tires that parked near his home.

SHOULD STILL BE ALLOWED TO CARRY.

jungleroomx

Mass shooting occurs.

Blame everything from upbringing to liberal education to video games to movies to whatever.

Do not, ever, blame our gun laws.

enlightenedbum

jungleroomx wrote: »

Mass shooting occurs.

Blame everything from upbringing to liberal education to video games to movies to whatever.

Do not, ever, blame our gun laws.

I've got the Breakdown of the Black Family as an 8 point favorite over GTA5 is Released Tonight on which scapegoat is chosen.

syndalis

enlightenedbum wrote: »

jungleroomx wrote: »

Mass shooting occurs.

Blame everything from upbringing to liberal education to video games to movies to whatever.

Do not, ever, blame our gun laws.

I've got the Breakdown of the Black Family as an 8 point favorite over GTA5 is Released Tonight on which scapegoat is chosen.

Oh yeah, GTA Midnight launch.

That will be exploited by this news cycle.

jungleroomx

enlightenedbum wrote: »

FBI says it's this dude.

Oh no D'Angelo!

tinwhiskers

#3 is pretty shit

Rule 3: All gun owners are to be complimented as responsible and law-abiding until they personally have hurt themselves or somebody else

We generally presume innocence and responsibility, when reporting on the general populace.

Unless we are talking about black males, which everyone knows are irresponsible, shiftless and violence prone.

enlightenedbum

tinwhiskers wrote: »

#3 is pretty shit

Rule 3: All gun owners are to be complimented as responsible and law-abiding until they personally have hurt themselves or somebody else

We generally presume innocence and responsibility, when reporting on the general populace.

Unless we are talking about black males, which everyone knows are irresponsible, shiftless and violence prone.

His point is not that we shouldn't assume that, it's that they want to hear it from the rest of us all the damn time.

jungleroomx

tinwhiskers wrote: »

#3 is pretty shit

Rule 3: All gun owners are to be complimented as responsible and law-abiding until they personally have hurt themselves or somebody else

We generally presume innocence and responsibility, when reporting on the general populace.

Unless we are talking about black males, which everyone knows are irresponsible, shiftless and violence prone.

I think what he's saying is a lot of people consider themselves "responsible gun owners" until their kid ends up blowing their own head off because they aren't responsible gun owners.

KalTorak

enlightenedbum wrote: »

tinwhiskers wrote: »

#3 is pretty shit

Rule 3: All gun owners are to be complimented as responsible and law-abiding until they personally have hurt themselves or somebody else

We generally presume innocence and responsibility, when reporting on the general populace.

Unless we are talking about black males, which everyone knows are irresponsible, shiftless and violence prone.

His point is not that we shouldn't assume that, it's that they want to hear it from the rest of us all the damn time.

particularly when open-carrying-to-make-a-point.