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  • Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    You can't hug your children with nuclear-powered arms

  • scherbchenscherbchen Asgard (it is dead)Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    God, Slingshot sucks such a nut.

    Slingshot is good. it gets you a decent heavy with predictable spawns and early Muton autopsy. you also do not go on any other Slingshot missions. because those suck balls.

    way better than a bomb disposal you are not going to do.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    slingshot gets you a guaranteed early blaster launcher if you keep the resources from the final mission

  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    You can't hug your children with nuclear-powered arms

    Nobody likes a quitter, Dongs. Especially if you quit without trying.

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Oh I figured it was all clockwork down there, that's fine then. I dunno I seem to have a hang up where if a cyborg is more than 50% synthetic all the regular bits start seeming like liabilities

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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    You can't hug your children with nuclear-powered arms

    Well, you can, but they're usually instantly crushed and if they survive, they typically suffer from radiation burns and complications like leukimia.

  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    edited January 2014
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Oh I figured it was all clockwork down there, that's fine then. I dunno I seem to have a hang up where if a cyborg is more than 50% synthetic all the regular bits start seeming like liabilities

    Well, I mean, they also speak in a robotic monotone, so I think the implication is that there's quite a bit more going on under the surface, but becoming a quadriplegic in order to wear robot arms and legs is kind of... foreboding, I guess? It's an uncomfortable thought.

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Pretty badass robot legs though..........

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Oh I figured it was all clockwork down there, that's fine then. I dunno I seem to have a hang up where if a cyborg is more than 50% synthetic all the regular bits start seeming like liabilities

    Well, I mean, they also speak in a robotic monotone, so I think the implication is that there's quite a bit more going on under the surface, but becoming a quadriplegic in order to wear robot arms and legs is kind of... foreboding, I guess? It's an uncomfortable thought.

    I'd volunteer for it

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    I had pretty much no interest in the cybernetics and decided to create an entire team of genetically superior supermen. And oh my gooooood I just tried out that mimetic skin.

  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    I'd totally volunteer for the gene modding.

    Probably not the MECs, though.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    i would totally be a mec

    wouldnt go for the gene moddin unless there's a HOT LADY alien gene mod i dont know about

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    What if there is a mod to make you like a thin man and also make you think thinmens are like hot ladies

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    no.

  • Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    i would totally be a mec

    wouldnt go for the gene moddin unless there's a HOT LADY alien gene mod i dont know about

    I'm sure Vahlen has some experimental radical ideas kicking around, that didn't get official approval.

    That she just needs... Volunteers for. Who are willing to work in a draughty warehouse.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    I wouldn't want either. You know why?

    They both involve a field position with XCOM.

    I mean, base seems safer than a major city, but give me one of the labcoats, a clipboard, and a safe distance between me and the aliens any day. I mean, Vahlen's crazy but she seems to avoid taking it out on any of the humans involved with the project.

    Plus, in the original the pay was absurd.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    i would totally be a mec

    wouldnt go for the gene moddin unless there's a HOT LADY alien gene mod i dont know about

    There is a distinct lack of hot ladies in the extraterrestrial ranks.

  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    You guys do realize that they replace everything except your head, right?

    Everything.

    There are some facets of life that cannot be replaced by punching through walls.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    they only replace the arms and legs. it flat out says so in the interview i posted, and they said the same at PAX.

  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    they only replace the arms and legs. it flat out says so in the interview i posted, and they said the same at PAX.
    And in the game

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    My ultimate opinion of Enemy Within is pretty dang positive

    But I'd sort of like to see the next xcom project Firaxis does be a full on expansion, rather than a Civ style one.

    It'd be interesting to see what they'd do with a second one of this style though, especially given how historically (well, the past 2 anyway), the best Civ expansions are the 2nd ones.

  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    My ultimate opinion of Enemy Within is pretty dang positive

    But I'd sort of like to see the next xcom project Firaxis does be a full on expansion, rather than a Civ style one.

    It'd be interesting to see what they'd do with a second one of this style though, especially given how historically (well, the past 2 anyway), the best Civ expansions are the 2nd ones.

    how are you defining "full on expansion"? Just curious.

  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    I sooooo want a Terror from the Deep style expansion

    Or maybe an alternate campaign

    If they ever do a proper sequel for XCOM, I bet EXALT will be brought back

    Because they are probably just laying low

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    XCOM lands on Cydonia

    Discovers that EXALT has a hidden base on one of its moons

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    Tamin wrote: »
    My ultimate opinion of Enemy Within is pretty dang positive

    But I'd sort of like to see the next xcom project Firaxis does be a full on expansion, rather than a Civ style one.

    It'd be interesting to see what they'd do with a second one of this style though, especially given how historically (well, the past 2 anyway), the best Civ expansions are the 2nd ones.

    how are you defining "full on expansion"? Just curious.

    Something that adds an entirely new, but smaller than a sequel, campaign, rather than a modification of an existing one.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I read somewhere that the lead devs don't like Terror From The Deep. I wouldn't mind seeing that, because I think it's an interesting concept, but eh. Even though there's a sequel hook built right into x com, I don't really see where it goes from here.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Tamin wrote: »
    My ultimate opinion of Enemy Within is pretty dang positive

    But I'd sort of like to see the next xcom project Firaxis does be a full on expansion, rather than a Civ style one.

    It'd be interesting to see what they'd do with a second one of this style though, especially given how historically (well, the past 2 anyway), the best Civ expansions are the 2nd ones.

    how are you defining "full on expansion"? Just curious.

    Something that adds an entirely new, but smaller than a sequel, campaign, rather than a modification of an existing one.

    Firaxis doesn't really go for traditional expansions though. They're definitely "full on" expansions, they're just integrated rather than discrete.

  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    Well, Terror from the deep is a bad game

    But it is a real neat idea

    And I know firaxis doesn't typically do the full on sort of expansion, but I'd like to see them to.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I read somewhere that the lead devs don't like Terror From The Deep. I wouldn't mind seeing that, because I think it's an interesting concept, but eh. Even though there's a sequel hook built right into x com, I don't really see where it goes from here.

    I've thinking about it more since I mentioned Cydonia

    and I think it could be interesting if the focus went to defending the entire solar system

    since humanity has advanced technology and all that, it would make a whole lot of narrative sense

    that plot hook could be used to make a whole new tech tree

    plus there could be more player options at the beginning of the game

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    sorta wish Bioware wasn't published by EA

    because I'm suddenly craving XCOM character options in ME3's multiplayer
    New enemy types: EXALT and Invaders

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Humanity can't manufacture Elirium, or alien alloys. Once their supply is done, no more plasma rifles

  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Humanity can't manufacture Elirium, or alien alloys. Once their supply is done, no more plasma rifles

    totally forgot about that

    I'm a bit manic atm, so my mind's sorta going wild with this stuff

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I really like the plot behind Terror From The Deep, because it deals with the idea that all this tech just runs out, and then we're faced with an enemy that the tech wouldn't work against anyway. You could work a ton of interesting resource scarcity plot into the game, where humanity sees this new threat as more of a new source of elirium than anything else, and is over confident due to previous successes. Needless to say, shit gets real.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited January 2014
    actually, one of the things you can build is an elerium generator

    though i'd be surprised if we got too far from earth, solomon doesnt like terror from the deep because youre underwater and he feels xcom is about the contrast of the alien in familiar earth locales

    we dont have too many underwater facilities where we can live, sadly

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Antimatter wrote: »
    actually, one of the things you can build is an elerium generator

    It's a generator that works on Elirium, not a machine that generates Elirium.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    that is a very misleading name and i would have sworn on my grandfather's grave it produced it

    that seems foolish

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Diesel generator don't generate diesel

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    I looked at the project notes for the technology

    the titan armor makes specific mention about the scarcity of the element as well

    any full XCOM expansions may have the soldiers start with laser weapons

    and let's not forget that Meld is also a limited resource

    so mecs and gene mods would be scarce given a timeframe

    the background info for XCOM has been well thought out, props to the devs that made it

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Xcom fluff definitely seems like sci-fi made with lots of love by huge nerds, I love to death interviews like the one Anti posted where a dev talks about design philosophy for MEC troopers

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Antimatter wrote: »
    that is a very misleading name and i would have sworn on my grandfather's grave it produced it

    that seems foolish

    That's the standard terminology for power generators. Wind generator, coal generator, solar generator etc...

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