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[Rocksmith 2014] Light your fire with 12 Hendrix songs. Next Gen is here! steam sale

TommattTommatt Registered User regular
edited December 2014 in Games and Technology
CHECK OUT THE 2ND POST FOR A LOT OF GUITAR INFO FOR BEGINNERS AND IMMEDIATE PLAYERS ALIKE. YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU PUT INTO THIS GAME, JUST LIKE WITH ANY GUITAR LEARNING METHOD. IT'S BEST USED AS AN AUGMENT ALONG WITH OUTSIDE PRACTICE SESSIONS.


UBI soft is answering my wish and making a sequl to Rocksmith! I loved the original, although it had many flaws, and hoped they'd make one with what they learned. They are, and the game is a huge step up over the original. While not perfect, it addresses every issue with the original, and is so good I find the flaws nitpicky. Bottom line is: If you have ever played guitar, or wanted to and will dedicate the time, then this game is for you.

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IMO it has far exceded expectations. Gamespot gives it an 8.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KNo1wNwj0w


Introducing rocksmith 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaXQLYS8kL4
Official Commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARNpfTdjbIg

Whats new
http://youtu.be/CrRTHQr9TFI
"rocksmith 2014 kicks the shit out of rocksmith"

Demo of session mode. This looks pretty awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWRfbd2ebEs

Heres another video of session mode playing some blue grass. I can dig this session mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPmofic_wFA

Video Tutorial of Session mode from one of the designers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mAehvLEzL0

So what is rocksmith? Rocksmith is a rhythm game like rockband, but not really. It has a cable that allows you to plug in a guitar, any guitar (or bass) and play along to songs. There are various game elements, but its actually designed to teach you songs and the guitar. Songs will start very simple, and as you progress, you will unlock the whole song. It is flowing tab basically. It also has mini games, and lessons, designed to teach you various aspects of guitar. One nice thing about Rocksmith compared to Rockband 3 Pro mode, is any guitar works, and it actually listens to the sound. Which means you can use different fingerings on cords, or say play an open string or on the 5th fret on the string above it, as it is the same note. It's all personal preference. Another awesome feature is you can improvise when there's nothing on screen, and not lose points for it.

Whats confirmed so far
Over 50 new songs (Confirmed songs spoilered , 20 songs unanounced as of yet)

*= newly revealed

Aerosmith – Walk This Way
Alice Cooper - No more mr Nice guy *
Alice in Chains – Stone
Arctic Monkeys – R U Mine?
Avenged Sevenfold – Bat Country
B'z - Ultra Soul
Bob Dylan – Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door
Boston - Peace of mind *
Bush - Machinehead *
Def Lepard - Pour some sugar on me
Deftones - My own summer
EarlyRise - Wasteland
Fang Island - Chompers *
Foo FIghters - Everlong *
Gold MOtel - Brand new Kind of blue *
Green Day - Kid X
Iron Maiden – The Trooper
Jack White – Sixteen Saltines
JAWS - Stay in *
Joe Sariani - Satch Boogie *
Kiss – Rock And Roll All Nite
La Sera – Love That’s Gone
Magic Wands - Black magic *
Mastodon – Blood and Thunder
Minus the bear - Cold COmpany *
Monster truck - Sweet MOuntain River *
Muse - Knights of Cydonia*
Oasis – Don’t Look Back In Anger
Pantera – Cemetery Gates
Paramore – Now
PAWS - Sore Tummy *
Queen - WE are the champions *
Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop *
Ratt - Round and round
R.E.M. – Losing My Religion
Radiohead – Paranoid Android
Red Fang – Wires
Rise Against – Savior
Rush - Spirit of the radio
Screaming Females – Rotten Apple
Slayer – War Ensemble
Splashh – All I Wanna Do
Sytem of a Down - Hypnotize *
Tak Matsumoto - Go Further *
The Dear huner - Stuck on a Wire Out on a Fence *
The Kinks – You Really Got Me
The Police - Every Breath you Take *
The Rolling Stones – Paint It, Black
The Shins – For A Fool
The Smashing Pumpkins – Cherub Rock (pre-order bonus)
The Smashing Pumpkins – The Chimera
The Who – My Generation
Tom Petty- Mary Janes last dance
Weezer – Say It Ain’t So
White Zombie – Thunder Kiss ‘65

Video of iron maiden to see the interface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nb2M4rcjEs

And say it so, something slower, shows how it shows what finger to use on the fretboard, and master mode kicking in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bJmMJng2Jw

And lets add something to give us nightmares
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY7MHSnxvEU


All existing DLC will work, and many songs from rocksmith 1 will import over for a licensing fee ala rock band

List of dlc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_downloadable_songs_for_Rocksmith

list of songs in rocksmith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocksmith


Whats confirmed new?
More than 85 lessons
"There's also a handy finger position guide on the interface now, which is one of the most helpful learning tools added to the 2014 edition. This is a huge improvement to the game as it teaches new users how to form chords in the most efficient way possible to easily move to other shapes."
Unlock full song from the start and various levels
Master mode (no chart ) fades in and out notes depending on how you're doing
Missions depending on what your weak on
New guitarcade modes (Guitarcade is a collection of mini games teaching you various things. Typing of the dead with chords, scales in a temple run type game, space invaders style fret familiarization)
Guitarcade video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi2Tm5LU_fE

Session mode "One of the more interesting new features is session mode, where you can set a key, pick a scale and start jamming with a band that plays along to your rhythm. This is great for both the beginner who wants to learn scales in a more dynamic environment as well as for more experienced guitarists who want to try out new riffs with a full band."

Looking at the video, it looks like it fixes a lot of my complaints about the first game. I love that you can go in, set all the songs to 100%, except the solo's. Plus I hope the learning /leveling up is better/quicker, as it appears to be. I think it looks pretty awesome as I loved the first one.

I'm sure many are wondering if you can use this to learn guitar. The simple answer is yes. You could and can learn from just this, and it should be a fun experience. But, like with any instrument, it's going to come down to the time and practice you put into it. If you're serious about learning, I'd highly recommend these games, along with a lesson or two at the least to learn proper form, youtube videos, and practicing in your spare time. I'm an intermediate player and I love this game. I picked up the first one as I was really learning all my scales, and it was amazing to be able to practice them so fluidly. Sight reading a song really depends on you having a understanding and muscle memory of where you're fingers should be.

Wait, check this out. Proof of somebody learning through rocksmith. You're not going to let a little girl do better than you are you? C'mon big man (or woman), learn to shred and take her candy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M01R_XTue8
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So you got rocksmith on PC and want to play with the settings? Here's a guide by Banzai5150 from the forums
Banzai5150 wrote: »
Banzai5150 wrote: »
The first line you want to fiddle with is "LatencyBuffer=", I believe it defaults to 4, the fastest machines can run it on 1 supposedly, but I can only muster a 2. How to tell? Turn it down to 1, start up RS14, does it make bad noises then quit, change to 2, and retry till you hear it normally and clear.

Next "MaxOutputBufferSize=" is defaulted to 0, which really means 1024. Try cutting it in halves. 512, 256, 128, etc... when you're to low of a value the sound will distort and sound like crap. Basic methodology is start at 512, sound ok? Halve it, sound ok? keep halving till it sound bad, then go back up to last good number, and then halve that integral, etc. Or just go down to doing it by 2's.

Once that's all set, then you will need to play around with the in game Setting, and that's just a pain in the ass. I've left mine at 50.


Here's my current file:
[Audio]
EnableMicrophone=0
ExclusiveMode=1
LatencyBuffer=2
ForceDefaultPlaybackDevice=
ForceWDM=0
ForceDirectXSink=0
Win32UltraLowLatencyMode=1
DumpAudioLog=0
MaxOutputBufferSize=148
[Renderer.Win32]
ShowGamepadUI=0
ScreenWidth=1920
ScreenHeight=1080
Fullscreen=2
VisualQuality=2
RenderingWidth=0
RenderingHeight=0
EnablePostEffects=1
EnableShadows=1
EnableHighResScope=1
EnableDepthOfField=1
EnablePerPixelLighting=1
MsaaSamples=4
DisableBrowser=0
[Net]
UseProxy=1
Banzai5150 wrote: »
Banzai5150 wrote: »
The first line you want to fiddle with is "LatencyBuffer=", I believe it defaults to 4, the fastest machines can run it on 1 supposedly, but I can only muster a 2. How to tell? Turn it down to 1, start up RS14, does it make bad noises then quit, change to 2, and retry till you hear it normally and clear.

Next "MaxOutputBufferSize=" is defaulted to 0, which really means 1024. Try cutting it in halves. 512, 256, 128, etc... when you're to low of a value the sound will distort and sound like crap. Basic methodology is start at 512, sound ok? Halve it, sound ok? keep halving till it sound bad, then go back up to last good number, and then halve that integral, etc. Or just go down to doing it by 2's.

Once that's all set, then you will need to play around with the in game Setting, and that's just a pain in the ass. I've left mine at 50.


Here's my current file:
[Audio]
EnableMicrophone=0
ExclusiveMode=1
LatencyBuffer=2
ForceDefaultPlaybackDevice=
ForceWDM=0
ForceDirectXSink=0
Win32UltraLowLatencyMode=1
DumpAudioLog=0
MaxOutputBufferSize=148
[Renderer.Win32]
ShowGamepadUI=0
ScreenWidth=1920
ScreenHeight=1080
Fullscreen=2
VisualQuality=2
RenderingWidth=0
RenderingHeight=0
EnablePostEffects=1
EnableShadows=1
EnableHighResScope=1
EnableDepthOfField=1
EnablePerPixelLighting=1
MsaaSamples=4
DisableBrowser=0
[Net]
UseProxy=1


Weekly Rocksmith challenge. Every week we pick a song, and all try to learn it and post our scores! There are different brackets and people playing at all difficulties so don't be shy, jump right in! Banzai5150 is organizing it, so @ him to be added, or just post in the thread!
Here is where we post our scores. Usual PA PW
http://newtzgames.com/rocksmith/login

Also add what DLC you own to this fine document here and we can start adding that to available songs to choose from if we all have it
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auljgz0LOPw9dDN0NmtPa0I0RHhfRG1wcWg1RmQzSHc&usp=sharing
Message @banzai5150 to get access to edit it.

Results -
Week 1 Winners - Song Choice Blitzkrieg Bop - The Ramones

Week 2 Winners - Song choice Hypnotize - System of a Down
datac0re 1,214,923 98.46% 212 Gold 0 Strikes
Hard
Endaro 1,022,127 98.32% 281 Platinum 0 Strikes
Medium
mcdermott 364,215 98.90% 102 Platinum 0 Strikes
Easy
webguy20 80,622 100.00% 68 Platinum 0 Strikes

Week 3 Winners - Song - Wire - Red Fang
Master
none
Hard
Dissociater 1,429,583 98.61% 223 Platinum
Medium
Darkewolfe 724,297 97.61% 370 Platinum
Easy
None

Week 4 Winners - Song - My Generation (Rhythm) - The Who
Master
Endaro 786,336 97.71% 108 Platinum 0
Hard
Dark Raven X 430,865 96.56% 265 Gold 0
Medium
None
Easy
Anti-Sean 89,425 97.16% 65 Platinum

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Ok you got this game to learn, or improve at guitar. So here's some useful links and info.


    Just added Guitar Buyers guide 11/24 One of the best guide's I've seen for beginners on how to purchase a guitar
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvrVLVT8nBQ

    First things first. This is the pentatonic scale
    pentatonic-scale-1st-pos.gif
    If you learn nothing else, learn this first form of it. Use it to warm up. This pattern will be used a lot in music.
    Here's a good video of it by marty (who has a great channel for learning songs on youtube)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf_2eodyR_0
    And here is a resource with all 5 patterns in tab form
    http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/lessons/scales/major_and_minor_pentatonic_scales.html
    And another resource on it
    http://www.theorylessons.com/pent002positions.php
    Edit Actually this whole lesson is worth reading I think.
    http://www.theorylessons.com/pentatonic_scales.php
    added 11/24
    I think this may be the simplest and easiest to understand video I've seen on the different modes, and how they work, and basically how simple they truly are


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKbPIGnqt80
    And part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uhN5h1o7ww

    And a little bit more. Lets touch on the major scale and modes. In session mode, you'll notic you have the major and minor pentatonic, and then 7 of them with funny names. This is the major scale, and each mode that it contains. There are 7, so you can learn the fancy names or the positions and 1-7. 1 is the major scale, 6 is the minor scale.

    Here is a resource on the major scale
    http://endofthegame.net/2012/03/17/majorscale/

    Here are my thoughts I gave in reply to a poster if it helps
    The major scale has 7 notes, pentatonic removes 2 of these to cut it down to 5.

    guitar-maps-c-major_000.jpg
    guitar-fretboard.jpg
    2-2-1.jpg
    CAGED-Scales-C-Major2.jpg
    Not sure which of these images will help you visualize it better
    Right here is the whole C major scale. Look at the 5th fret, you can see the minor pentatonic shape. Look at fret 8. Do you see the major pentatonic shape? So the minor shape comes before the major. So if you wanted to play in A major, you played the pentatonic shape on the 2nd fret (It'd be Gb minor) Once you learn the shapes, it's just applying them to the positions. If you know all 5 of the pentatonic, you're not far from the full scale, and you'll be able to tell by ear by what sounds good and what doesn't sound good as well.

    One other things about scales, so you have your first position, C major, it's on 8 of the E string. Now, you know to turn it into C minor. Simply play the minor scale. Which is the 6th position of the major Scale. It is also known as the 6 mode, or the Aeolian mode. This may sound confusing. But what this means is, all those fancy names and complicated looking scales? They are just the major scale, with a different position of the scale, or mode, being played on the root. Again, look at the major and minor. The major is the first mode. Minor is the 6th. (theres 7 in the full major scale, 5 shapes in the pentatonic)

    Now lets look at the 2nd position.
    * EDIT WRONG PICTURE. I SUCK Maybe this will explain it all better http://endofthegame.net/2011/07/28/modesmajorscale/ *edit

    That's the shape you'd play at the 10th fret in the major scale. Now, if you were to play that shape starting at 8, the root (C), and made that your first position, you'd now be playing in C major 2nd mode, or C Major Dorian mode. (I might have the terms slightly wrong) but it'd be the dorian mode of C major. It's just moving that shape, it's all it is. Once youlearn it up and down the neck, it's just a matter of positioning it where you want it.

    Hopefully I didn't et any of the pictures mixed up, and this helped.

    Edit ok the pictures are all messed up. That's not c major in there at the end. Grrr I had them all I thought.

    And here is a site that probably explains it well
    http://endofthegame.net/2011/07/28/modesmajorscale/

    And here's an explanation by our very own @Roz that I think does a great job of explaining it as well. You ever know what keyword or phrase is going to help you understand it
    In music (and I must stress Western music theory), a single octave contains 12 distinct notes. Starting with the letter A, the notes looks like this:

    A
    A#/Bb (this is the exact same note, but is referred to differently depending on the situation)
    B
    C
    C#/Db
    D
    D#/Eb
    E
    F
    F#/Gb
    G
    G#/Ab
    A

    As you can see, once you finish the Octave it loops back around and starts over again. This series of notes is called the "Chromatic Scale". This particular version of the chromatic scale is achieved on a guitar (in standard E tuning), by starting with the 5 string open (open A), and playing each note from the first fret, to the 12th fret. However, you can pick any string and play the notes sequentially along that string and you are playing a version of the Chromatic Scale.

    Each of the frets on your guitar corresponds to a new note, often referred to as "1/2 steps". Each fret going down the neck is a half of a step above the previous fret. Thus going from A to A#/Bb is going up a half step. Going up a whole step is double the distance, or going from A to B (Open A on 5th string to 2nd Fret 5th string).

    Thus we can say that the Chromatic Scale is composed of 12 half steps, and if you prefer you can even call it the master scale as it is composed of all possible notes.

    All of this is critical to understanding the next portion: non-chromatic scales. Non-Chromatic Scales (and there are many types and kinds) are nothing more than a sequence of notes that follow a pattern. The default pattern for Major Scales is the following form:

    Whole Step
    Whole Step
    Half Step
    Whole Step
    Whole Step
    Whole Step
    Half Step

    This is sometimes written as w, w, 1/2, w, w, w, 1/2. for simplicity.

    Lets apply this to the simplest major scale - C. So starting with C we have:

    C
    D (1 whole step above C)
    E (1 whole step above D)
    F (1/2 step above D)
    G (1 whole step above F)
    A (1 whole step above G)
    B (1 whole step above A)
    C (1/2 step above B)

    You can see how we'e constructed a loop from C to C avoiding every sharp and flat in the Chromatic Scale. C Major is unique, in that it is the only major scale which has no sharps or flats (there are other types of scales with no sharps or flats).

    Note that for our example, we choose C as our "root". However, we could have chosen any of the notes in the chromatic scale as our root, performed the same process (w,w,1/2,w,w,w,1/2) and achieved a new major scale.

    Learning guitar

    This site seems really good, and has a lot of videos. It seems they have stuff for sale, but all the videos are free.
    http://www.guitarlessons.com/guitar-lessons/

    Gibson has a pretty useful site with some great video lessons
    http://www2.gibson.com/Lessons.aspx

    about.com actually has a bunch of lessons, here is the begginers page
    http://guitar.about.com/library/blguitarlessonarchive.htm

    This youtube channel has some good videos


    So you just got your first guitar, or a new guitar, and you have the beginners worst enemy. The TREMOLO Bridge! These can be awesome, but also suck for beginners. Here's an entertaining fellow who will tell you how to turn it into a normal locked bridge, and be able to reverse it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xkj8p4Z3Rjg

    Over all learning and learning songs Marty is the man! He has great lessons and lessons on learning songs for all levels. From basic strumming stuff to solo's.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/martyzsongs
    Alt picking. Learn it, Love it, Live it.
    There are many types of picking. Some more complicated types are sweep and economy, and are good to learn. But you must learn alt picking. Just like you have to learn to use your pinky, and other fingers besides your index, you cannot pick all downstrums. You'll want to when you start, and hell, James in Metalica played the whole rhythm part of Master of Puppets (and pretty much everything else) with just down strokes, but you need to learn to alt strum to get speed and endurance. Here's a great video on some concepts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpJNUGHxC3M

    Just learning to play lead? Venturing into session mode but not sure what to do? Just working on bends? Here's a video with some basic licks in the pentatonic scale. Around 1:55 in there's a nice tip on keeping unwanted strings from ringing out while bending. And at 7 minutes there's a nice little lick that is great to warm up with, and it sounds cool
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD_X15HoXoc

    Here's another one that does a really good job of showing how this simple little box can be used to create so many different cool sounds. Depending on where you're at, he may lost you at some point, but again, all he's playing is the pentatonic scale showed up top, and it's the shapes you'll see in most solo's in this game.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEWbJYDJetY

    And one more. Some very basic concepts, then accelerated to sound harder than they are.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUCe-BcbA00


    If you're diving into scales and or chord theory, this explains chord theory pretty well and seems easy to understand. I think it'll help with the understanding of scales to, as how their formed, and their different modes play with each other. Check it out
    http://www.museweb.com/ag/chord_form.html

    I'll add more stuff to this, but this should be some decent resources to get people started, back into it, and/or the right direction.


    3 useful videos on learning the notes all up and down the fretboard.
    This video contains a nifty little trick to quickly identify any note on the fly, by knowing the notes on just the 6th, and 5th string (for the most part) L Shape trick
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVACypyxTxM

    This one combines the scales you know/are learning/should be learning and a basic amount of theory (Mentions 3rds, 4ths, stuff like that, ) and goes about how to learn all the notes on the guitar. So far I'm thinking this is really good. Although my ears are ringing and it's making it hard to actually digest.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIYLFNBNAc


    And, if you're more of a learn by doing drills and such, here is a video with 3 drills that if you did every day, you would memorize it pretty quickly. It wouldn't be fun or pretty though

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8yaHkvSmq0

    And a video of Joe Walsh talking about setting up a guitar, in which you learn nothing, but it's just awesome to watch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKTXTWbI4FU

    And brain worms, just because

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1mG0feiEc0

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    fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    Rocksmith! This game is awesome!

    Just about the only game I'm still thinking of buying for 360 before I fully migrate to Xbox One, I was going to play Rocksmith tonight but curry & wine I totally fell asleep, going to have a massive sesh tomorrow!! First game is so good but so flawed, I still don't understand the black magic which makes it work but work it does! Those menus though, damn... The new one looks so much more streamlined, can't wait to see what other songs get announced :)

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    I was huge into rocksmith and it really got me back on the guitar in my spare the time. The big thing was I had spent time learning my scales up the neck, so then to be able to sight read and rock something was really rewarding. Even more rewarding was to take a break in the song, a riff I had been playing, and the key I needed to be in, to improvise.

    Sadly my save got corrupted during a patch and all my song status reset to day one. I had to go through the whole "I can't get no satisfaction" 4 not introduction. I couldn't take going back to one note every three seconds, and put the game down. Would like to fire it up again but I have 0 AA batteries in the house right now heh.


    As for this sequel, it seems like they've done some impressive work. Almost everything I could complain about it looks like they've tweaked it and made it better. And session mode makes it seem amazing.

    They've mentioned better sound recognition, but say the old cable works, so it seems they've improved their software tone recognition. Also, did you see it said No loading times? I'm thinking of stocking up on some old DLC, and am definatetely going to pick my guitar back up to build up some calluses and get that muscle memory back (Due to personal shit fucking with my head I haven't played guitar in over a year)

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    fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    Ah man I had a blast with RS today, went with guitar for the main and then some bass, but oh man, the menus and loading screens with repeated videos are unbelievable! Really, really bad. However, damn, I had so much fun with it, can't wait to try the new one! I still don't understand how it works, but as a long time GH/RB devotee, the fact you can just wail away and solo or adlib between notes is just so fucking rad, it had been a while since I'd played so I was rusty as hell at the trickier songs but generally a much better player, and man, all those great tones to mess with, what a game :)

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    I just got some batteries for my controllers, and am planning on firing it up soon and picking up the guitar. I have some MS points I got from the $5 for 1600 points thing awhile back, and am going to pick up some more DLC. There is actually a lot and the list is quite impressive.

    Also, I reserved the second post, I think I'm going to compile a list of websites, youtube channels, and other resources on guitar in it for beginners and returning guitar players who are picking up this game and checking out this thread. Although I'm really curious how the lessons in game will be, think they said 172 this time?

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Seriously, if it's as good as they say it is, I can't wait.

    They're resolving my two big beefs: Better learning guides for people who are still teaching themselves and better tone sensing.

    What is this I don't even.
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    Ov3rchargeOv3rcharge R.I.P. Mass Effect You were dead to me for yearsRegistered User regular
    How can anyone say no to Say it Ain't So?

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    I don't remember having any problems with the tone sensing. I was never worried about score or note streaks much, but it always seemed to recognize what I was doing. Or maybe I just was pretty forgiving after coming from RB3 and the Pro Guitar. Bar chords and such, it was sometimes tricky to get the guitar to recognize what you were doing.

    The big thing I hope they've improved is their charting. I know they go for a more learn the guitar approach. That could be why the Rhythm section is just rhythm, and lead is just lead, but even their combo charts seemed lacking at time. Compare to RB3 pro mode. You tend to play all the parts of a song, but seem to always be playing something interesting and fun. Sometimes in Rocksmith you find yourself wanting to be playing the other guitar part. So hopefully their charts are better this time around.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Some more songs confirmed. Added them to OP

    Today's announced tracks include Def Leppard's "Pour Some Sugar On Me," Deftones' "My Own Summer," Green Day's "X-Kid," Queen's "We Are The Champions," Ratt's "Round and Round," Rush's "The Spirit Of Radio, and "Mary Jane's Last Dance" from Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers.

    "GO FURTHER" from B'z guitarist Tak Matsumoto rounds out today's setlist announcement, joining the game's previously announced B'z track "ultra soul." A full list of songs featured in Rocksmith 2014 Edition is after the break below.

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    fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    Don't know the Green Day track but all those others are awesome, although I have most of them in Rock Band, just goes to show how cool Rocksmith is that I can't wait to hand my cash over for them all again! What a setlist so far, superb.

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Come, observe the majesty of the intro/bridge of Spirit of the Radio and marvel that Alex Lifeson is able to play it perfectly with a hand the size of a catcher's mitt and fingers resembling the finest German sausages, and weep that you don't have this power.

    No matter where you go...there you are.
    ~ Buckaroo Banzai
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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    This is all marketing but thought this video was pretty cool. featuring Jerry Cantrell and Marty Schwartz (who will be in the 2nd post when I get around to compiling everything for it).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFqaz_0A5mY

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    And here is how they brake each song down into a playable format for the game
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U__y-TVCSDE

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    One thing I'm curious is if the game will show/recognize "blues" notes in a scale. I think it's safe to say that in session mode there will be a setting for blue, it'll show the overlay of the minor pentatonic, blah blah. I'm curious if it will show the blue note in the scale, and recognize it for what it is. Or think it's a missed note. Would be a nice little touch

    Blue note is diminished fifth (Standard Am Pent. 5-8 5-7 5-7 blues scale would be 5-8 5-6-7 5-7 the 6 being the diminished 5th)
    http://12bar.de/cms/tutorial/scales/

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    8bitogre8bitogre San Antonio, TXRegistered User regular
    I CANT FREAKIN WAIT FOR THIS

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    This looks really really good.

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Has there been any word about it going up for presale on Steam?

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Has there been any word about it going up for presale on Steam?

    All that I know is that a PC release is confirmed. Not sure about presale on steam and all that (Does UBI have its own service they push?) There should be something as the Preorder song should be available for PC as well.

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    I don't think they do but I could be wrong. But I have Rocksmith via steam so it's attractive from a all-my-shit-in-one-place standpoint.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    It should be on steam again then I'd think as they're making the tracks importable (cost and which tracks make the cut hasn't been mentioned yet) at least on consoles.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Another video on session mode is up, and fuck does this game look more and more amazing. Remember how I asked about the blue note?
    Look at 2:14 in this video. They have them

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPFMDdMpttw

    I went and pre-ordered my copy last night from amazon. I'm probably going to fire up rocksmith tonight and drop some money on DLC I've been meaning to pick up in anticipation of it. Also, I'm pretty sure the first thing I'm doing is firing up session mode in this.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    I guess theres a color blind mode for people
    QnA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-TIgMa0uik

    Also, if you are going to get this or have rocksmith, look at the store now. There are many free song packs with some good songs. At least there was. I'm about to recheck myself to see if there's any new ones.


    *EDIT* For example the mega death pack is free. Which includes Hangar 18, Public Enemy No1 and Symphony of Destruction. 3 songs, by megadeath, free. ****EDIT 2*** I'm an idiot those are videos

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Pre order for this is up on Steam now if Anyone else was looking to snag it there.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    I've been playing Rocksmith a lot lately, and bought a few songs. One thing I'm really looking forward to is the difficulty adjustments. I can rock a lot of songs, and it's learning that. But sometimes it just throws way to much at me on my first read through. RS is still leaps and bounds above RB3 Pro mode in this (4 static difficulties) but I really look forward to the improvements in RS2014.

    Speaking of DLC, and gems people have downloaded and played? I think my favorite download so far has to be Alive by Pearl jam.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Edited the second post with various sites for learning, and a few youtube channels. Let me know what you guys think, and if you have anything to add.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Gotta make room for this in the OP somehow, but until then, I guess theres 6 more songs announced, but they're DLC or part of the guitar pack


    Guitar Bundle Will Come With 6 Free Songs DLC Pack

    London, UK – October1st, 2013

    Today,Ubisoft®revealed more tracks to be included in all versions of Rocksmith 2014 Edition™ aswell as 6 additional songs that will be available as free DLCs for all purchasers of the guitar bundle (Exclusively with Amazon in the UK).

    Rocksmith 2014 Edition™ allows players to plug any real guitar or bass directly into their Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, theSony PlayStation® 3 computer entertainment system, PC or Mac® to begin their musical journey.

    Rocksmith 2014 Edition™ will hit shelves on October 25th,2014 in the UK.

    Deftones, Green Day, Def Leppard and Queen are among the artists who join Aerosmith, theArctic Monkeys, Bob Dylan, Iron Maiden, R.E.M., The Smashing Pumpkins and manymore on Rocksmith 2014 Edition’s rocking track list.

    The Rocksmith 2014 Edition™ guitar bundle including the game, the "Real ToneCable™" and an Epiphone Les Paul Junior guitar, will come in EMEA with a free DLC pack including 6 songs:

    · Chicago – 25 Or 6 To 4
    · Albert King – The Sky Is Crying
    · The Hives – Hate To Say I Told You So
    · The Lumineers - Ho Hey
    · Them Crooked Vultures - Mind Eraser, No Chaser
    · Queens Of The Stone Age - My God Is The Sun

    Also, here's a nifty write up on how awesome session mode is. I guess Jerry Cantrell had a lot of fun with it.

    http://gamerant.com/rocksmith-2014-studio-preview/

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Full Track list just revelaed. OP Updated. New songs are

    Alice Cooper - No more mr Nice guy *

    Boston - Peace of mind *
    Bush - Machinehead *

    Fang Island - Chompers *
    Foo FIghters - Everlong *
    Gold MOtel - Brand new Kind of blue *

    JAWS - Stay in *
    Joe Sariani - Satch Boogie *

    Magic Wands - Black magic *

    Minus the bear - Cold COmpany *
    Monster truck - Sweet MOuntain River *
    Muse - Knights of Cydonia*

    PAWS - Sore Tummy *
    Queen - WE are the champions *
    Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop *

    Sytem of a Down - Hypnotize *
    Tak Matsumoto - Go Further *
    The Dear huner - Stuck on a Wire Out on a Fence *

    The Police - Every Breath you Take *

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Tommatt wrote: »
    Joe Sariani - Satch Boogie *

    I like what they've done with the UI, but this is going to be a jumbled mess on screen during the tapping runs.

    No matter where you go...there you are.
    ~ Buckaroo Banzai
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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Tommatt wrote: »
    Joe Sariani - Satch Boogie *

    I like what they've done with the UI, but this is going to be a jumbled mess on screen during the tapping runs.

    There are some songs where I'm not sure how clean you can make it no matter how hard you try. I am curious about how many songs will feature tapping. And lets be fair, by the time you get to a point where you can play the jumbled mess it throws at you, you'll probably know what to do by instinct for a lot of it.

    I've stressed learning scales to people in the old RS thread and the RB3 thread for people who are new to guitar or picking it back up. I never bothered to learn them until right before I got RS I believe, having played RB3 with the fender. The difference was night and day, especially on sight reading. Because I had an idea on where to go by instinct and muscle memory. For the most part, it really is just patterns you're playing on the guitar in any given song. So by the time you get to the skittles of 100% solo Satch Boogie, I think you'll have an idea of where to go at any time and not have to see every note.

    Although I am curious how it looks :D

    also I can't believe I'll be playing this at this time next week. Gonna play some songs/riffs I've always screwed around with in session mode and see what the AI band thinks it should do :)

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    acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    I just pre-ordered. I really hope the menus navigate faster than they did in other rocksmith.

    GT: Acidboogie PSNid: AcidLacedPenguiN
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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Tommatt wrote: »
    I've stressed learning scales to people in the old RS thread and the RB3 thread for people who are new to guitar or picking it back up. I never bothered to learn them until right before I got RS I believe, having played RB3 with the fender. The difference was night and day, especially on sight reading. Because I had an idea on where to go by instinct and muscle memory. For the most part, it really is just patterns you're playing on the guitar in any given song. So by the time you get to the skittles of 100% solo Satch Boogie, I think you'll have an idea of where to go at any time and not have to see every note.

    Most definitely, I'm all for learning as many scales as you can, in as many places on the neck as you can. Knowing what notes are under your fingers is the key to being able to improv and improve, and it's something that IME is very difficult to do if you're self learning and/or using non-interactive things like books and tab charts. Me personally, I like using lots of diatonic and harmonic minor scales, rather than pentatonic, cause I like to get my Richie Blackmore (pre-Blackmore's Night) on.

    No matter where you go...there you are.
    ~ Buckaroo Banzai
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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    I just pre-ordered. I really hope the menus navigate faster than they did in other rocksmith.

    It remains to be seen, but according to the game makers, there is no loading at all in the game once you boot it up. The totally redid the UI and menu system.

    Tommatt wrote: »
    I've stressed learning scales to people in the old RS thread and the RB3 thread for people who are new to guitar or picking it back up. I never bothered to learn them until right before I got RS I believe, having played RB3 with the fender. The difference was night and day, especially on sight reading. Because I had an idea on where to go by instinct and muscle memory. For the most part, it really is just patterns you're playing on the guitar in any given song. So by the time you get to the skittles of 100% solo Satch Boogie, I think you'll have an idea of where to go at any time and not have to see every note.

    Most definitely, I'm all for learning as many scales as you can, in as many places on the neck as you can. Knowing what notes are under your fingers is the key to being able to improv and improve, and it's something that IME is very difficult to do if you're self learning and/or using non-interactive things like books and tab charts. Me personally, I like using lots of diatonic and harmonic minor scales, rather than pentatonic, cause I like to get my Richie Blackmore (pre-Blackmore's Night) on.

    Ya I"m self taught since I was in HS. I learned the first form of the Am Pent scale, but had no clue how or why to use it. Improvise? Just keep hitting notes until you find what sounds good. It wasn't until shortly before this game that I learned the entire major scale (not sure i know it all the way up the neck any more) and then focused on the pentatonics. My improv definately improved, but to me the amazing thing was when I was playing this game as mentioned. I kind of had a feel on where to go in any given song, by the patterns, and more importantly, it helps you use the correct finger for each note. You know when to use your ring/pinky, or when to slide your index finger down and change where your root is.

    Even if you just do it for 5 minutes for a warmup, and 5 minutes as you end a session, you will learn it, and it will help your guitar playing and your video game guitar playing.

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    YogoYogo Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Tommatt wrote: »
    I guess theres a color blind mode for people
    QnA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-TIgMa0uik

    Also, if you are going to get this or have rocksmith, look at the store now. There are many free song packs with some good songs. At least there was. I'm about to recheck myself to see if there's any new ones.


    *EDIT* For example the mega death pack is free. Which includes Hangar 18, Public Enemy No1 and Symphony of Destruction. 3 songs, by megadeath, free. ****EDIT 2*** I'm an idiot those are videos

    This is so f'ing important right here. Too many companies release colorbased games which completely decreases a colorblind person's ability to play them sufficiently. I am colorblind on red, green and blue and I couldn't play Mirror's edge based on its coloring scheme (I never got the "flow" feel because I couldn't see where I was supposed to go).

    This piece of news makes me more interesting in picking up Rocksmith 2014. I skipped on the first one because I didn't have time for learning to play guitar (noob here).

    Yogo on
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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Also
    Yogo wrote: »
    Tommatt wrote: »
    I guess theres a color blind mode for people
    QnA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-TIgMa0uik

    Also, if you are going to get this or have rocksmith, look at the store now. There are many free song packs with some good songs. At least there was. I'm about to recheck myself to see if there's any new ones.


    *EDIT* For example the mega death pack is free. Which includes Hangar 18, Public Enemy No1 and Symphony of Destruction. 3 songs, by megadeath, free. ****EDIT 2*** I'm an idiot those are videos

    This is so f'ing important right here. Too many companies release colorbased games which completely decreases a colorblind person's ability to play them sufficiently. I am colorblind on red, green and blue and I couldn't play Mirror's edge based on its coloring scheme (I never got the "flow" feel because I couldn't see where I was supposed to go).

    This piece of news makes me more interesting in picking up Rocksmith 2014. I skipped on the first one because I didn't have time for learning to play guitar (noob here).

    I'm not sure what type or percentile you are in with your color blindness, but they said there's a small percentage that it still won't work for. Also, it seems to me that there's very little footage of color blind mode in that video. So all we have is a guy who is colorblind saying it works for him. Basically, I'd definately rent this if you can before buying (Although is there any way to get the game to play without a guitar hooked up? Just to see the charts) or watch some videos to make sure it works for you. Although with enough phone calls I'm sure ubisoft would refund you directly if it was unplayable for you.

    As a non color blind person, color blind mode in stuff like League of Legends, I really don't notice any difference.




    Edit
    Also somebody in the video game deals thread said best buy (or bestbuy.com ) had RS1 with the cable for $10.

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    YogoYogo Registered User regular
    The small percentage of severe colorblind people is like 0.1% of the colorblind population world wide. As mentioned in the video, there isn't really anything you can do for them when you have a colorbased video game scheme. "Ordinary" colorblindness can be cartered to by using a color palette which do not share colors of the same source via different levels of light. For example, blue and purple as mentioned in the video often become indistinguishable because a colorblind person has trouble perceiving different hues of blue, and purple's color is derived from red and blue. Both colors become the same when viewed in rapid succession because the key elements, which separates them, are lost.

    But yeah, rule of thumb is to rent the game first and test it out. I didn't have trouble playing the Guitar Hero games so I won't expect having trouble playing this (played for 5 minutes a year ago).

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    I'm kind of suprised. This game is out Tuesday, and knowing how video games work, some people probably already have the game in hand. So far, the price to export RS1 and which tracks will export have not been announced.

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    YallYall Registered User regular
    Is it safe to assume the lag will be diminished on a high end PC versus playing on an xbox ? I ask because I have RS1 and I had trouble enjoying it due to the input lag. Just that millisecond delay between hitting a note and the response in the game drove me nuts.

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    EndaroEndaro Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Yall wrote: »
    Is it safe to assume the lag will be diminished on a high end PC versus playing on an xbox ? I ask because I have RS1 and I had trouble enjoying it due to the input lag. Just that millisecond delay between hitting a note and the response in the game drove me nuts.
    I believe your input lag will have far more to do with how you're connecting everything, not hardware (it is not a very intensive game). How were you hooking up your audio/video?

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    YallYall Registered User regular
    Endaro wrote: »
    Yall wrote: »
    Is it safe to assume the lag will be diminished on a high end PC versus playing on an xbox ? I ask because I have RS1 and I had trouble enjoying it due to the input lag. Just that millisecond delay between hitting a note and the response in the game drove me nuts.
    I believe your input lag will have far more to do with how you're connecting everything, not hardware (it is not a very intensive game). How were you hooking up your audio/video?

    Audio was direct to headphones and video was a low latency BenQ monitor. In other words a pretty ideal setup.

    Lag wasn't horrible but just enough to make me put the game down.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    They've done work on the lag supposedly, believe they mention it in some of the videos in the OP. But the truth is, there is going to be some lag regardless. I never really noticed it once I started playing so it never bothered me.

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